2025 Sacagawea 25th Anniversary 24k Gold Coin
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It looks like we must be getting a 2025 Sacagawea 25th Anniversary 24k Gold Coin, since designs are being approved. Here is the recommended coin designs:
Will there be any privy coins for this coin released?
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They forgot to enhance the tail feathers. They could put lottery cards in the Cheerios boxes for a chance to win a privy version. So many marketing games coming up. The comic book golds are modern classics. LOL
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25th Anniversary of a coin that does not circulate (in the US, anyway). How about eliminating the paper dollar along with the cent so they DO circulate?
I shall forward this to Tom Rogers.
I agree. Let's take it one step further and eliminate 2 and 5 dollar bills while minting 2 and 5 dollar coins. Use designs that are fresh with no dead presidents on them.
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The mint tried to do a gold coin before and now it is finally being realized. I am fine with that. But I cannot find anything online
This one? They're allegedly at Fort Knox. http://www.smalldollars.com/dollar/page20b.html
We already have this as a dollar coin, no need for yet another non-circulating coin that most cannot afford. It sounds like more fiction.
If the U.S. mint is selling it, the coin will be vastly overpriced. I'll pass. It would probably contain less than a half ounce of gold, and would be priced at $3,600.
Of couse the way the price of gold bullion is going, that might be "a deal" in a couple of years. I can't believe it's $2,940 an ounce. Of course it will take $10 to buy a loaf of bread, but the precious metal advocates will think that's "progress."
May I ask where these images came from? Do you have a link?
BTW, Tom Rogers says that he had not been informed that this was going to be happening.
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link...
https://www.usmint.gov/news/ccac-meetings/2025-sacagawea-25th-anniversary-24k-gold-coin
https://www.coinnews.net/2025/02/18/u-s-mint-weighs-2025-sacagawea-25th-anniversary-gold-coin/
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It’s about time the sac will be offered in gold. This is a must for me, hoping they do both the unc & proof versions as they will pair beautifully in a dual coin holder.
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https://www.usmint.gov/news/ccac-meetings/2025-sacagawea-25th-anniversary-24k-gold-coin
What is odd, is that I don't see anything in the current law: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/5112 for a half ounce gold dollar.
The mint does have broad authority to mint
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Exciting only if they offer some with Privies, but set a higher mintage limit than they will actually produce in order to infuriate @NJCoin.
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I can only guess that the person at the US mint who came up with the Flowing Hair gold coin also came up with this Sacajawea gold dollar coin idea, and I think it is a good choice since some were already struck earlier but never released. The mint needs to maintain revenues, and with declining sales of other products it has to be made up with special releases like this.
" In 1999, the Mint produced 39 Proof Sacagawea dollars on 22-karat gold planchets. These coins were 27 mm thick and composed of .9167 fine gold, the same composition used for $25 Uncirculated Gold Eagles.
Of the 39 gold Sacagawea dollars struck, only 12 were deemed of adequate quality. These 12 coins were sent into space aboard the Space Shuttle Columbia on mission STS-93 in July 1999. After their return, they were stored at Fort Knox and have occasionally been exhibited at numismatic events.
It's important to note that these gold Sacagawea dollars were never intended for public sale or circulation. The Mint's original plan to sell gold versions to collectors was halted when some members of Congress questioned the Mint's authority to strike the coins in a different composition than what had been authorized."
I am just happy to see the date is on the obverse of the coin. Not on the edge,,,,,,,,
Edge dating is the dumbest thing the mint ever did,,,,,,,
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It appears that they did not add a specific call-out to the law for the 2024 FH G$1 release. So, I am not sure that they would do anything different for this release.
As I understand it, section (i) (4) (c) gives the Secretary of the Treasury the authority to direct the Mint to produce certain gold coins (i.e., the "broad authority").
Source: page 376 @ https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2023-title31/pdf/USCODE-2023-title31-subtitleIV-chap51-subchapII-sec5112.pdf
Think of the gold versions of the Mercury dime, the Standing Liberty quarter and the Walking Liberty half.
the first spouse gold are 27mm, in pure gold, and are half an ounce.
the weight posted in the first quoted legislation is more in line with a 22k age
small dollars are 27mm
what's missing on the renderings are the pm language
Not sure this is exciting at all, no matter what they do. They seem to be following the path of the Royal Canadian Mint, looking for any excuse to commemorate anything.
Unlike the FH product, does anyone actually think anyone is going to get excited about a solid gold tribute to a coin few cared about in the first place, that was only introduced 25 years ago? Maybe at spot +5-10%, if the mintage was low enough, but no way at the premium they are sure to charge.
They can announce whatever they want in terms of mintage here. I very seriously doubt it will sell out, no matter how few they produce. Just like every gold commemorative, or the proof and burnished AGEs.
" The anniversary edition, as proposed, omits the half-ounce weight and .9999 fineness inscriptions. From a technical standpoint, these details could be added to the coin’s surface or edge. CCAC members expressed mixed opinions on whether to include them. Ultimately, the committee approved a motion recommending both designs as presented. "
At least put the fineness and weight on the edge! To help prevent likely confusion and scams?
They should also strike it in silver, for the 99% of collectors that can't afford a $1500+ "tribute" coin.
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Actually what might be cool is a 4-coin 4-metal design with this design or any other... Gold, Silver, Plat, Palladium.
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I agree with your sentiment, but there is no existing authority to strike silver coins as there is with gold.
Seriously, why? You can get the actual coin for close to $1. How much demand do you think there would be for a $100, one ounce silver tribute?
And, you are dreaming if you think the gold will be priced anywhere close to $1500. I get that you said $1500+. Just realize that the "+" is certain to place the price at right around $2K with spot at around $3K. For a half ounce of gold.
Hard to believe there will be a lot of demand for a gold tribute to a base metal modern coin that never really circulated, and was pulled from production for circulation after only two years. Just an excuse to try to sell some gold at a 30% premium to spot.
I added a privy mark so the mint can get $300,000 per coin.
If they only make 25 coins, you MIGHT have a chance.
You are missing the key fact. They can mint that match the specifications, there is no $1 half ounce gold coin. The half ounce is the $25 coin
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Wasn't the gold Kennedy Half dollar successful? This would be a comparable offering wouldn't it?
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26.5mm to be exact.
The Sacagawea Dollar is one of the better 21st century designs. It is one of the more tasteful versions of a Native American on a US coin.
Given the coin's dimensions, it could be struck with about 1/3 of an ounce of silver and priced around $25 to $30. I would buy one at that price, and so would a lot of others.
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There is if the Secretary says there is. Carefully read it again. And again.
And as many times as necessary to fully absorb "at the same time the Secretary in minting and issuing other bullion and proof gold coins under this subsection in accordance with such program procedures and coin specifications, designs, varieties, quantities, denominations, and inscriptions as the Secretary, in the Secretary’s discretion, may prescribe from time to time."
This is unique to gold coins, and is precisely why issues like the FH gold are coins while the silver versions are medals. They can do whatever they want with respect to gold proof coins. Any weight. Any denomination. That's how you got a 1 ounce $1 gold FH coin. And how you'll get a 0.5 ounce Sacagawea proof gold dollar.
Only if you think the Sacagawea Dollar holds the same place in America's heart as the Kennedy Half Dollar. 50 years after original issue versus 25. Something that actually circulated for decades versus something that was rejected by the public from Day One. Something that honored a beloved assassinated president versus something that honored a Native American interpreter and guide for a pair of famous explorers who helped settle the country at its inception.
Other than that, sure, comparable. They sold 73K Kennedys. And yes, they were very successful.
I bet they won't sell 7300 Sacagaweas. If you want to say they are comparable, because they are both round, made of gold, and sold by the US Mint, I can't stop you.
Again, why? The actual coin is available for close to face value. It's not a 1794 silver dollar.
Silver is a relatively inexpensive precious metal. The only fractionals the Mint sells are the silver dimes, quarters and half dollars in the silver proof sets. You might be interested in a silver Sacagawea at $100/oz silver, but there would not be enough other demand to justify making it.
Respectfully, we interpret (i) (4) (c) differently.
To me, it says:
~ the Secretary may continue to 'mint/issue' the gold coins described in (1) (A) (i.e., 7 = G$50, 8 = G$25, 9 = G$10, and 10 = G$5);
~ and, the Secretary can 'mint/issue' other gold coins, at the Secretary's discretion. For these other gold coins, the Secretary can prescribe the specifications, designs, varieties, quantities, denominations, and inscriptions.
Based on my read, this release could fall under the Secretary's discretionary authority. And, apparently, when this happens, no specific 'call-out/description' is added to the referenced law (e.g., 2024 FH G$1).
You are correct, and there really is nothing to debate. One need look no further than the 2024 one ounce gold proof Flowing Hair $1 coin for evidence, as you noted.
Unless you were living in Las Vegas or Atlantic City and you considered half dollars being fed into slot machines to constitute "circulating", I'm not sure how you can justify that statement.
I don't think I've ever been given a small dollar in change but I've gotten tons of them as change from vending machines. I've never received a JFK half dollar in change from either method.
I could have sworn you said the same about the flowing hair gold coin, but we better not go there. BTW let's not forget there are three superhero gold coins coming out as 1/2 ounce, and I expect sales to not go well for those for all nine coins.
I think Sacagawea actually could do well if they limit the mintage to 10k coins, allow the bullion distributors to buy 20%, and then put out the magical privy mark to lure in the big dollars.
I don't know what to tell you. Aside from Atlantic City and Las Vegas, I would absolutely get half dollars in change from time to time back in the day.
And, as we all know, they were very widely hoarded in the beginning. No one can that about the golden dollars that never really launched. Other than in vending machines, particularly at transit agencies, as the government was trying to jump start their use in the beginning.
in general, people steer clear of unmarked precious metals
usa persons may buy old medallic arts bullion, but despite the mintages, they aren't popular. i attribute a big loss of popularity is the lack of pm marking
these need to be edge lettered
I did. More about the silver than the gold, but yeah. That's before two curve balls were thrown at me -- the privies and the short mintages.
So now I'm back for Round 2. But there was no doubt about the attractiveness and desirability of the FH design. The only issues were the mintage and price. By making far less than advertised, and seeding the silvers with privies, they guaranteed sellouts.
I'm very willing to be wrong again, but Sacagawea is not an iconic design, 25 years is not a particularly meaningful anniversary, gold is at yet another all time high, and the premiums are absolutely outrageous.
I do not think there will be a 4 minute sell out of 10K of these. And, after what they did last time, I wouldn't believe whatever number they put out before sales begin. I won't be in the market regardless, so knock yourselves out.
If I'm wrong again, I won't be shy about admitting it. But I honestly do not see any reason to issue this, and would be shocked if there was more demand for it than for the AGEs they issue every year.
I can’t get very excited over this one. Not a super popular coin to begin with. May look nicer if they make it high relief.
It’s got the Mint-release gang talking again, that’s a selling point.
This is a cycle.
I enjoy the ride. And a relatively affordable entry point.
Unless of course, Fort Knox just has lead bars.
sell the lead as numismatic items and buy real gold for fort knox
You just answered your own question. Sales of the silver proof sets are way north of 100,000 per year, even though the sets are ridiculously expensive and the actual coins are available for close to face value. Collectors simply like silver and are willing to pay up for it. A 2025 silver Sacagawea dollar could easily generate sales in the tens of thousands if not more. Most collectors of that series would want one and could easily afford one. Others like me would buy one because we like the design and think it would look attractive in silver.
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At least it's not a tribute to the Susan B Anthony coin...ooops, maybe in 2029?
The Kennedy Half has not circulated in my lifetime.