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LOL Ebay said this listing is NOT in violation of any of its policies

pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,357 ✭✭✭✭
edited April 24, 2025 6:03AM in U.S. Coin Forum


I reported it as a counterfeit and got this:

What happened:
We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy. This determination was made using automation or artificial intelligence.

You heard it here... nowhere in ebay policy does it state you have to sell authentic coins, and it also doesn't state that if you put PCGS, it must be in a PCGS slab with pictures of the front and back.

Hey, at least it's PQ!

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  • I recently reported a scam listing (not coin-related) that was offering to sell a one-of-a-kind artifact that is in the Smithsonian. I included a link to the relevant Smithsonian page, and a link to the site from which the listing photographs were stolen. I got the same reply you got, except that it said the determination was made by a customer service representative, not AI.

    The same seller listed a dozen other rarities with stolen photos. Lots of people reported them with the same eBay response. I can only guess eBay considers it financially better to pay off occasional buyers through their protection program than to risk offending scammers by pulling obvious fake sales.

  • TxCollectorTxCollector Posts: 467 ✭✭✭✭

    It’s no longer listed from what I can tell

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,856 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pcgs69 said:

    I reported it as a counterfeit and got this:

    What happened:
    We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy. This determination was made using automation or artificial intelligence.

    You heard it here... nowhere in ebay policy does it state you have to sell authentic coins, and it also doesn't state that if you put PCGS, it must be in a PCGS slab with pictures of the front and back.

    Hey, at least it's PQ!

    There have been a number of occasions in which I've received that reply from eBay, but the listing was subsequently removed.

    Their reporting system, including replies and failure to remove many blatant counterfeits has become a very bad joke.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,970 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I started back on Ebay 23 yrs ago. It's really sad how ebay has deteriorated over the years. Their platform has become nothing more than a greedy format for thieves and cons. The good sellers are slowly getting eaten up by the bad ones and the innocent buyers are forced to spend more time researching what they want to purchase. Jmo

  • 1madman1madman Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This joker lists this fake coin a few days ago, I got NGC involved, and finally the original auction got yanked. Then the seller immediately just relists the same fake coin again. eBay says everything is a-ok.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/116571603194

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,689 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AI says it is OK. AI is never wrong. ;)

    All glory is fleeting.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,796 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 24, 2025 1:04PM

    I had the same thing happen to me when I reported an almost equally bad 1794 Dollar to them.

    Some people say that their replies are made by "AI" If that's their "AI" it's pretty darn stupid.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,046 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AI = Automated Idiocy (usually)

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah... it's been my experience that if you need an answer fast and you don't care if it's right or wrong... AI!

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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,411 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pcgs69 said:

    I reported it as a counterfeit and got this:

    What happened:
    We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy. This determination was made using automation or artificial intelligence.

    You heard it here... nowhere in ebay policy does it state you have to sell authentic coins, and it also doesn't state that if you put PCGS, it must be in a PCGS slab with pictures of the front and back.

    Hey, at least it's PQ!

    Has anyone told ebay their AI algorithm sucks.

    Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,848 ✭✭✭✭✭

    lots of people not reading the ebay threads

    this is a massively common result of reporting

    it discourages further reporting

    however, if a large group of people report it will eventually be taken down

    ==

    look for "ebay" and "counterfeit" in the thread title and report the listing in it, too. the more of us doing it will have them eventually taken down! do not give up!

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,029 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No one with money is going to touch anything of substantial value without clear verifications.

  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pretty clear...

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,848 ✭✭✭✭✭

    and providing them with such evidence is useless too

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    and providing them with such evidence is useless too

    I still tried...

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,848 ✭✭✭✭✭

    me too. that's how i know :(

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 25, 2025 6:18AM

    eBay returned an AOK verdict on the listing, but I messaged the seller, and he ended it himself. NGC had noted the issue on the cert.

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