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“Best of the Mint” coin collection will be available for 2026

HalfDimeHalfDime Posts: 172 ✭✭✭
edited December 31, 2024 6:42PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I am not sure if anyone has posted this, but on the mint website they say this:

"July 4th, 2026 will mark the 250th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence and our country’s Semiquincentennial (Semi-Q) anniversary. To celebrate this significant milestone, the U.S. Mint will be redesigning select circulating coin designs for 2026 and release a “Best of the Mint” coin collection that reflects the rich numismatic history of the United States."

They also list the 21 coins that they think are the best 21, and include these photos:

1792 Half Dime, 1792 Birch Cent, 1793 Liberty Cap Cent, 1804 Silver Dollar, 1836 Gobrecht Silver Dollar, 1848 CAL. Liberty Head $2.50 Gold Coin, and the 1849 $20 Gold Double Eagle

1856 Flying Eagle Cent, 1878 Morgan Silver Dollar, 1907 Saint-Gaudens High Relief $20 Gold Coin, 1909 Lincoln Wheat Cent, 1913 Liberty Head Nickel, 1916 Mercury Dime, 1916 Liberty Walking Half Dollar, 1916 Standing Liberty Quarter Dollar, and the 1921 Peace Dollar

1964 Kennedy Half Dollar, 1986 State of Liberty $5 Gold Coin, 1987 Constitution Bicentennial $5 Gold Coin, 1999 George Washington Commemorative Five Dollar Coin, and the 2017 American Liberty High Relief $100 Gold Coin

I expect sales to be high for these products, especially the old classic designs. It seems to suggest they will come out as sets, so perhaps three circulating sets of coins in this state.

I did notice one oddity, that no native coin designs were selected. Liberty head nickel beat out buffalo nickel?

Eidt: I see that the coin designs are already being prepared so I must have missed this. According to one site this is going to come out in gold:

Four of the five 2026 gold coins celebrating the Mint’s roll in American history were originally produced by the Mint in silver alloys. The five 2026 gold coins are:
➤ A tenth-ounce gold coin using the designs from the 1916 Winged Liberty Head silver dime.
➤ A quarter-ounce gold coin using the designs from 1916 Standing Liberty silver quarter dollar.
➤ A half-ounce gold coin using the designs from the 1916 Walking Liberty silver half dollar.
➤ A 1-ounce gold coin using the designs from the 1804 Draped Bust, Class I silver dollar.
➤ A 1-ounce .9999 fine gold coin using the designs from the 1907 Saint-Gaudens, Roman Numerals (MCMVII), High Relief gold $20 double eagle.

There will also be silver medals for all five gold as companion pieces.
According to U.S. Mint spokesman Michael White, the finish used both for the gold coins and companion silver medals will be Uncirculated, and not a Proof finish.

The companions silver medals will be modern interpretations (ala modern commemoratives).

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    21 coin complete collection set?

    sell just the empty 21 coin wooden display box?

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  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @HalfDime said:
    I am not sure if anyone has posted this, but on the mint website they say this:

    "July 4th, 2026 will mark the 250th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence and our country’s Semiquincentennial (Semi-Q) anniversary. To celebrate this significant milestone, the U.S. Mint will be redesigning select circulating coin designs for 2026 and release a “Best of the Mint” coin collection that reflects the rich numismatic history of the United States."

    They also list the 21 coins that they think are the best 21, and include these photos:

    1792 Half Dime, 1792 Birch Cent, 1793 Liberty Cap Cent, 1804 Silver Dollar, 1836 Gobrecht Silver Dollar, 1848 CAL. Liberty Head $2.50 Gold Coin, and the 1849 $20 Gold Double Eagle

    1856 Flying Eagle Cent, 1878 Morgan Silver Dollar, 1907 Saint-Gaudens High Relief $20 Gold Coin, 1909 Lincoln Wheat Cent, 1913 Liberty Head Nickel, 1916 Mercury Dime, 1916 Liberty Walking Half Dollar, 1916 Standing Liberty Quarter Dollar, and the 1921 Peace Dollar

    1964 Kennedy Half Dollar, 1986 State of Liberty $5 Gold Coin, 1987 Constitution Bicentennial $5 Gold Coin, 1999 George Washington Commemorative Five Dollar Coin, and the 2017 American Liberty High Relief $100 Gold Coin

    I expect sales to be high for these products, especially the old classic designs. It seems to suggest they will come out as sets, so perhaps three circulating sets of coins in this state.

    I did notice one oddity, that no native coin designs were selected. Liberty head nickel beat out buffalo nickel?

    Eidt: I see that the coin designs are already being prepared so I must have missed this. According to one site this is going to come out in gold:

    Four of the five 2026 gold coins celebrating the Mint’s roll in American history were originally produced by the Mint in silver alloys. The five 2026 gold coins are:
    ➤ A tenth-ounce gold coin using the designs from the 1916 Winged Liberty Head silver dime.
    ➤ A quarter-ounce gold coin using the designs from 1916 Standing Liberty silver quarter dollar.
    ➤ A half-ounce gold coin using the designs from the 1916 Walking Liberty silver half dollar.
    ➤ A 1-ounce gold coin using the designs from the 1804 Draped Bust, Class I silver dollar.
    ➤ A 1-ounce .9999 fine gold coin using the designs from the 1907 Saint-Gaudens, Roman Numerals (MCMVII), High Relief gold $20 double eagle.

    Yup. How do you think the 1794 Flowing Hair Dollar would fit in this group, as part of one of those sets? 😀

  • HalfDimeHalfDime Posts: 172 ✭✭✭
    edited December 31, 2024 2:51PM

    @NJCoin said:

    Yup. How do you think the 1794 Flowing Hair Dollar would fit in this group, as part of one of those sets? 😀

    >

    U h oh if they do a set of 250 mintage privy coins in gold and auction them off. That will really stir the pot.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @HalfDime said:

    @NJCoin said:

    Yup. How do you think the 1794 Flowing Hair Dollar would fit in this group, as part of one of those sets? 😀

    >

    U h oh if they do a set of 250 privy coins in gold. That will really stir the pot.

    No. Maybe you haven't been paying attention to the other threads, but I've been harping since the silver FH medals came out that the unreleased medals, and then the gold coins, were being held back for inclusion in a 2026 Best of the Mint set. Your post kind of made my case, since it's an obvious classic coin that would fit right in with the group you posted.

  • CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No Buffalo 5C? How about Seated coinage of any kind? And Barbers? But the most disappointing to me? No IHC - it only had a 51 year run! Not good enough, it appears. I must have missed something; it appears I’m not alone!

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  • HalfDimeHalfDime Posts: 172 ✭✭✭

    So the 5 coin gold set is 2.85 ounces of gold to go full in, which is probably going to be 10k to buy at mint prices. Yikes. It may not sell as well as they think, although many will buy. Perhaps they go with a mintage of 10k that represents the price for the set.

  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,954 ✭✭✭✭

    I don't mind the idea overall, but think it's somewhat funny to do the Merc, Standing Liberty, Walker in fractional gold sizes again ten years after doing them in 2016. Be interesting to compare mintages and demand, anyway.

  • HalfDimeHalfDime Posts: 172 ✭✭✭

    @NJCoin said:

    No. Maybe you haven't been paying attention to the other threads, but I've been harping since the silver FH medals came out that the unreleased medals, and then the gold coins, were being held back for inclusion in a 2026 Best of the Mint set. Your post kind of made my case, since it's an obvious classic coin that would fit right in with the group you posted.

    >

    I think your harp likely broke a string, as the Flowing hair gold coin is not dated to be a 1776 celebration coin. They would have to strike them with a 2026 date, and then they would not be considered as having come from the 2024 coins/medals.

  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One thing for sure. They will price out the majority of collectors.

    Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc

  • HalfDimeHalfDime Posts: 172 ✭✭✭

    Many of the circulating versions are looking more like commemorative coins. I think all the money will go after the classic designs.

  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,954 ✭✭✭✭

    If those images for the circulating versions are close to what we might expect, I look forward to collecting them. Nothing will ever appeal to everyone 100%. Some of the current quarters honoring women are great -- others are awful-looking.

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 31, 2024 4:14PM

    @originalisbest said:
    I don't mind the idea overall, but think it's somewhat funny to do the Merc, Standing Liberty, Walker in fractional gold sizes again ten years after doing them in 2016. Be interesting to compare mintages and demand, anyway.

    Agree, but same thought for the entire third group. I'd also prefer to own an actual Bust dollar in XF or somewhat better than an NCLT gold version.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @HalfDime said:

    @NJCoin said:

    No. Maybe you haven't been paying attention to the other threads, but I've been harping since the silver FH medals came out that the unreleased medals, and then the gold coins, were being held back for inclusion in a 2026 Best of the Mint set. Your post kind of made my case, since it's an obvious classic coin that would fit right in with the group you posted.

    >

    I think your harp likely broke a string, as the Flowing hair gold coin is not dated to be a 1776 celebration coin. They would have to strike them with a 2026 date, and then they would not be considered as having come from the 2024 coins/medals.

    TBD. If they are included, they will be the 2024 dated coins already struck, and the 2024 medals. Not to be a 1776 celebration coin, but to be included in a "Best of the Mint" set representing the nation's first silver dollar. They either already made them, and/or have authorization to make them, but have not sold them to date.

    The dates won't change, because the dates commemorate the 230th anniversary of the coin. They'd be included in the sets because they are related, and because they were held back from the maximum mintage this year for that purpose.

    Or not. I am speculating/predicting because there is no other reason to have not sold them this year, given the overwhelming demand and the profit to be made by the Mint.

    And yet they didn't. That did not happen for no reason, so I think it was to have 25K medals and 7.5K gold coins to include in sets.

    Maybe I'm nuts. Maybe I'm on to something. Your post, with a reference to sets, triggered me. Stay tuned.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @alaura22 said:
    Let S&B buy them all.....................

    SB didn't buy them this time. No reason to think they will in the future. And no, $10K for 3 ounces of gold does not lend itself to a SB auction the way $30K for one ounce does, so that's not really a possibility.

    If my speculation is correct, 7,500 sets of gold coins will be marketed in the future. They will include the missing 2024 FH gold coins, that currently sell for $4600+ by themselves. There would be a vibrant market for such a set at pretty much whatever price the Mint sets, without help from SB. There will also be 25K sets of the related silver medals.

    Stay tuned. I think it's a very real possibility.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WCC said:

    @originalisbest said:
    I don't mind the idea overall, but think it's somewhat funny to do the Merc, Standing Liberty, Walker in fractional gold sizes again ten years after doing them in 2016. Be interesting to compare mintages and demand, anyway.

    Agree, but same thought for the entire third group. I'd also prefer to own an actual Bust dollar in XF or somewhat better than an NCLT gold version.

    That's fine, and it's why Baskin-Robbins offers 31 flavors. OTOH, the Mint has shown time and again that there is an eager and willing market for modern tributes to the classics. Can't blame them for feeding it.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @privatecoin said:
    One thing for sure. They will price out the majority of collectors.

    It is what it is. Porsche prices out the majority of car buyers. There is something for everyone, but everyone cannot afford everything.

    Like this time around with the FH, there will almost certainly be silver medals to accompany gold coins. If people cannot afford, or don't want to pay, $100+ for an ounce of silver, then they are priced out.

    Which is fine. Because, again, everything is not meant for everyone. From 230 gold privy coins on down to 50,000, or 75,000, silver medals.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    21 coin complete collection set?

    sell just the empty 21 coin wooden display box?

    ok. edited op:

    5 coin wooden box too

    then the 26 coin wooden box

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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @alaura22 said:
    Let S&B buy them all.....................

    Vomit+choke. RGDS!

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  • HalfDimeHalfDime Posts: 172 ✭✭✭
    edited December 31, 2024 4:52PM

    @NJCoin said:

    SB didn't buy them this time. No reason to think they will in the future. And no, $10K for 3 ounces of gold does not lend itself to a SB auction the way $30K for one ounce does, so that's not really a possibility.

    If my speculation is correct, 7,500 sets of gold coins will be marketed in the future. They will include the missing 2024 FH gold coins, that currently sell for $4600+ by themselves. There would be a vibrant market for such a set at pretty much whatever price the Mint sets, without help from SB. There will also be 25K sets of the related silver medals.

    Stay tuned. I think it's a very real possibility.

    I'm not sure if you are talking about only 7,500 sets of these in total, but based on past sales the High Relief UHR St Gaudens could do 25k alone, and the fractionals could sell for the less fortunate collectors. If this is an all or nothing proposition then many will not be able to afford the entire set, but many will buy to flip on credit card, since demand will far exceed supply. BTW the mint never goes and back dates coins that are struck in the future, they only forward date coins or have them dated the year of striking. So early 2025 coins are struck late in 2024, but 2024 coins are not struck in 2025 or later years. I can't recall the mint ever doing this in the modern era.

  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @NJCoin said:

    @HalfDime said:

    @NJCoin said:

    No. Maybe you haven't been paying attention to the other threads, but I've been harping since the silver FH medals came out that the unreleased medals, and then the gold coins, were being held back for inclusion in a 2026 Best of the Mint set. Your post kind of made my case, since it's an obvious classic coin that would fit right in with the group you posted.

    >

    I think your harp likely broke a string, as the Flowing hair gold coin is not dated to be a 1776 celebration coin. They would have to strike them with a 2026 date, and then they would not be considered as having come from the 2024 coins/medals.

    TBD. If they are included, they will be the 2024 dated coins already struck, and the 2024 medals. Not to be a 1776 celebration coin, but to be included in a "Best of the Mint" set representing the nation's first silver dollar. They either already made them, and/or have authorization to make them, but have not sold them to date.

    The dates won't change, because the dates commemorate the 230th anniversary of the coin. They'd be included in the sets because they are related, and because they were held back from the maximum mintage this year for that purpose.

    Or not. I am speculating/predicting because there is no other reason to have not sold them this year, given the overwhelming demand and the profit to be made by the Mint.

    And yet they didn't. That did not happen for no reason, so I think it was to have 25K medals and 7.5K gold coins to include in sets.

    Maybe I'm nuts. Maybe I'm on to something. Your post, with a reference to sets, triggered me. Stay tuned.

    Delusional and nuts. No doubt about it at this point.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,990 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Manorcourtman said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @HalfDime said:

    @NJCoin said:

    No. Maybe you haven't been paying attention to the other threads, but I've been harping since the silver FH medals came out that the unreleased medals, and then the gold coins, were being held back for inclusion in a 2026 Best of the Mint set. Your post kind of made my case, since it's an obvious classic coin that would fit right in with the group you posted.

    >

    I think your harp likely broke a string, as the Flowing hair gold coin is not dated to be a 1776 celebration coin. They would have to strike them with a 2026 date, and then they would not be considered as having come from the 2024 coins/medals.

    TBD. If they are included, they will be the 2024 dated coins already struck, and the 2024 medals. Not to be a 1776 celebration coin, but to be included in a "Best of the Mint" set representing the nation's first silver dollar. They either already made them, and/or have authorization to make them, but have not sold them to date.

    The dates won't change, because the dates commemorate the 230th anniversary of the coin. They'd be included in the sets because they are related, and because they were held back from the maximum mintage this year for that purpose.

    Or not. I am speculating/predicting because there is no other reason to have not sold them this year, given the overwhelming demand and the profit to be made by the Mint.

    And yet they didn't. That did not happen for no reason, so I think it was to have 25K medals and 7.5K gold coins to include in sets.

    Maybe I'm nuts. Maybe I'm on to something. Your post, with a reference to sets, triggered me. Stay tuned.

    Delusional and nuts. No doubt about it at this point.

    Now that he's triggered, prepare for incoming bogies...

  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I suppose the mint could sell the right to auction them off like before. Then everyone gets a chance right? Any news on that?

  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Manorcourtman said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @HalfDime said:

    @NJCoin said:

    No. Maybe you haven't been paying attention to the other threads, but I've been harping since the silver FH medals came out that the unreleased medals, and then the gold coins, were being held back for inclusion in a 2026 Best of the Mint set. Your post kind of made my case, since it's an obvious classic coin that would fit right in with the group you posted.

    >

    I think your harp likely broke a string, as the Flowing hair gold coin is not dated to be a 1776 celebration coin. They would have to strike them with a 2026 date, and then they would not be considered as having come from the 2024 coins/medals.

    TBD. If they are included, they will be the 2024 dated coins already struck, and the 2024 medals. Not to be a 1776 celebration coin, but to be included in a "Best of the Mint" set representing the nation's first silver dollar. They either already made them, and/or have authorization to make them, but have not sold them to date.

    The dates won't change, because the dates commemorate the 230th anniversary of the coin. They'd be included in the sets because they are related, and because they were held back from the maximum mintage this year for that purpose.

    Or not. I am speculating/predicting because there is no other reason to have not sold them this year, given the overwhelming demand and the profit to be made by the Mint.

    And yet they didn't. That did not happen for no reason, so I think it was to have 25K medals and 7.5K gold coins to include in sets.

    Maybe I'm nuts. Maybe I'm on to something. Your post, with a reference to sets, triggered me. Stay tuned.

    Delusional and nuts. No doubt about it at this point.

    Now that he's triggered, prepare for incoming bogies...

    Great, a new thread for him to speculate and rewrite history! Gotta love this place.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    no single wooden boxes likes? and perhaps we could even get real velvet!

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,990 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Manorcourtman said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Manorcourtman said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @HalfDime said:

    @NJCoin said:

    No. Maybe you haven't been paying attention to the other threads, but I've been harping since the silver FH medals came out that the unreleased medals, and then the gold coins, were being held back for inclusion in a 2026 Best of the Mint set. Your post kind of made my case, since it's an obvious classic coin that would fit right in with the group you posted.

    >

    I think your harp likely broke a string, as the Flowing hair gold coin is not dated to be a 1776 celebration coin. They would have to strike them with a 2026 date, and then they would not be considered as having come from the 2024 coins/medals.

    TBD. If they are included, they will be the 2024 dated coins already struck, and the 2024 medals. Not to be a 1776 celebration coin, but to be included in a "Best of the Mint" set representing the nation's first silver dollar. They either already made them, and/or have authorization to make them, but have not sold them to date.

    The dates won't change, because the dates commemorate the 230th anniversary of the coin. They'd be included in the sets because they are related, and because they were held back from the maximum mintage this year for that purpose.

    Or not. I am speculating/predicting because there is no other reason to have not sold them this year, given the overwhelming demand and the profit to be made by the Mint.

    And yet they didn't. That did not happen for no reason, so I think it was to have 25K medals and 7.5K gold coins to include in sets.

    Maybe I'm nuts. Maybe I'm on to something. Your post, with a reference to sets, triggered me. Stay tuned.

    Delusional and nuts. No doubt about it at this point.

    Now that he's triggered, prepare for incoming bogies...

    Great, a new thread for him to speculate and rewrite history! Gotta love this place.

    This is actually the sequel to the prior thread. He's convinced the 5000 coins were minted and will eventually be distributed.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    what are the mintage limits going to be?

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    perhaps they could do a pre-sale

    plus a 250 privy auction

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  • MartinMartin Posts: 999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Manorcourtman said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Manorcourtman said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @HalfDime said:

    @NJCoin said:

    No. Maybe you haven't been paying attention to the other threads, but I've been harping since the silver FH medals came out that the unreleased medals, and then the gold coins, were being held back for inclusion in a 2026 Best of the Mint set. Your post kind of made my case, since it's an obvious classic coin that would fit right in with the group you posted.

    >

    I think your harp likely broke a string, as the Flowing hair gold coin is not dated to be a 1776 celebration coin. They would have to strike them with a 2026 date, and then they would not be considered as having come from the 2024 coins/medals.

    TBD. If they are included, they will be the 2024 dated coins already struck, and the 2024 medals. Not to be a 1776 celebration coin, but to be included in a "Best of the Mint" set representing the nation's first silver dollar. They either already made them, and/or have authorization to make them, but have not sold them to date.

    The dates won't change, because the dates commemorate the 230th anniversary of the coin. They'd be included in the sets because they are related, and because they were held back from the maximum mintage this year for that purpose.

    Or not. I am speculating/predicting because there is no other reason to have not sold them this year, given the overwhelming demand and the profit to be made by the Mint.

    And yet they didn't. That did not happen for no reason, so I think it was to have 25K medals and 7.5K gold coins to include in sets.

    Maybe I'm nuts. Maybe I'm on to something. Your post, with a reference to sets, triggered me. Stay tuned.

    Delusional and nuts. No doubt about it at this point.

    Now that he's triggered, prepare for incoming bogies...

    Great, a new thread for him to speculate and rewrite history! Gotta love this place.

    And for more than a year 🙄

    Martin

  • WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 2,863 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 31, 2024 6:00PM

    I think this is an interesting concept!

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it's more than a concept

    it's reality

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,332 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is from “The Onion,” right?

    Gack!

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    "The 2nd Protects the 1st"
  • WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 2,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    it's more than a concept

    it's reality

    True!

  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Will are hosts offer a 2026 slabbing deal for the flips..? Oh my the possibilities are endless!!

  • CoinPhysicistCoinPhysicist Posts: 600 ✭✭✭✭

    Surprised they would choose a liberty cap cent over a chain cent. And the 1796 quarter and half dollar being snubbed a little bit. 1794 dollar you can understand given that it just got something.

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  • Rc5280Rc5280 Posts: 148 ✭✭✭

    I'll take one of these BOM candidates in 1oz .9999 ⇊ thank you very much....
    .

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 31, 2024 6:52PM

    @HalfDime said:

    @NJCoin said:

    SB didn't buy them this time. No reason to think they will in the future. And no, $10K for 3 ounces of gold does not lend itself to a SB auction the way $30K for one ounce does, so that's not really a possibility.

    If my speculation is correct, 7,500 sets of gold coins will be marketed in the future. They will include the missing 2024 FH gold coins, that currently sell for $4600+ by themselves. There would be a vibrant market for such a set at pretty much whatever price the Mint sets, without help from SB. There will also be 25K sets of the related silver medals.

    Stay tuned. I think it's a very real possibility.

    I'm not sure if you are talking about only 7,500 sets of these in total, but based on past sales the High Relief UHR St Gaudens could do 25k alone, and the fractionals could sell for the less fortunate collectors. If this is an all or nothing proposition then many will not be able to afford the entire set, but many will buy to flip on credit card, since demand will far exceed supply. BTW the mint never goes and back dates coins that are struck in the future, they only forward date coins or have them dated the year of striking. So early 2025 coins are struck late in 2024, but 2024 coins are not struck in 2025 or later years. I can't recall the mint ever doing this in the modern era.

    If I am correct, there will be individual coins and medals, with mintages similar to those of the 2024 FHs. I have been speculating that there will also be complete sets offered, based on nothing other than the fact that the Mint held back a specific portion of the authorized mintage of the both the gold FH coin and the silver FH medal.

    Without rhyme or reason, and without prior notice. if I am correct, there will be 7500 sets of gold coins and 25,000 silver medals, in addition to individual offerings of each coin and medal to be made in the "Best of the Mint" series. Those sets will include the items held back in 2024.

    If not, not. But, until 2026 comes and goes without such a set being offered, I'm sticking to it.

    Medals can be minted at any time, with any date or no date. As for coins, my speculation is that the first statement made by the Mint to Coin World that all 17,500 gold coins had been minted, before anything went on sale, is the correct statement.

    They later revised that to say only 10,000 would be offered for sale. Not that only 10,000 had ever been made, and that no more would ever be made. They also never explained the discrepancy between the two statements.

    I might be wrong, but my theory is that they do not want to announce a 2026 set in 2024. If they were really only ever going to make 50,000 FH silver medals, and 10,000 gold coins, they could have revised the authorized mintage lower, rather than simply publishing a Product Limit to conform to what they already placed on sale. They did not do so, and that has been speaking volumes to me ever since.

    YMMV. Lots of folks here disagree with me.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    This is from “The Onion,” right?

    Gack!

    which part makes you cry?

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  • jakebluejakeblue Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    @Rc5280 said:
    I'll take one of these BOM candidates in 1oz .9999 ⇊ thank you very much....
    .

    "The 2nd Protects the 1st"
  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coin Finder said:
    I suppose the mint could sell the right to auction them off like before. Then everyone gets a chance right? Any news on that?

    A year and a half out? 🤣 No.

    Not gonna happen, unless the mintages are in the hundreds, rather than thousands or tens of thousands. Everyone always has a chance. Either direct from the Mint, or from their favorite dealer or eBay.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    where will they put the 250 privy on each coin?

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  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Manorcourtman said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Manorcourtman said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @HalfDime said:

    @NJCoin said:

    No. Maybe you haven't been paying attention to the other threads, but I've been harping since the silver FH medals came out that the unreleased medals, and then the gold coins, were being held back for inclusion in a 2026 Best of the Mint set. Your post kind of made my case, since it's an obvious classic coin that would fit right in with the group you posted.

    >

    I think your harp likely broke a string, as the Flowing hair gold coin is not dated to be a 1776 celebration coin. They would have to strike them with a 2026 date, and then they would not be considered as having come from the 2024 coins/medals.

    TBD. If they are included, they will be the 2024 dated coins already struck, and the 2024 medals. Not to be a 1776 celebration coin, but to be included in a "Best of the Mint" set representing the nation's first silver dollar. They either already made them, and/or have authorization to make them, but have not sold them to date.

    The dates won't change, because the dates commemorate the 230th anniversary of the coin. They'd be included in the sets because they are related, and because they were held back from the maximum mintage this year for that purpose.

    Or not. I am speculating/predicting because there is no other reason to have not sold them this year, given the overwhelming demand and the profit to be made by the Mint.

    And yet they didn't. That did not happen for no reason, so I think it was to have 25K medals and 7.5K gold coins to include in sets.

    Maybe I'm nuts. Maybe I'm on to something. Your post, with a reference to sets, triggered me. Stay tuned.

    Delusional and nuts. No doubt about it at this point.

    Now that he's triggered, prepare for incoming bogies...

    Great, a new thread for him to speculate and rewrite history! Gotta love this place.

    Not rewriting history. Just predicting the future.

    Two items were issued with Product Limits below their authorized mintages. I am speculating that those items are going to surface as part of another product in the future.

    Time will tell. I'm sure no one here will let me forget if I am wrong, just as I won't let anyone forget if I am right. 😀

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 31, 2024 7:00PM

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Manorcourtman said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Manorcourtman said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @HalfDime said:

    @NJCoin said:

    No. Maybe you haven't been paying attention to the other threads, but I've been harping since the silver FH medals came out that the unreleased medals, and then the gold coins, were being held back for inclusion in a 2026 Best of the Mint set. Your post kind of made my case, since it's an obvious classic coin that would fit right in with the group you posted.

    >

    I think your harp likely broke a string, as the Flowing hair gold coin is not dated to be a 1776 celebration coin. They would have to strike them with a 2026 date, and then they would not be considered as having come from the 2024 coins/medals.

    TBD. If they are included, they will be the 2024 dated coins already struck, and the 2024 medals. Not to be a 1776 celebration coin, but to be included in a "Best of the Mint" set representing the nation's first silver dollar. They either already made them, and/or have authorization to make them, but have not sold them to date.

    The dates won't change, because the dates commemorate the 230th anniversary of the coin. They'd be included in the sets because they are related, and because they were held back from the maximum mintage this year for that purpose.

    Or not. I am speculating/predicting because there is no other reason to have not sold them this year, given the overwhelming demand and the profit to be made by the Mint.

    And yet they didn't. That did not happen for no reason, so I think it was to have 25K medals and 7.5K gold coins to include in sets.

    Maybe I'm nuts. Maybe I'm on to something. Your post, with a reference to sets, triggered me. Stay tuned.

    Delusional and nuts. No doubt about it at this point.

    Now that he's triggered, prepare for incoming bogies...

    Great, a new thread for him to speculate and rewrite history! Gotta love this place.

    This is actually the sequel to the prior thread. He's convinced the 5000 coins were minted and will eventually be distributed.

    7500 coins, and yes, I am convinced. That's a lot to leave on the table at a $1,000+ premium to spot for no reason whatsoever, other than maybe to support a secondary market they haven't cared a lick about with respect to issues like the 2024 Morgan and Peace Dollars.

  • Rc5280Rc5280 Posts: 148 ✭✭✭

    @NJCoin

    " I have been speculating that there will also be complete sets offered, based on nothing other than the fact that the Mint held back a specific portion of the authorized mintage of the both the gold FH coin and the silver FH medal."

    Speculating? Yes.

    Stating facts? No.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    what are the mintage limits going to be?

    TBD, but the FH limits are a reasonable place to start. Including the hold back for my speculated sets. The first time the first coin or medal is announced, with or without a Product Limit different from a Mintage Limit, we'll all see whether or not I am correct.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinPhysicist said:
    Surprised they would choose a liberty cap cent over a chain cent. And the 1796 quarter and half dollar being snubbed a little bit. 1794 dollar you can understand given that it just got something.

    These are just the candidates. They are only going to be making a few. Many are going to be snubbed.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 31, 2024 7:23PM

    @Rc5280 said:
    @NJCoin

    " I have been speculating that there will also be complete sets offered, based on nothing other than the fact that the Mint held back a specific portion of the authorized mintage of the both the gold FH coin and the silver FH medal."

    Speculating? Yes.

    Stating facts? No.

    Yes, of course. It's over a year away.

    Facts are that 2024 FH gold and silver Mintage Limits were published and not sold, with a later revision to Product Limits, not Mintage Limits. Absolutely nothing stopped the Mint from revising the Mintage Limits downward, rather than just publishing a lower Product Limit, if they are, in fact, never going to release any more than have already been sold.

    They chose not to do that. I didn't. Facts are that the Mint told Coin World that 17,500 gold coins were made, only to later retract that statement, without explaining the discrepancy.

    Those are facts. The rest is my speculation resulting therefrom.

    Because not producing to a limit when there is demand is a new, inexplicable thing for the Mint under the circumstances. Because being so opaque, or outright misleading, with all of their statements and published limits with respect to the FH product is now causing me to not accept anything they say at face value with respect to what they did or didn't make, or will or won't make in the future, so long as there is a gap between what has been released and what is authorized to be released.

    I am just trying to make sense of it. And this makes sense to me.

    If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Otherwise, maybe you'll all be just a little sorry for piling on.

    Maybe not. Either way, it's fine. I'm putting it out there, and I can take whatever anyone slings my way as a result.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    seems like higher mintages are a lock for the 5 250th coins

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