~ Guess The Variety ~ GTV Exercise

Aspie_Rocco

For the variety enthusiasts: Guess the Variety Exercise
This thread is a Shameless clone of the GTG @Torey thread https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1111340/guess-the-grade-roulette#latest

Rules

• The first person to correctly guess the variety posts the next GTV
• It should be a variety that can be figured out with online references (no obscure hard copy only sources) preferably through coinfacts, variety vista, or similar variety websites. It does not have to recognized by major grading companies, but it must be a discernible variety with online references somewhere.
• One guess per person per day. (You can still interact, respond, or talk about the coin after guessing)
• If the correct variety has not been guessed in 24 hrs, reveal the variety and post another in its place.
• Any US Coin or Pattern.
• Try to use clear images.
• Block out variety, coin number, and certification number. Free tool here if needed - https://redacted.app/
• Can be either raw or graded.
• You do not have to own the coin.
• If the variety-guessing winner does not post a new GTV in 24 hours, anyone can post the next GTV.
• If the variety-guessing winner does not want to post the next GTV he/she should specify that anyone can post the next GTV
• Notify the correct winner/guesser by tagging them (@ winner's name) in the variety reveal.
• Be nice, have fun, and no guess shaming!

References (please share any digital references not listed)
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts
http://varietyvista.com/
https://doubleddie.com/
https://vamworld.com/wiki/Home
http://www.franklinlover.yolasite.com/
Quick term reference
FS-10# is for DDO doubled die obverse
FS-80# is for DDR doubled die reverse
FS-40# is for added/ different obverse details
FS-90# is for added/ different reverse details

Aspie_Rocco

Edited to add variety
Doubled die reverse fs 803
DDR 003
http://varietyvista.com/03 Buffalo Nickels/1935PDDR003.htm

johnhenry9009

I'll say FS-803
and do the varieties need to be ones recognized by PCGS, NGC etc.?

FlyingAl

I also agree with FS-803.

Aspie_Rocco

Both correct, great eye guys!
@johnhenry9009 was first m, you are up

@johnhenry9009 said:
I'll say FS-803
and do the varieties need to be ones recognized by PCGS, NGC etc.?

@FlyingAl said:
I also agree with FS-803.

They can be minor varieties and do not have to be recognized by PCGS or other services, as long as they can be found online somewhere.

johnhenry9009

Thanks @Aspie_Rocco and I hope my photos are good enough for this 😅

Rc5280

1878 8TF

pcgsregistrycollector

1878 8/7 TF Weak? IDK
I would say 1878 8TF but @Rc5280 already said that

hummingbird_coins

Whenever someone lists a FS number, can they also describe the variety? I think this would help people like me who are not familiar with most varieties.

johnhenry9009

@Rc5280 said:
1878 8TF

it is a 8TF but that would be a little vague so I'm looking for the VAM#

Aspie_Rocco

@johnhenry9009 said:

@Rc5280 said:
1878 8TF

it is a 8TF but that would be a little vague so I'm looking for the VAM#

I am not familiar with VAMs but I checked the top 100 and top 50 and saw nothing recognizable from your pics. If no one gets it, Can you get a closer pic of the diagnostic area or side?

Edit, oh, I learned how to better navigate the vamworld directly (by date)

pcgsregistrycollector

@johnhenry9009 said:

@Rc5280 said:
1878 8TF

it is a 8TF but that would be a little vague so I'm looking for the VAM#

VAM 14.2

johnhenry9009

Here's the first hint but I should have posted a few close up to start with do to the amount of VAMs so I do apologize.

Edit to add the second hint and it is a top-100

pcgsregistrycollector

VAM 14.1?

FlyingAl

VAM 14.10 was the best match I could find, but the pictures are impossible to find a match with.

Perhaps we should only do FS varieties and top 100 VAMs?

pcgsregistrycollector

@FlyingAl said:
VAM 14.10 was the best match I could find, but the pictures are impossible to find a match with.

Perhaps we should only do FS varieties and top 100 VAMs?

Agreed here. That would make it easier.

Rc5280

VAM-23 8TF

Aspie_Rocco

VAM 23 8TF.
That was a tough attribution challenge! I like that it was not super easy, the extra pics definitely helped!
Edit to add source https://vamworld.com/wiki/1878-P_VAM-23

Rc5280

@Aspie_Rocco wins because I edited mine(I changed it)

johnhenry9009

Great one @Aspie_Rocco you're up

Aspie_Rocco

FlyingAl

1872 H10c DDO FS-101.

Aspie_Rocco

Correct doubled die obverse FS101
You are up.

@FlyingAl said:
1872 H10c DDO FS-101.

FlyingAl

Aspie_Rocco

Wddr 001 FS-801 doubled die reverse. All the way at the bottom of the following link
https://doubleddie.com/1569929.html

Looks like the dime section on variety vista is down, along with several other denominations (or it is the recent iPhone glitch again)

FlyingAl

@Aspie_Rocco said:
Wddr 001 FS-801 doubled die reverse. All the way at the bottom of the following link
https://doubleddie.com/1569929.html

Looks like the dime section on variety vista is down, along with several other denominations (or it is the recent iPhone glitch again)

Correct!

Aspie_Rocco

4Redisin

I'm wrong. LOL

Aspie_Rocco

pcgsregistrycollector

DDR FS-803

Aspie_Rocco

Knope

pcgsregistrycollector

@Aspie_Rocco said:
Knope

Aw I wish it was a kyup

pcgsregistrycollector

FS-101 DDO?

FlyingAl

Peg Leg R FS-401.

Aspie_Rocco

Correct, you are up! That was the Peg Leg FS401 over polished die, the R in Liberty is the pick up point for this variety.

@FlyingAl said:
Peg Leg R FS-401.

Close up of R

FlyingAl

Aspie_Rocco

Nice one, I had forgotten this variety existed.
DDR 004 FS 801 doubled die reverse
http://varietyvista.com/11 Franklin Halves/DDR Detail Pages/1957PDDR004.htm

WaterSport

Triple Die Reverse - FS-50-1957-801

WS

FlyingAl

@Aspie_Rocco said:
Nice one, I had forgotten this variety existed.
DDR 004 FS 801 doubled die reverse
http://varietyvista.com/11 Franklin Halves/DDR Detail Pages/1957PDDR004.htm

Correct! I need to get this one reholdered to have the variety showing on the label.

Aspie_Rocco

Aspie_Rocco

@WaterSport said:
Triple Die Reverse - FS-50-1957-801

WS

I agree with the tripled die assessment. I was just re-examining the VV photos and wondering why it is not labeled as a TDR.

TrickleCharge

FS-901 Large Letter Low Leaves

Aspie_Rocco

Correct, good job, you are up

@TrickleCharge said:
FS-901 Large Letter Low Leaves

pcgsregistrycollector

@TrickleCharge said:
FS-901 Large Letter Low Leaves

Same here.

TrickleCharge

pcgsregistrycollector

1864 LG Motto

TrickleCharge

@pcgsregistrycollector said:
1864 LG Motto

On the right track, but there is more going on than just the motto variation.

Aspie_Rocco

Cool variety, I did not know about this one. FS1901 die clash with Indian head cent.
Do you know of a super imposed image of the two coins to highlight the diagnostics?

WaterSport

No one confirmed I am next up - but I think I am ?- so I will post this. HINT: its one of the 73 DDR's and compared to most of them - this one is easy...WS

TrickleCharge

@Aspie_Rocco said:
Cool variety, I did not know about this one. FS1901 die clash with Indian head cent.
Do you know of a super imposed image of the two coins to highlight the diagnostics?

You got it! A mule clashed die that was likely due to some shenanigans at the mint. The clash is more easily seen under angled lighting, but still one of my favorites.

Here is an image that shows the clash comparison from:

https://www.maddieclashes.com/1864-2-cent-piece-reverse-die-clashed-with-indian-head-obverse-die-mudc-2c-1864-01/

Aspie_Rocco

@TrickleCharge FS 1901
I picked that for the reverse die crack diagnostic.

@WaterSport
DDR 021 I think, for the slant on the E of united
http://varietyvista.com/01a LC Doubled Dies Vol 1/1909PDDR021.htm