I must commend the OP, as we are about to celebrate the first year anniversary of this post, I've noticed a significant increase in potential gains currently as the card market is just loaded with great opportunities. It's as a good time as any to flip and it feels like the good ol' days, if only for a little awhile. I've experienced success unlike anything I've seen in many years. The market is hyperactive, but there's so much available, it just takes some extra hard labor and time to find and land some tasty fish. Definitely some excitement brewing right now. Cheers.
Thanks El MAGO -- It could be even better this year. When you look at prices for the new cards and then you see a 1972 Willie Mays opc PSA 8 for $550, you go wow, these vintage cards are so low. I picked up a nearly perfectly centered Brett rookie sgc 6.5 for $275, it seems so cheap when comparing to 2025 and 2026 cards. Got a perfectly centered 1969 mantle for SGC 5 for $500, felt cheap.
But big things are defintely happening and should be strong for 2026, maybe better than 2025.
I posted this about 13 months ago, and what a year we have had. Card values have soared. Look for another great year this year too. The Stocks are soaring and prices won't stop. If you are a Nolan Ryan fan, values have doubled on many of his cards. Some more than that.
Vintage has a ways to go to catch the newer stuff, but the investors are buying EBAY dry. Hard to find centered issues of 6's and up. and 9's and 10's from 1975 and back are either priced of the charts or rarely presented.
As always buy OPC if you can. Look forward to another spectacular year.
If your going to gloat and brag then so will I. I made 27% in Small Cap fund investments in past 12 months. Unlike cards i can have that cash instantly directed to my bank account with less than 4 mouse clicks. Not to mention fees that are not an absurd 10-25% but rather than a mere handful of singles
Until one can can receive up to minute FMV and the money instantly with Trading Cards I won't consider them an investment nor an alternative investment. Those who do fine but I wont.
P.S. At least for me Cap Gains is a boatload less than my Marginal rate which is what Id pay on trading cards. BTW I report all my income, Im not a law breaker.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972) Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)
Tale of two economies. People lower income brackets are really struggling with inflation. Consumer sentiment dismal, gdp growth and job prints sluggish.
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Tale of two economies. People lower income brackets are really struggling with inflation. Consumer sentiment dismal, gdp growth and job prints sluggish.
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I can't afford to purchase anything for my PC anymore. Have mostly switched to trying to sell some cards. Problem is, people aren't spending much on my mid range cards.
Main economic reason; our property taxes (Minnesota) went up over $1,000.00 this year. We live in the country on a dirt road and have our own well and septic system, so even with fewer State and locally provided services, we're getting punished for the States insane spending.
I am retired on a fixed income and much more able to deal with inflation than this insane State's policy of spending tax dollars like it's "going out of style" and then just raising taxes and doing it all over again.
Our very small one bedroom house is paid for, yet our property taxes have now become a house payment!
When my wife retires, I might have to sell my entire collection and give the money to the elected people who are supposed to be working for me!
2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
Folks veering into politics is best way to get this thread shut down. Hmm come to think of it for this shameless pumping thread I'd be OK with that, so Politic away! (it called a joke)
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972) Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)
@1982FBWaxMemories said:
If your going to gloat and brag then so will I. I made 27% in Small Cap fund investments in past 12 months. Unlike cards i can have that cash instantly directed to my bank account with less than 4 mouse clicks. Not to mention fees that are not an absurd 10-25% but rather than a mere handful of singles
Until one can can receive up to minute FMV and the money instantly with Trading Cards I won't consider them an investment nor an alternative investment. Those who do fine but I wont.
P.S. At least for me Cap Gains is a boatload less than my Marginal rate which is what Id pay on trading cards. BTW I report all my income, Im not a law breaker.
@1982FBWaxMemories said:
If your going to gloat and brag then so will I. I made 27% in Small Cap fund investments in past 12 months. Unlike cards i can have that cash instantly directed to my bank account with less than 4 mouse clicks. Not to mention fees that are not an absurd 10-25% but rather than a mere handful of singles
Until one can can receive up to minute FMV and the money instantly with Trading Cards I won't consider them an investment nor an alternative investment. Those who do fine but I wont.
P.S. At least for me Cap Gains is a boatload less than my Marginal rate which is what Id pay on trading cards. BTW I report all my income, Im not a law breaker.
can't one have both? diversification bruh,,
I will not "invest" in anything for which I'm taxed at marginal rate, not to mention having to give up an additional 10-25% just to sell.
Collecting trading cards as hobby is fine, but as an investment what a laugh as for me at least the math simply doe$ not work all that well
P.S. I'm not happy more and more long time tried and true vintage collectors are being priced out of the hobby. Its NOT something one should revel in!
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972) Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)
Minnesota is the 16th highest in the nation with regard to rural property taxes, but for Minnesota homeowners property taxes in our state have been increasing year over year so it's been multiple bites which likely reinforces the sting. The good news is that there are still 15 places you might complain about more. The value we get from our taxation is something I find discrepancy in. When you look at funding vs. performance numbers in Minnesota we rank 19th in the nation so there is certainly work to be done. If you look merely at tax performance and ignore social benefits those taxes provide Minnesota ranks poorly at 44th. Neither of these numbers tell the whole story, but from a fiscal perspective, Minnesota is well-situated with a 15Bln+ surplus. Hopefully Minnesotans can get back to focusing on what matters.
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Minnesota is the 16th highest in the nation with regard to rural property taxes, but for Minnesota homeowners property taxes in our state have been increasing year over year so it's been multiple bites which likely reinforces the sting. ** The good news is that there are still 15 places you might complain about more**.
I've lived or worked in 4 of them...
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972) Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)
@bgr said:
Minnesota is the 16th highest in the nation with regard to rural property taxes, but for Minnesota homeowners property taxes in our state have been increasing year over year so it's been multiple bites which likely reinforces the sting. The good news is that there are still 15 places you might complain about more. The value we get from our taxation is something I find discrepancy in. When you look at funding vs. performance numbers in Minnesota we rank 19th in the nation so there is certainly work to be done. If you look merely at tax performance and ignore social benefits those taxes provide Minnesota ranks poorly at 44th. Neither of these numbers tell the whole story, but from a fiscal perspective, Minnesota is well-situated with a 15Bln+ surplus. Hopefully Minnesotans can get back to focusing on what matters.
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Not sure how your numbers are compiled, but we just got our statement a couple days ago. Went from $1,500.00 to $2,500.00. :'(
I'm guessing the numbers might be worse after this years debacle?
The numbers I have been hearing over and over again are that we had an $18 Billion surplus three years ago and last year it was a $10 Billion deficit, prompting this years HUGE property tax hike that Governor Walz placed a high percentage of the burden on out state Mn. Probably because the Twin Cities have no money any more, ($9 Billion lost in fraud?) OR maybe because we "out staters" voted Republican?
Property taxes on your primary residence should end once you pay off your house. Especially for those of us who have paid our share (and then some) for 40 years and are on a fixed income.
At 68, I really don't want to have to go back to work to pay my taxes.
2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
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Tale of two economies. People lower income brackets are really struggling with inflation. Consumer sentiment dismal, gdp growth and job prints sluggish.
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I can't afford to purchase anything for my PC anymore. Have mostly switched to trying to sell some cards. Problem is, people aren't spending much on my mid range cards.
Main economic reason; our property taxes (Minnesota) went up over $1,000.00 this year. We live in the country on a dirt road and have our own well and septic system, so even with fewer State and locally provided services, we're getting punished for the States insane spending.
I am retired on a fixed income and much more able to deal with inflation than this insane State's policy of spending tax dollars like it's "going out of style" and then just raising taxes and doing it all over again.
Our very small one bedroom house is paid for, yet our property taxes have now become a house payment!
When my wife retires, I might have to sell my entire collection and give the money to the elected people who are supposed to be working for me!
I assume that you already are receiving the Homestead credit refund. Have you considered the senior tax deferral program?
My Property tax is 16K per year! I do utilize sewage services and my streets are paved but my home is a mere 950SQ Ft. My town is decent but it's merely middle/middle and low/middle Class. BTW I live in a current RED state. I do have sympathy for JoeBanzai due to the % increase but his overall amount I would do most anything to have a burden that was only 2500. (simple perspective)
This is partly why I don't '"invest" in cards. When I need to direct funds for unexpected event or expense I need to be able to do that posthaste. In fact I did so late last week . With 4 mouse clicks I was able to sell some stocks to cover my Income taxes. Until that is possible with Baseball cards then as I've mentioned to me they are not an investment!
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972) Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)
Mine went from $20,238.20 in 2025 to $21,726.84 In 2026. I guess at some point it's just a big annoying number.
Joe - There was a one-time investment of $9Bln in state programs in 2023 and there was a surplus of $2.5Bln in 2025 with projected $3.7Bln surplus for 2026 with $3.4Bln in the state reserve fund. The fear is the inflection of spending vs. revenue which is projected for 2028 (deficit $3Bln+ for MN). There are things that can make that worse or better and I don't pretend to know where exactly it will end up when it arrives in reality. The data I collated is estimates from economic and tax data and ranking information for US States. There was not actually $9Bln in fraud, but that has been a headline used politically to confuse people.
There was a large surplus in 2023... almost $18Bln. $9Bln of that was used to fund State programs... business development would be the positive spin and social welfare/handouts could be the negative spin. What was it spent on? Where is the money now? The information mostly comes from the MMB (Minnesota Management and Budget) office. Only $3.5Bln to education... I say ship it all...
@1982FBWaxMemories said:
My Property tax is 16K per year! I do utilize sewage services and my streets are paved but my home is a mere 950SQ Ft. My town is decent but it's merely middle/middle and low/middle Class. BTW I live in a current RED state. I do have sympathy for JoeBanzai due to the % increase but his overall amount I would do most anything to have a burden that was only 2500. (simple perspective)
This is partly why I don't '"invest" in cards. When I need to direct funds for unexpected event or expense I need to be able to do that posthaste. In fact I did so late last week . With 4 mouse clicks I was able to sell some stocks to cover my Income taxes. Until that is possible with Baseball cards then as I've mentioned to me they are not an investment!
16K property tax where I live would be about a 12,000 sq foot house with a 4 door garage. at a minimum. 7 or 8 bedrooms, 6 or more bathrooms.
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Tale of two economies. People lower income brackets are really struggling with inflation. Consumer sentiment dismal, gdp growth and job prints sluggish.
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I can't afford to purchase anything for my PC anymore. Have mostly switched to trying to sell some cards. Problem is, people aren't spending much on my mid range cards.
Main economic reason; our property taxes (Minnesota) went up over $1,000.00 this year. We live in the country on a dirt road and have our own well and septic system, so even with fewer State and locally provided services, we're getting punished for the States insane spending.
I am retired on a fixed income and much more able to deal with inflation than this insane State's policy of spending tax dollars like it's "going out of style" and then just raising taxes and doing it all over again.
Our very small one bedroom house is paid for, yet our property taxes have now become a house payment!
When my wife retires, I might have to sell my entire collection and give the money to the elected people who are supposed to be working for me!
I assume that you already are receiving the Homestead credit refund. Have you considered the senior tax deferral program?
My wife isn't old enough, but when she is, I'm going to look into it closer.
It's still B.S. though. The State is basically stealing our money by telling us how much our homes are worth and then taxing us for owning property. The deferral program is just a way to take your money down the road, or take your property from you at a later date.
Tax dollars are OUR money. The Government spends them like there's some sort of competition going on.
2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
@bgr said:
Mine went from $20,238.20 in 2025 to $21,726.84 In 2026. I guess at some point it's just a big annoying number.
Joe - There was a one-time investment of $9Bln in state programs in 2023 and there was a surplus of $2.5Bln in 2025 with projected $3.7Bln surplus for 2026 with $3.4Bln in the state reserve fund. The fear is the inflection of spending vs. revenue which is projected for 2028 (deficit $3Bln+ for MN). There are things that can make that worse or better and I don't pretend to know where exactly it will end up when it arrives in reality. The data I collated is estimates from economic and tax data and ranking information for US States. There was not actually $9Bln in fraud, but that has been a headline used politically to confuse people.
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So when the POS Governor Walz was being grilled by the US Senate and they asked him about the $9 Billion in fraud, that was a lie? I'm NOT trying to start an argument, I assumed that if you saw the hearing or interrogation or whatever you want to call it, and that question was asked, it would be based on fact.
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There was a large surplus in 2023... almost $18Bln. $9Bln of that was used to fund State programs... business development would be the positive spin and social welfare/handouts could be the negative spin. What was it spent on? Where is the money now? The information mostly comes from the MMB (Minnesota Management and Budget) office. Only $3.5Bln to education... I say ship it all...
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Seems to me (I took some accounting classes way back in my college days) the taxpayers money should be accounted for. TO THE PENNY, we have computers and everything now. You don't have to stare at a spreadsheet for hours looking for that dime.
Yes, I know, I'm crazy. People tell me that all the time. I guess we should just hand over our cash and hope it's enough, and we can still pay our property taxes or we're homeless?
2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
@1982FBWaxMemories said:
My Property tax is 16K per year! I do utilize sewage services and my streets are paved but my home is a mere 950SQ Ft. My town is decent but it's merely middle/middle and low/middle Class. BTW I live in a current RED state. I do have sympathy for JoeBanzai due to the % increase but his overall amount I would do most anything to have a burden that was only 2500. (simple perspective)
This is partly why I don't '"invest" in cards. When I need to direct funds for unexpected event or expense I need to be able to do that posthaste. In fact I did so late last week . With 4 mouse clicks I was able to sell some stocks to cover my Income taxes. Until that is possible with Baseball cards then as I've mentioned to me they are not an investment!
That's INSANE!
Our house is out in the country. Small (400 sqft) one bedroom old farmhouse. On 5 acres, but 4 of them are flood plain.
Where do you live?
I never had a great paying job, (started working at about 14) but I worked lots of overtime and sometimes a second job. My perspective REALLY CHANGED once I retired. Not a great pension and a divorce (over her spending Ha Ha) cost me a LOT.
It was worth it though.
2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
Joe. I think you’re thinking of the US CBO which is Congress. There were Senate hearings in Feb but those were more show in the Senate and did not involve Walz or any top officials.
The “grilling” was the CBO and they’re also investigating. So far the real tallies are $259.5 million. They’re investigating another $350 million. I think Walz said it best. $1 is too much. Good luck with your taxes. I would recommend against the senior deferral but there are options for refund based on increases if you’re earned income is below some threshold. I would google that. It’s called something like a property tax increase rebate.
The discussion seems to have drifted just a bit outside… and not in a good way like a Dutch Leonard knuckleball.
Let’s take moment to reflect that the excitement brewing is predicated on the wide scope of cards that can be collected with many still at reasonable valuations. It is possible to assemble a reasonable collection that represents the progression MLB from its inception.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
@bgr said:
Joe. I think you’re thinking of the US CBO which is Congress. There were Senate hearings in Feb but those were more show in the Senate and did not involve Walz or any top officials.
The “grilling” was the CBO and they’re also investigating. So far the real tallies are $259.5 million. They’re investigating another $350 million. I think Walz said it best. $1 is too much. Good luck with your taxes. I would recommend against the senior deferral but there are options for refund based on increases if you’re earned income is below some threshold. I would google that. It’s called something like a property tax increase rebate.
Thank you.
2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
this discussion is great and many points well taken..i understand the frustration. but what brought on the "excitement" in many ways is a reflection of the "goings on" currently..and the past year or so..
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And you thought 2025 was explosive..2026 is getting ready to go to the MOON!!! EXCITEMENT IS BREWING!!!
I bought green land.
I want to be buried vertically on Greenland with all my cards in my coffin to peruse while waiting to be beamed up to Heaven...so let's do Greenland!
I must commend the OP, as we are about to celebrate the first year anniversary of this post, I've noticed a significant increase in potential gains currently as the card market is just loaded with great opportunities. It's as a good time as any to flip and it feels like the good ol' days, if only for a little awhile. I've experienced success unlike anything I've seen in many years. The market is hyperactive, but there's so much available, it just takes some extra hard labor and time to find and land some tasty fish. Definitely some excitement brewing right now. Cheers.
Thanks El MAGO -- It could be even better this year. When you look at prices for the new cards and then you see a 1972 Willie Mays opc PSA 8 for $550, you go wow, these vintage cards are so low. I picked up a nearly perfectly centered Brett rookie sgc 6.5 for $275, it seems so cheap when comparing to 2025 and 2026 cards. Got a perfectly centered 1969 mantle for SGC 5 for $500, felt cheap.
But big things are defintely happening and should be strong for 2026, maybe better than 2025.
I posted this about 13 months ago, and what a year we have had. Card values have soared. Look for another great year this year too. The Stocks are soaring and prices won't stop. If you are a Nolan Ryan fan, values have doubled on many of his cards. Some more than that.
Vintage has a ways to go to catch the newer stuff, but the investors are buying EBAY dry. Hard to find centered issues of 6's and up. and 9's and 10's from 1975 and back are either priced of the charts or rarely presented.
As always buy OPC if you can. Look forward to another spectacular year.
If your going to gloat and brag then so will I. I made 27% in Small Cap fund investments in past 12 months. Unlike cards i can have that cash instantly directed to my bank account with less than 4 mouse clicks. Not to mention fees that are not an absurd 10-25% but rather than a mere handful of singles
Until one can can receive up to minute FMV and the money instantly with Trading Cards I won't consider them an investment nor an alternative investment. Those who do fine but I wont.
P.S. At least for me Cap Gains is a boatload less than my Marginal rate which is what Id pay on trading cards. BTW I report all my income, Im not a law breaker.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)
Agree that it has become much more difficult to land quality stuff on eBay. Gotta dig deep to find the nuggets.
Tale of two economies. People lower income brackets are really struggling with inflation. Consumer sentiment dismal, gdp growth and job prints sluggish.
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I can't afford to purchase anything for my PC anymore. Have mostly switched to trying to sell some cards. Problem is, people aren't spending much on my mid range cards.
Main economic reason; our property taxes (Minnesota) went up over $1,000.00 this year. We live in the country on a dirt road and have our own well and septic system, so even with fewer State and locally provided services, we're getting punished for the States insane spending.
I am retired on a fixed income and much more able to deal with inflation than this insane State's policy of spending tax dollars like it's "going out of style" and then just raising taxes and doing it all over again.
Our very small one bedroom house is paid for, yet our property taxes have now become a house payment!
When my wife retires, I might have to sell my entire collection and give the money to the elected people who are supposed to be working for me!
Folks veering into politics is best way to get this thread shut down. Hmm come to think of it for this shameless pumping thread I'd be OK with that, so Politic away! (it called a joke)
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)
Open the Vintage Strait Of Morecardz!! Let's Go!!!
I was at a show today- I was able to buy afew cards including:
Lon Warneke 1940 Play Ball #114 $10.00
Max Carey 1940 Play Ball #178 $20.00
Danny Murtaugh 1949 Bowman rookie $20.00
Obviously I am not going to get rich but it did not break the bank. The best part of this is the MLB History captured in 3 cards.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
can't one have both? diversification bruh,,
I will not "invest" in anything for which I'm taxed at marginal rate, not to mention having to give up an additional 10-25% just to sell.
Collecting trading cards as hobby is fine, but as an investment what a laugh as for me at least the math simply doe$ not work all that well
P.S. I'm not happy more and more long time tried and true vintage collectors are being priced out of the hobby. Its NOT something one should revel in!
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)
Minnesota is the 16th highest in the nation with regard to rural property taxes, but for Minnesota homeowners property taxes in our state have been increasing year over year so it's been multiple bites which likely reinforces the sting. The good news is that there are still 15 places you might complain about more. The value we get from our taxation is something I find discrepancy in. When you look at funding vs. performance numbers in Minnesota we rank 19th in the nation so there is certainly work to be done. If you look merely at tax performance and ignore social benefits those taxes provide Minnesota ranks poorly at 44th. Neither of these numbers tell the whole story, but from a fiscal perspective, Minnesota is well-situated with a 15Bln+ surplus. Hopefully Minnesotans can get back to focusing on what matters.
I've lived or worked in 4 of them...
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)
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Not sure how your numbers are compiled, but we just got our statement a couple days ago. Went from $1,500.00 to $2,500.00. :'(
I'm guessing the numbers might be worse after this years debacle?
The numbers I have been hearing over and over again are that we had an $18 Billion surplus three years ago and last year it was a $10 Billion deficit, prompting this years HUGE property tax hike that Governor Walz placed a high percentage of the burden on out state Mn. Probably because the Twin Cities have no money any more, ($9 Billion lost in fraud?) OR maybe because we "out staters" voted Republican?
Property taxes on your primary residence should end once you pay off your house. Especially for those of us who have paid our share (and then some) for 40 years and are on a fixed income.
At 68, I really don't want to have to go back to work to pay my taxes.
I assume that you already are receiving the Homestead credit refund. Have you considered the senior tax deferral program?
My Property tax is 16K per year! I do utilize sewage services and my streets are paved but my home is a mere 950SQ Ft. My town is decent but it's merely middle/middle and low/middle Class. BTW I live in a current RED state. I do have sympathy for JoeBanzai due to the % increase but his overall amount I would do most anything to have a burden that was only 2500. (simple perspective)
This is partly why I don't '"invest" in cards. When I need to direct funds for unexpected event or expense I need to be able to do that posthaste. In fact I did so late last week . With 4 mouse clicks I was able to sell some stocks to cover my Income taxes. Until that is possible with Baseball cards then as I've mentioned to me they are not an investment!
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)
Mine went from $20,238.20 in 2025 to $21,726.84 In 2026. I guess at some point it's just a big annoying number.
Joe - There was a one-time investment of $9Bln in state programs in 2023 and there was a surplus of $2.5Bln in 2025 with projected $3.7Bln surplus for 2026 with $3.4Bln in the state reserve fund. The fear is the inflection of spending vs. revenue which is projected for 2028 (deficit $3Bln+ for MN). There are things that can make that worse or better and I don't pretend to know where exactly it will end up when it arrives in reality. The data I collated is estimates from economic and tax data and ranking information for US States. There was not actually $9Bln in fraud, but that has been a headline used politically to confuse people.
There was a large surplus in 2023... almost $18Bln. $9Bln of that was used to fund State programs... business development would be the positive spin and social welfare/handouts could be the negative spin. What was it spent on? Where is the money now? The information mostly comes from the MMB (Minnesota Management and Budget) office. Only $3.5Bln to education... I say ship it all...
16K property tax where I live would be about a 12,000 sq foot house with a 4 door garage. at a minimum. 7 or 8 bedrooms, 6 or more bathrooms.
What this thread needs is a long porch, a bunch of rocking chairs, four sleeping basset hounds and a violinist.
BTW my home is on 1/2 acre. Still yep 16k is insane....
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)
My wife isn't old enough, but when she is, I'm going to look into it closer.
It's still B.S. though. The State is basically stealing our money by telling us how much our homes are worth and then taxing us for owning property. The deferral program is just a way to take your money down the road, or take your property from you at a later date.
Tax dollars are OUR money. The Government spends them like there's some sort of competition going on.
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So when the POS Governor Walz was being grilled by the US Senate and they asked him about the $9 Billion in fraud, that was a lie? I'm NOT trying to start an argument, I assumed that if you saw the hearing or interrogation or whatever you want to call it, and that question was asked, it would be based on fact.
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Seems to me (I took some accounting classes way back in my college days) the taxpayers money should be accounted for. TO THE PENNY, we have computers and everything now. You don't have to stare at a spreadsheet for hours looking for that dime.
Yes, I know, I'm crazy. People tell me that all the time. I guess we should just hand over our cash and hope it's enough, and we can still pay our property taxes or we're homeless?
That's INSANE!
Our house is out in the country. Small (400 sqft) one bedroom old farmhouse. On 5 acres, but 4 of them are flood plain.
Where do you live?
I never had a great paying job, (started working at about 14) but I worked lots of overtime and sometimes a second job. My perspective REALLY CHANGED once I retired. Not a great pension and a divorce (over her spending Ha Ha) cost me a LOT.
It was worth it though.
Add ponds, cheese curds. RITZ CRACKERS, Deer Salami, Horse Radish - the ground kind, beer, brandy, whiskey, cigars, swisher sweets, a trail ride on a Polaris Ranger, Turkeys Gobbling, Whippoorwills etc.
Joe. I think you’re thinking of the US CBO which is Congress. There were Senate hearings in Feb but those were more show in the Senate and did not involve Walz or any top officials.
The “grilling” was the CBO and they’re also investigating. So far the real tallies are $259.5 million. They’re investigating another $350 million. I think Walz said it best. $1 is too much. Good luck with your taxes. I would recommend against the senior deferral but there are options for refund based on increases if you’re earned income is below some threshold. I would google that. It’s called something like a property tax increase rebate.
The discussion seems to have drifted just a bit outside… and not in a good way like a Dutch Leonard knuckleball.
Let’s take moment to reflect that the excitement brewing is predicated on the wide scope of cards that can be collected with many still at reasonable valuations. It is possible to assemble a reasonable collection that represents the progression MLB from its inception.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
How do you know that the Minnesota fraud investigation isn’t the Brewmaster of excitement?!
We need to lower our taxes so we can BUY MORE CARDS!
Thank you.
this discussion is great and many points well taken..i understand the frustration. but what brought on the "excitement" in many ways is a reflection of the "goings on" currently..and the past year or so..
^ Excitement for me is not having those like Joe priced out of the hobby
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)