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Latin American series: How long did it take you to complete a date series run?
Early_Milled_Latin_America
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All 1 reales in my case.
So far I have completed the Bolivia 1767-1770 date series. Took me a few months but still need to replace one coin that is holed. As far as Peru 1752-1772 I am at 95% missing just one coin. If I had purchased that missing coin altogether it would have taken me 18 months. But since I did not purchase the coin this could grad on for a long while.
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As far as Guatemala 1 reales 1754-1771 I am not even sure it is doable. Based on what a long term collector who specializes in Guatemala of 40+ years has told me about certain dates and how many he has seen over those years.
But I will continue trying.
Interesting question. Completing a date series run of any Latin America series can be tough and time consuming. Although not intentional, after checking the numbers, I have completed a date series run of Mexico 8 Reales. Probably, one of the easier series from an availability point, still a large number of coins. For me collecting Latin America started with simply picking nice dollar size coins and then moved to chasing better dates and harder to find for the grade examples.
What date series were you able to complete?
Cap and Rays 8 Reales 1823-1897
I like this approach, I skip the common dates and ordinary stuff, I'd rather catch a single extraordinary rarity than a set. I mean when do you stop your set? top coins, varieties, die states, etc, you end up chained to Barber dimes forever or some other Dantesque purgatory
I sold my date set of Guatemalan pillars and focused on type. Prices rose to the point where my original thesis (highly undervalued) became null as prices rose dramatically. When I sold I was very pleased with the returns especially for the best coins which I had paid the most for. I have and will likely never sell the two best 8Rs which a core parts of my collection.
Latin American Collection
I have ever only collected one series: The Condor Breaking Chains 1 Real denomination issued from 1838 to 1850.
It took me 4 years to complete this series.
The 1 Real series is way more difficult than the 1/2 Real, the 2 Reales, or the 8 Reales (with exception of 8 reales 1840).
The stoppers are 1 Real 1838, 1841, and 1848. I added the 1841 a couple of months ago and with that, the series was complete.
An 1851 1 real also exists but I consider this a pattern.
Otherwise, I don't collect series.
From the Mexico mint? If so that is impressive!!!
The set includes all mexico mints, except Catorce. The challenge with Cap and Rays is there are so many set stoppers. Fun to collect, you have to be ok with not completing sets.
I would love to see that collection. How long have you been collecting them? How many coins are there in the entire Cap & Ray 8 reales....I thought thousands (with the varieties)?
I own all 16 Bolivia pillars for the 1/2R to the 4R, but I don't consider this "complete". The quality variance is so wide with some of these 16 coins, I don't consider all part of my set.
Now that FedEx apparently lost my last TPG submission, none currently for Peru under any definition and I don't expect too either.
Sorry to hear that WCC. What coins were lost?
1766 Peru 1R NGC F-12
1769 Peru 1R NGC VF-30
1768 Peru 2R NGC XF-45
The worst is the 2R. This is the second time in four submissions this happened. The last time in 2021 but that packaged eventually showed up.
I'll have to wait and see what happens this time.
I am truly sorry WCC those are some very rare dates in high grades. Hopefully all turns out OK. I will keep an eye out in my daily searches.
I thought about having some of my coins graded but just cannot take the risk of something like this happening. They will stay in Mylar's.
FeDex should be able to trace the package down....no?
That’s not cool, not cool at all. Those are all wonderful coins, all of which I would be honored to own…I even tried to own at least ones of them🥴
I’ve never had a problem with PCGS
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If those coins made their way to my house, I wouldn’t be upset 😬
I’m just kidding, I’d give them back.
Every example of the dates you listed that I have is a garbage coin. What you have there are true winners.
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The last time it was USPS but with registered mail, I eventually got the package, about a year later.
FedEX? I have no idea, don't even know why they sent it FedEx. I must have forgotten to select an option (if that's even possible in the on-line form) and they used it by default.
No, it's not NGC's fault, but I'm still fed-up. I submitted the coins in person at this year's ANA convention to reduce this possibility.
Usually insurance is good enough, but this is the last time I'm ever submitting this type of coin unless I can pick it up myself after grading. Aside from the difficulty of finding comparables again, I'd certainly have to pay noticeably more given recent sales of far more common dates.
Out of my entire pillar collection which isn't small, the 1768 2R is probably the coin I'd choose to sell last even though it's not the highest grade or absolute rarest. It has super eye appeal for an XF and is one of the most difficult dates to buy.
FeDex can help you WCC they can track packages down a lot easier than USPS. And much faster. Get in touch with them ASAP. FeDex is top notch they will look into it. Do not wait call them....they will open a case.
I've already done that. They can't find it. NGC has opened a case with them, and same result. I've just filed an insurance claim with NGC.
Sorry WCC this is a first for me seen an issue with FeDex that they cannot resolve. Those 3 coins are not going to go unnoticed they are just to important (especially the 1766 & 1768...the 1769 is the highest graded I have ever heard about so it will draw attention as well) and will draw attention. To many people need those dates and in high grades they will alert most of us here. Hopefully some thief post them and you get justice in the end.
WCC do you have images of the coins you could share with us all here?
I can start another thread. Already hijacked this one unintentionally.
Probably best to do that. Everyone will see it that way.
Yeah, I know, and I agree. That 1768 is killer, I was really sad to lose it, but at least it was to you…now you don’t even have it! 😢
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Sorry I thought the 1768 was a 1 real. My mistake it is a 2 reales you owned. WCC create that topic put some images so we all know what to look out for if they do hit the market. I cannot imagine a thief wanting to keep these coins would just make no sens.
I haven't... add that to the list of my numismatic failures.
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