Gold $10 grade?

MJPHELAN

I don't collect gold, but I was on MyCollect and doing the practice section of Guess the Grade. I was way off on this Gold Piece. Can you gold experts explain why this graded MS-62 (maybe 63, I don't remember for sure).

ProofCollection

I'm not an expert on gold but the fang marks on the neck is something that will make a coin MS62 because they are (arguably) "severe" and in a prime focal area.

PeakRarities

There’s some slide marks/hairlines on the face that are hard to see in that photo, and the rim is a bit chewed at 12:00 on the reverse. Also some business and chatter in the reverse fields. These are graded a bit differently than no motto coins, and often appear conservatively graded at first glance.

relicsncoins

Looks like there is a patch of hairlines below E. Pluribus Unum.

Smudge

I’m at 58.

BillJones

It’s been my experience that No Motto $10 gold grades run all over the place. I have one in an NGC MS-62 holder which looks like an MS-64. I have another that is graded PCGS MS-64 CAC that is better in some ways and not so in others. think the problem is the design weakness on the Indian’s hair which confuses the graders.

As for the OP coin, it looks like an MS-64, shot 65 to me. The marks below the Indian’s chin are a question for me.

MFeld

I would have guessed MS64. And I believe that if no grade information had been provided, in general, the responses would have been quite a bit more positive.

MFeld

@ProofCollection said:
I'm not an expert on gold but the fang marks on the neck is something that will make a coin MS62 because they are (arguably) "severe" and in a prime focal area.

Those marks aren’t nearly bad enough to account for the MS62 grade.

VanHalen

Looks like the nicest 62 $10 Indian I've ever seen. Even as a 63 it would be very strong.

PerryHall

Looks like at least an MS64. If it is graded lower, there may be hairlines that aren't showing up in the pics or the grader was having a bad day.

JerseyB

Id like to buy that at 62 money.

Clackamas1

These are so hard to grade. I have a 63 and I can't figure out why it is not a 66. I just don't know. The nice thing is that you can pickup beautiful ones in lower grades affordably.

oreville

@JerseyB said:
Id like to buy that at 62 money.

+1

KOYNGUY

LOOKS 66

csdot

65

lonemountaincoin

I just sold one in a third party holder that looked nicer in 63 that would likely cross to CACG. I also just bought a 63 PCGS today that doesn't look as nice as this. Generally I'd say 63 PCGS, not CAC.

BillJones

NGC graded this MS-61.

This is graded PCGS MS-64, CAC.