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Your thoughts on this 1961 Proof half dollar. UPDATE, OGP SET DELIVERED

SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,298 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 24, 2025 11:37AM in U.S. Coin Forum


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  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a liner CAM/DCAM. I'm leaning more CAM due to the reverse bell.

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  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 16, 2025 2:47PM

    A dip will probably render clear, deep fields and frosted devices which should be a Deep Cameo. I would have bought the set if I was finding it.

  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can't wait to see it after you treat it!

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • 4Redisin4Redisin Posts: 195 ✭✭✭

    Bell support not deep. Is it the light angle?

  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,009 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on the top of the bell, looks like a no-cam, but could be the image.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,328 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It might not be as cloudy as it seems. Some of what you see could be from the mint package.

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stained?

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,298 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 18, 2025 8:00AM

    4Redisin.

    The Full Bell Lines designation on Franklin half dollars is given only to circulation strikes. Proof Franklins do not receive that designation because all of these proof coins have fully struck bell lines.

    As for stains, the reverse photos shows possible stains at the bottom of the bell immediately above the clapper and beneath the R in America. On the obverse there is possible staining above the I in In continuing to Ben’s hair. If those are stains they may be milk spots, that will not come off with a bath.

    The reverse photos shows lettering and the wooden stock having frost that is weaker than the frost on the bell and the obverse frost.

    This half is in an OGP set I bought on EBay. Looking forward to receiving the set.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,392 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have difficult time determining what is on coin and what is on piliform. Good luck and post pics once freed from 60+ year mint holder.

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,298 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here are different photos of the half dollar.

    The photo of the reverse shows frost on the stock being heavier than what is shown in the photo of the reverse in my opening post.


  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,298 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I received the OGP set today. The half looks, inside the cello with some light haze, that it may warrant a Cameo designation. Will cut it out and give it a bath later today.


  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,298 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 24, 2025 12:44PM

    I cut out the half from the cello. It looks very nice. Photos attached.


  • VKurtBVKurtB Posts: 86 ✭✭✭

    Isn’t there a 1961 DDO or DDR proof? I don’t keep close track of them.

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,298 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gave the half a bath. It looks better. I am on the fence about whether the half will receive a Cameo designation since the frost on the stock of the Liberty Bell is weaker than the frost on the bell itself.

    I will be sending it in for grading, so stay tuned.

    Looking at the half closely with a loupe reveals that it is the Variety Vista DDR-002 variety. There are bridges of metal present between the P and L; and between the I and B in E Pluribus Unum. Also there is strike doubling present on States Of America.

    It is an interesting coin.


  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd call it CAM.

    Coin Photographer.

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,298 ✭✭✭✭✭

    These two 1961 halves both graded PF67 in late 2023. If they did not warrant a Cameo designtion I can see this new half dollar not warranting one either.


  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good Luck with your submission.

    WS

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  • Nice DCAM devices.
    Needs deeper mirrored fields for DCAM grade ?

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 25, 2025 6:30PM

    Cut the raw ones out of the usm pkg and put in pvc safe flip

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