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What's up w reverse at 9 o'clock on this 1857 O half dime?

holeinone1972holeinone1972 Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭
edited February 2, 2025 6:45PM in U.S. Coin Forum

So as I'm looking thru some little coins that I can't see well w my eyes anymore, camera assist to even see dates etc. Just wondering what is up w the reverse of this 57 o half dime?



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  • TypekatTypekat Posts: 465 ✭✭✭✭

    not much I can see

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm in the damage camp from this photo.

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  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are no major rim cuds known for the 1857-O.
    There are some minor ones, more like "rim fins".

  • epcepc Posts: 257 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2, 2025 11:36AM

    I'm in the post-mint damage or minor lamination camp. It's hard to say from the photo. No extra value.

    I looked at all of my 57-O half dimes, and don't see anything in that location. And as @yosclimber wrote, there are no known notable cuds for the 57-O. (My notes indicate one variety with a rim cud at a different part of the rim, but I don't have the coin or a photo, so that remains in doubt unless confirmed some day.)

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  • 4Redisin4Redisin Posts: 195 ✭✭✭

    @yosclimber said:
    There are no major rim cuds known for the 1857-O.
    There are some minor ones, more like "rim fins".

    Some nice info I never knew but aren't rim cuds raised on a coin? This appears t be obviously pushed in rim damage to many of us.

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @4Redisin said:

    @yosclimber said:
    There are no major rim cuds known for the 1857-O.
    There are some minor ones, more like "rim fins".

    Some nice info I never knew but aren't rim cuds raised on a coin? This appears t be obviously pushed in rim damage to many of us.

    Yes, rim cuds are raised. The photo looked like there might be some small raised areas on the edge of the rim.
    But I agree, the main thing at 9:00 looks like pushed in rim damage.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,154 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could be a slight lamination. Looks like a layer separation.
    Nice obv die cracks thru stars.
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  • holeinone1972holeinone1972 Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭

    Best pics I can do.


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  • TypekatTypekat Posts: 465 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2, 2025 6:49PM

    mini-lamination on the edge

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  • 4Redisin4Redisin Posts: 195 ✭✭✭

    @Typekat said:
    mini-lamination on the edge

    I disagree, now it looks like a planchet flaw.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Rim damage

  • 4Redisin4Redisin Posts: 195 ✭✭✭

    I was 100% rim damage until I saw the edge. I don't think damage looks like the crack I now see.

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @4Redisin said:
    I was 100% rim damage until I saw the edge. I don't think damage looks like the crack I now see.

    Just keep taking different positions; you're bound to be right sooner or later! :D

  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I certainly am not the one to determine these 'things' :/ and particularly with photos. :)

    Meant to post earlier but I had to pull the photos from another device. Here is my half dime (draped) with an edge flaw for comparison. Not sure what was the planchet flaw that caused it. It has a notable depression on the obverse. A little tough to get an edge picture in the slab but the phone camera did maybe okay?
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    Obverse edge

    Reverse edge

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  • 4Redisin4Redisin Posts: 195 ✭✭✭

    @IkesT said:

    @4Redisin said:
    I was 100% rim damage until I saw the edge. I don't think damage looks like the crack I now see.

    Just keep taking different positions; you're bound to be right sooner or later! :D

    OMG, there you go again. Sigh. It's called changing one's opinion based on additional information.

    BTW, please not that there are two groups of people in this discussion. One group is using the forum as it was intended by giving opinions about the OP's coin. The other group of one, who has no clue what he is looking at on the OP's coin, is trolling the new member. How sad for Collectors Universe Forum.

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It appears to be a minor defective planchet (delamination).

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