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Guess the grade of this 1933-S walker? The PCGS slab with grade is shown in the comment.

orevilleoreville Posts: 12,080 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 5, 2025 7:50PM in U.S. Coin Forum

This walker is graded by PCGS. What grade do you view it as?

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  • CrepidoderaCrepidodera Posts: 400 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65+

  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66

  • MurpheyMurphey Posts: 61 ✭✭

    65+ A little toning on obverse...

  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,080 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5, 2025 7:14PM

    @MrEureka said:
    Probably 67 CAC, because you probably couldn’t care less about anything short of that.

    Be careful Andy. I really liked your slick 1924 Peace Dollar.

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  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,778 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,049 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5, 2025 8:32PM

    I was thinking 58 but instead they gave it a 55 for the hits. The luster is obvious in the reveal but the first pics by Heritage are not helping.

    Edit: now realize they’re both Heritage must be my eyes 🙄

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oreville said:
    This is the PCGS slab graded MS-65. It does not have a CAC green sticker. I do not know if it was submitted to CAC. I will ask Heritage tomorrow. I liked it as an MS-65 enough to buy it.

    Nice coin!

    FWIW, the coin was formerly a 64+ CAC.

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  • AngryTurtleAngryTurtle Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭

    Late to the party but I guessed 65 without peeking. My first reaction was 64, then after looking at it and pondering the strike, went to 65 as my "final answer!" I would guess it would CAC, but less sure about that as i have never submitted Walkers to CAC.

  • Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2025 11:59AM

    Very nice coin. I believe this coin came very well struck. This one most certainly is.

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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,080 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2025 10:18AM

    My opinion on this 1933-S walkers is that the obverse is fabulous, offset by an unusually inferior reverse which is probably why CAC did not sticker it as a 65? Study the reverse and you will like it less and less.

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  • CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oreville: you’re likely right. But I think your coin has good rev detail in the important areas. I do like it, bean or not. The obv is unassailable.

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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When you showed it yesterday I though it should be at least a 65, and maybe a 66. I like the look, a lot. A very clean and natural look.

    I didn't comment because I was going to come back and look at it again. At 65 it sure looks like at least a green beaner to my eyes.


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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,080 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unfortunately,, the coin was shipped by Heritage to my Florida home while I was in New York, so it got returned to Heritage. So I will wait until May to pick it up at their Palm Beach branch.

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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,080 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerguy21D said:

    @oreville said:
    This is the PCGS slab graded MS-65. It does not have a CAC green sticker. I do not know if it was submitted to CAC. I will ask Heritage tomorrow. I liked it as an MS-65 enough to buy it.

    Nice coin!

    FWIW, the coin was formerly a 64+ CAC.

    How do you know this?

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2025 11:45AM

    @oreville said:

    @Walkerguy21D said:

    @oreville said:
    This is the PCGS slab graded MS-65. It does not have a CAC green sticker. I do not know if it was submitted to CAC. I will ask Heritage tomorrow. I liked it as an MS-65 enough to buy it.

    Nice coin!

    FWIW, the coin was formerly a 64+ CAC.

    How do you know this?

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  • EastonCollectionEastonCollection Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oreville said:

    @Walkerguy21D said:

    @oreville said:
    This is the PCGS slab graded MS-65. It does not have a CAC green sticker. I do not know if it was submitted to CAC. I will ask Heritage tomorrow. I liked it as an MS-65 enough to buy it.

    Nice coin!

    FWIW, the coin was formerly a 64+ CAC.

    How do you know this?

    Hi Oreville - At this time, I am a believer that most coins have gone thru the grading services several times. So before, I bid I tend to check prior auctions to see if the coin has been upgraded. Recently, I found a 64 graded coin previously in a 58 holder. It happens so do your research.

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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,080 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @EastonCollection said:

    @oreville said:

    @Walkerguy21D said:

    @oreville said:
    This is the PCGS slab graded MS-65. It does not have a CAC green sticker. I do not know if it was submitted to CAC. I will ask Heritage tomorrow. I liked it as an MS-65 enough to buy it.

    Nice coin!

    FWIW, the coin was formerly a 64+ CAC.

    How do you know this?

    Hi Oreville - At this time, I am a believer that most coins have gone thru the grading services several times. So before, I bid I tend to check prior auctions to see if the coin has been upgraded. Recently, I found a 64 graded coin previously in a 58 holder. It happens so do your research.

    Hard to do during tax season time. LOL. I should not even buy coins then!

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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,080 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @EastonCollection said:

    @oreville said:

    @Walkerguy21D said:

    @oreville said:
    This is the PCGS slab graded MS-65. It does not have a CAC green sticker. I do not know if it was submitted to CAC. I will ask Heritage tomorrow. I liked it as an MS-65 enough to buy it.

    Nice coin!

    FWIW, the coin was formerly a 64+ CAC.

    How do you know this?

    Hi Oreville - At this time, I am a believer that most coins have gone thru the grading services several times. So before, I bid I tend to check prior auctions to see if the coin has been upgraded. Recently, I found a 64 graded coin previously in a 58 holder. It happens so do your research.

    Only reason I bought at tax season time is I placed a low offer of $2,640 to Heritage which was a 64 CACpricing and won the coin.

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,449 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There were two related interesting threads a few years ago about a 1933-s WLH that sold in an overseas auction that created quite a contentious debate as to whether it was authentic. The 64 added by Copperindian sort of reminds me of that coin.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oreville said:

    @EastonCollection said:

    @oreville said:

    @Walkerguy21D said:

    @oreville said:
    This is the PCGS slab graded MS-65. It does not have a CAC green sticker. I do not know if it was submitted to CAC. I will ask Heritage tomorrow. I liked it as an MS-65 enough to buy it.

    Nice coin!

    FWIW, the coin was formerly a 64+ CAC.

    How do you know this?

    Hi Oreville - At this time, I am a believer that most coins have gone thru the grading services several times. So before, I bid I tend to check prior auctions to see if the coin has been upgraded. Recently, I found a 64 graded coin previously in a 58 holder. It happens so do your research.

    Only reason I bought at tax season time is I placed a low offer of $2,640 to Heritager which was a 64 CACpricing and won the coin.

    Great price on a solid coin.

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  • Project NumismaticsProject Numismatics Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful coin at a fair price - nice acquisition!

  • EastonCollectionEastonCollection Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oreville said:

    @EastonCollection said:

    @oreville said:

    @Walkerguy21D said:

    @oreville said:
    This is the PCGS slab graded MS-65. It does not have a CAC green sticker. I do not know if it was submitted to CAC. I will ask Heritage tomorrow. I liked it as an MS-65 enough to buy it.

    Nice coin!

    FWIW, the coin was formerly a 64+ CAC.

    How do you know this?

    Hi Oreville - At this time, I am a believer that most coins have gone thru the grading services several times. So before, I bid I tend to check prior auctions to see if the coin has been upgraded. Recently, I found a 64 graded coin previously in a 58 holder. It happens so do your research.

    Only reason I bought at tax season time is I placed a low offer of $2,640 to Heritage which was a 64 CACpricing and won the coin.

    ok- I got it - as you know - its always tax season...... But if you bought a coin, I am sure its a beautiful coin. Yes - I do but coins during tax season as well and didn't do my research - its called impulse buying.

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  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oreville said:

    Only reason I bought at tax season time is I placed a low offer of $2,640 to Heritage which was a 64 CACpricing and won the coin.

    Now you know why. :)
    Unless they have been inspected in hand, coins without CACs often sell at the next grade lower.

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,479 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 7, 2025 1:11PM

    MS 65 was my guess.

    The OP is lickety-split on the reveal. ;)

    This was posted on Wednesday night.......Don't know why I'm just seeing it now. I guess b/c I wasn't online much yesterday.... :o

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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,080 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DisneyFan said:

    @oreville said:

    Only reason I bought at tax season time is I placed a low offer of $2,640 to Heritage which was a 64 CACpricing and won the coin.

    Now you know why. :)
    Unless they have been inspected in hand, coins without CACs often sell at the next grade lower.

    I agree. I assumed as such.

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  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would have guessed the grade as a 58 due to rub on the reverse eagles feathers. But this could also be a weak strike, which would be known to collectors of this series. Hard to tell from pics. I just wonder if this date/mm exists with a sharp reverse strike? I do place a much higher value on strike than do TPG's. I would have passed on this coin >MS 55 due to my limited knowledge of this series.

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