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SUCCESS!! ebay Counterfeit - 2021 1 ounce Gold Eagle - TANGO Down - #5 of 5

MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited April 28, 2025 10:39AM in U.S. Coin Forum

https://www.ebay.com/itm/356819305761


https://www.ebay.com/fdbk/feedback_profile/thoreyn_6881

seller thoreyn_6881 may have bought this on ebay thinking he got a "deal"

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  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He knows full well it's bogus. Eight feedbacks, all as a buyer. Clear scam......

  • TxCollectorTxCollector Posts: 457 ✭✭✭✭

    I’m absolutely shocked at eBay’s findings 🙄.

    “We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy. This determination was made using automation or artificial intelligence.”

  • zippcityzippcity Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭✭

    reported

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,457 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TxCollector said:
    I’m absolutely shocked at eBay’s findings 🙄.

    “We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy. This determination was made using automation or artificial intelligence.”

    I received the same reply to my report but am not the least bit surprised. Recently, that’s been what occurs a very high percentage of the time, even for laughable counterfeits like this one. However, sometimes the listings still get removed later.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • TxCollectorTxCollector Posts: 457 ✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @TxCollector said:
    I’m absolutely shocked at eBay’s findings 🙄.

    “We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy. This determination was made using automation or artificial intelligence.”

    I received the same reply to my report but am not the least bit surprised. Recently, that’s been what occurs a very high percentage of the time, even for laughable counterfeits like this one. However, sometimes the listings still get removed later.

    Actually, I wasn’t surprised at all but I guess that I failed to adequately convey my sarcasm. At this point I can’t even remember the last time I’ve received a response from eBay that hasn’t said that the listing wasn’t in violation.

    I only report these days hoping that if they receive enough other reports that maybe they’ll do something.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,457 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TxCollector said:

    @MFeld said:

    @TxCollector said:
    I’m absolutely shocked at eBay’s findings 🙄.

    “We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy. This determination was made using automation or artificial intelligence.”

    I received the same reply to my report but am not the least bit surprised. Recently, that’s been what occurs a very high percentage of the time, even for laughable counterfeits like this one. However, sometimes the listings still get removed later.

    Actually, I wasn’t surprised at all but I guess that I failed to adequately convey my sarcasm. At this point I can’t even remember the last time I’ve received a response from eBay that hasn’t said that the listing wasn’t in violation.

    I only report these days hoping that if they receive enough other reports that maybe they’ll do something.

    I considered rhe possibility that you were being sarcastic but wasn’t sure, so posted as if your reply was serious.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,637 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 27, 2025 7:18AM

    @TxCollector said:
    I’m absolutely shocked at eBay’s findings 🙄.

    “We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy. This determination was made using automation or artificial intelligence.”

    This seems to be the new eBay boilerplate. It's amazing that they care so little for their brand name. I received the same response when I reported an obvious counterfeit to them. This thing is beyond the definition of a COUNTEREIT. It's a **SCREEMING COUNTERFEIT. **

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • TxCollectorTxCollector Posts: 457 ✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @TxCollector said:

    @MFeld said:

    @TxCollector said:
    I’m absolutely shocked at eBay’s findings 🙄.

    “We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy. This determination was made using automation or artificial intelligence.”

    I received the same reply to my report but am not the least bit surprised. Recently, that’s been what occurs a very high percentage of the time, even for laughable counterfeits like this one. However, sometimes the listings still get removed later.

    Actually, I wasn’t surprised at all but I guess that I failed to adequately convey my sarcasm. At this point I can’t even remember the last time I’ve received a response from eBay that hasn’t said that the listing wasn’t in violation.

    I only report these days hoping that if they receive enough other reports that maybe they’ll do something.

    I considered rhe possibility that you were being sarcastic but wasn’t sure, so posted as if your reply was serious.

    No worries, tone can be difficult to communicate at times through brief exchanges like this.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,675 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm guessing there's a magic number of complaints before eBay removes a counterfeit. One or two complaints are ignored while 10 or 12 complaints results in the counterfeit being removed. I don't know what this magic number is and it might change depending on the value of the item being sold.

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  • zippcityzippcity Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭✭

    I received the same canned response. So I reported it two more times.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,766 ✭✭✭✭✭

    yeah, they send those canned responses, but eventually they can get brought down

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 27, 2025 5:17PM

    @thebeav said:
    He knows full well it's bogus. Eight feedbacks, all as a buyer. Clear scam......

    Member since: Apr-22-24 in United States

    probably had this for months

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,766 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Report!

    24 hours left!

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  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,813 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Reported
    -Currently at $3250.00 with 9 bidders and 35 bids!

    image
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,766 ✭✭✭✭✭

    little under 12 hours left!

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,637 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 28, 2025 7:57AM

    @rec78 said:
    Reported
    -Currently at $3250.00 with 9 bidders and 35 bids!

    This shows how poorly informed (I want say dumb) some bullion buyers are. This thing doesn’t even look “golden enough.”

    Here's a reminder for those who might need a refresher course.


    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • zippcityzippcity Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/356819305761


    https://www.ebay.com/fdbk/feedback_profile/thoreyn_6881

    seller thoreyn_6881 may have bought this on ebay thinking he got a "deal"

    seems they are no longer a registered user

    Save our Country. Positive BST: Collectorcoins- Mariner020648- profharoldhill- coppertoning- agentjim007- cucamongacoin- ElKevo- mercurydimeguy- Utahcoin-AJAAN-AUandAG- surfinxhi- ZoidMeister- TwoSides2acoin- JimTyler-
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,766 ✭✭✭✭✭

    .

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,457 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s good to see that eBay finally took action.
    It’s bad that they seem to do so in such few instances. And that they frequently first message those of us who make reports that the listing isn’t in violation of their policy.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I received the same canned response as everyone else when I reported it. Glad to see it did get taken down today. :-)

  • giantsfan20giantsfan20 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭✭

    Interesting this one got the full EBAY action a account deletion and listing..The seller had 8 feedbacks so something was up with seller. :) for EBAY to do so.

  • BikingnutBikingnut Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭✭

    Was it from China?

    US Navy CWO3 retired. 12/81-09/04

    Looking for PCGS AU58 Washington's, 32-63.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,766 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ebay shows the seller was in the usa

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  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,320 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Copy, over..

  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    ebay shows the seller was in the usa

    I know this can be worked around. So far I have only seen it in other categories of items, such as appliances and the like, but who knows, Chinese sellers might be expanding into offering "USA shipping" for counterfeits too.

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