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Will this coin CAC? FUN Show Coin #1 **RESULT POSTED**

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edited February 4, 2025 8:47AM in U.S. Coin Forum

==RESULT POSTED IN COMMENT==

Dropped off 20 coins at FUN for CAC Stickering. Will take a few weeks for results; in the meantime thought it'd be fun to crowdsource guesses. Take a stab and I'll update the post when the coin is back. Include your reasoning, if you care to.





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Will this coin CAC? FUN Show Coin #1 **RESULT POSTED**

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  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    Looks original, nice color and luster, I can't see any reason why it wouldn't. Gold may be possible, it's pretty good looking, but I don't know the series so I'll leave that swing to others.

  • CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    Like @lermish, I’m not an expert on the series. But, I see no reason for it not to green CAC. Nice coin Eric!

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  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,449 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    I personally strongly believe that one had better get the bean. Lovely mint set coin.

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  • P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 2,764 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    @FlyingAl said:
    I personally strongly believe that one had better get the bean. Lovely mint set coin.

    And expertly photographed ;)

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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,519 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with Mark but also call attention to the “X” scratch on the face. Maybe green but maybe not.

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  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,243 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, it won't pass

    I said no becasue I cannot tell the amount of luster from the photo. The luster seems muted to me from the photo. Good luck and I hope it does sticker for you!

  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    Original surfaces and attractive toning should push it over the top. Yes, green.

  • jomjom Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 12, 2025 9:48AM

    @keyman64 said:
    I agree with Mark but also call attention to the “X” scratch on the face. Maybe green but maybe not.

    Yeah, the cheek marks might be a real good reason...

    jom

  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,060 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    Haven't seen it in hand, but I seem to think it will go green. It looks like a lovely original gem of a coin.


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  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, it won't pass

    Heavy toning masks contacts and there appears to be obverse marks on the cheek and that unforgivable reeding mark on the reverse. The color is pretty but not really exceptional for the date from a Mint Set. Typical 66 graded 67 during that era.

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    Lovely color and originality.

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  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,171 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't grade and some of you have eagle eyes that I don't have. If it doesn't pass it will be PVC.

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,194 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    It gets the u1 approval and I think it’s at least a B coin so should get the CAC

  • NorthStarNorthStar Posts: 80 ✭✭✭

    Yes, CAC green...
    Boy, some of you guys are tough graders. I'm scared to death to list any of my humble stuff. My photography skills end with my cell phone camera. How do I get that neat color box on my reply?
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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,898 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DisneyFan said:
    I can't grade and some of you have eagle eyes that I don't have. If it doesn't pass it will be PVC.

    Maybe you’re the one with an eagle eye that none of us have😉 - no one else has expressed any concerns about PVC.

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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,314 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, it won't pass

    Its a gorgeous 66 to me, for reasons already mentioned, as much as I want to "guess" it will cac, I said no, and I do hope I am totally wrong ; )

  • P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 2,764 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 12, 2025 12:51PM
    Yes, Green CAC

    @NorthStar said:
    How do I get that neat color box on my reply?

    It will show up if you vote in the poll at the bottom of my original post.

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,525 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, it won't pass

    I voted no because it is a nice 66 technically, the color carried the load at PCGS.

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  • PumpkinheadPumpkinhead Posts: 55 ✭✭✭
    No, it won't pass

    I always find it difficult to see what’s “going on” underneath deep toning from photographs alone. Just a beautiful-looking coin, but I suspect marks on the portrait (and I believe there are quite a few) will preclude stickering.

  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,500 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    First off please let me stat that these are fabulous images.

    I haven't read what others have written so this is all just going by what I see in the images, how I interpret what I see and my own experience with PCGS and CAC. The coin has that just popped-out of a mint set look to it with attractive, unquestionably real toning that is neither drop-dead gorgeous nor burnt to a crisp original. I see ticks here and there on the portrait and some marks in the obverse field, the latter of which I am attributing to die scratches and polish rather than marks on the coin itself. Also, I think some possible imperfections are retained scuffs on the slab. The reverse, of course, has the milling mark on the eagle's knee. I think the luster is likely good, but not killer. Overall, this coin looks like it could have graded PCGS MS67 in 1990 or 2025 and virtually anywhere in between.

    In my opinion, this coin receives a green CAC sticker. It won't matter that the coin has a few knocks on Washington's portrait or that the eagle's knee has a prominent milling mark. The coin is graded MS67...not MS68.

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  • WalkerloverWalkerlover Posts: 952 ✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    @TomB said:
    First off please let me stat that these are fabulous images.

    I haven't read what others have written so this is all just going by what I see in the images, how I interpret what I see and my own experience with PCGS and CAC. The coin has that just popped-out of a mint set look to it with attractive, unquestionably real toning that is neither drop-dead gorgeous nor burnt to a crisp original. I see ticks here and there on the portrait and some marks in the obverse field, the latter of which I am attributing to die scratches and polish rather than marks on the coin itself. Also, I think some possible imperfections are retained scuffs on the slab. The reverse, of course, has the milling mark on the eagle's knee. I think the luster is likely good, but not killer. Overall, this coin looks like it could have graded PCGS MS67 in 1990 or 2025 and virtually anywhere in between.

    In my opinion, this coin receives a green CAC sticker. It won't matter that the coin has a few knocks on Washington's portrait or that the eagle's knee has a prominent milling mark. The coin is graded MS67...not MS68.

    Can you please explain what a milling mark is for us less experienced collectors

  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    I voted Yes because my guess is the odds are over 50%. It is a very nicely toned piece.

  • WalkerloverWalkerlover Posts: 952 ✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    @TomB said:
    Pretty much another term for a mark that might be left from the reeded edge of another coin. I placed a black circle around the eagle's knee and then a black arrow pointing to the milling mark.

    Thanks Tom, is it the same as the term reed mark?

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    @Walkerlover said:

    @TomB said:
    Pretty much another term for a mark that might be left from the reeded edge of another coin. I placed a black circle around the eagle's knee and then a black arrow pointing to the milling mark.

    Thanks Tom, is it the same as the term reed mark?

    Yes

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, it won't pass

    It will be interesting to see. My guess is no because it wouldn’t get a 67 today.
    Yesterday’s another story, 67+.
    Nice coin either way.

  • yspsalesyspsales Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    I like the coin.

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  • CommemDudeCommemDude Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, it won't pass

    No sticker
    JA in my opinion does not like gold- toned coins, perhaps he thinks they are all pan fried in oil, and the contact mark on the eagles right leg will seal the deal

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  • coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    I'm with the Yes crowd. As TomB noted, it is a 67 and not 68 so some nicks are allowed. Also the 'plate' photos above are 30-50X magnification so they look worse then normal grade magnification. I think the toning looks original and gets it the Green sticker.

  • AvocetAvocet Posts: 270 ✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    I am in the yes group-- very nice coin!

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,388 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At this grade level, it really could go either way. Not voting but if I did, I would say close but no cigar

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  • shishshish Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, it won't pass

    It's very attractive and may sticker as an 67. However, I grade it 66+.

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  • vplite99vplite99 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No bean because of the contact mark on the eagles right leg. I hope I'm wrong - the pictures are great!

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  • air4mdcair4mdc Posts: 929 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, it won't pass

    Nice coin, but the toning appears to be masking several scratches and marks, a few are very noticeable.
    The only option for me would be to send it in for an upgrade to a plus holder, which I don’t think would happen. Keep it as is, save the fees.

  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, it won't pass

    I said no. Reed mark and what appears to be slightly muted luster.

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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 14, 2025 8:12PM
    No, it won't pass

    I voted no because I think it only has a 20% chance of getting a sticker.

    JA is tough on quarters. Still a very pretty quarter but looks more like a wonderful MS-66 to me.

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  • WalkerloverWalkerlover Posts: 952 ✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    Coin looks > @oreville said:

    I voted no because I think it only has a 20% chance of getting a sticker.

    JA is tough on quarters. Still a very pretty quarter but looks more like a wonderful MS-66 to me.

    Any theory to why he is tough on Quarters?

  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 14, 2025 8:47PM
    No, it won't pass

    @Walkerlover said:
    Coin looks > @oreville said:

    I voted no because I think it only has a 20% chance of getting a sticker.

    JA is tough on quarters. Still a very pretty quarter but looks more like a wonderful MS-66 to me.

    Any theory to why he is tough on Quarters?

    JA just is. I was able to figure out his likes and dislikes on submitting MS-66 and MS-67 silver mint state Washington quarters over the years. He does not tolerate even light minor bag marks in the open fields. More tolerant of bag marks in devices as long as it is pretty well hidden but a x mark in an open area of the face is a no-no.
    The bag mark on the eagle’s leg might be acceptable.

    Hard to be sure as looking at a blown up large photo,

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  • WalkerloverWalkerlover Posts: 952 ✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    @oreville said:

    @Walkerlover said:
    Coin looks > @oreville said:

    I voted no because I think it only has a 20% chance of getting a sticker.

    JA is tough on quarters. Still a very pretty quarter but looks more like a wonderful MS-66 to me.

    Any theory to why he is tough on Quarters?

    JA just is. I was able to figure out his likes and dislikes on submitting MS-66 and MS-67 silver mint state Washington quarters over the years. He does not tolerate even light minor bag marks in the open fields. More tolerant of bag marks in devices as long as it is pretty well hidden but a x mark in an open area of the face is a no-no.
    The bag mark on the eagle’s leg might be acceptable.

    Hard to be sure as looking at a blown up large photo,

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  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Gold CAC

    I noticed the reed mark as soon as I voted for gold CAC. I now lean towards green CAC.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,500 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    Well, I was wrong on that guess!

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  • coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    Wonder if nick on Eagle's right leg and mark near Washington's mouth kept it out.

  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,500 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    @coastaljerseyguy said:
    Wonder if nick on Eagle's right leg and mark near Washington's mouth kept it out.

    I would guess with the note of "abrasions" on the coin that it would mean something light and scattered on the surfaces rather than a single, large whack.

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  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    It's still a nice 67.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,255 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The angle shot makes the coin look different. I would never try to grade a coin from a Trueview photo because those pictures often make the coin look the best it can be. I don’t know about the Great Collections photos because I seldom buy from them.

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  • P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 2,764 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Green CAC

    @BillJones said:
    The angle shot makes the coin look different. I would never try to grade a coin from a Trueview photo because those pictures often make the coin look the best it can be. I don’t know about the Great Collections photos because I seldom buy from them.

    I couldn't possibly provide better (or more accurate) photos than the high-resolution images in my original post, which were neither TrueViews nor Great Collections photos, and which represent the coin quite well.

    The angle shot is a quick iPhone snap under harsh overheads/sunlight, which I mostly shared to show the red sticker. There's no substitute to examining a coin in-hand, but we have to work with the limitations of a digital forum.

    I know you participate in GTG threads here frequently based on TrueViews, CACG photography, etc. and seem comfortable enough throwing grades out—I don't really think this is any different.

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  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,171 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 4, 2025 8:31PM

    At least it didn't have PVC. :) Abrasions kept it from stickering as a MS67. Would it then sticker as a MS66+?

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