@Mizzou said:
If the seller was that ignorant, you should have offered him $4
If anything, offering more, not less, would have been appropriate.
If the buyer had been a dealer, would you have suggested that he offer $4, too?
Please stop with the morals. We live it a cruel world. Most of the time I jump at a mistake. The ONLY TIME I can think of when I did the "right thing" happened at a small coin show. Some dealer was selling stuff for a lady who's husband had passed and I bought some neat stuff at $5 @ - 3 for $12 from the junk box. I can't even remember what I bought. There were two Egyptian gold colored coins the size of a $10 Indian that were beautifully enameled and covered with a Lucite looking dome. I thought they were nice but passed. A little while later, after I thought about it, I went back to buy them. As I was paying $12 for the two plus another trinket I realized that they were actually gold coins that were turned into beautiful Jewelry. I told the seller what they were and gave them back. On one hand, I felt really good about what I had done for the widow; yet really bad at the same time for missing one of my biggest all time scores - $$$$ worth of gold for $10! The thing that made me mad was if I had bought them in the beginning, having no idea of what they were, I would not have discovered what I had until much later as a really BIG SURPRISE. Then I would not have felt any moral guilt or felt the need to find the seller a another show.
So. yes. I would have asked the flea market guy if he could do $4.50. After all, the coin is only a dollar.
Even though you said “Please”, I choose to decline your request.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@Mizzou said:
If the seller was that ignorant, you should have offered him $4
If anything, offering more, not less, would have been appropriate.
If the buyer had been a dealer, would you have suggested that he offer $4, too?
Please stop with the morals. We live it a cruel world. Most of the time I jump at a mistake. The ONLY TIME I can think of when I did the "right thing" happened at a small coin show. Some dealer was selling stuff for a lady who's husband had passed and I bought some neat stuff at $5 @ - 3 for $12 from the junk box. I can't even remember what I bought. There were two Egyptian gold colored coins the size of a $10 Indian that were beautifully enameled and covered with a Lucite looking dome. I thought they were nice but passed. A little while later, after I thought about it, I went back to buy them. As I was paying $12 for the two plus another trinket I realized that they were actually gold coins that were turned into beautiful Jewelry. I told the seller what they were and gave them back. On one hand, I felt really good about what I had done for the widow; yet really bad at the same time for missing one of my biggest all time scores - $$$$ worth of gold for $10! The thing that made me mad was if I had bought them in the beginning, having no idea of what they were, I would not have discovered what I had until much later as a really BIG SURPRISE. Then I would not have felt any moral guilt or felt the need to find the seller a another show.
So. yes. I would have asked the flea market guy if he could do $4.50. After all, the coin is only a dollar.
"Please stop with the morals."
SMDH
I think I'll roll with Mark and hope karma takes care of the immoral or unethical among us.
How did you come to that conclusion? The coin looks original to me. The question is does it have a slight rub, or is it an MS-63 or 64?
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@CoinHoarder said:
If it is not in a slab, I do not see any of my dealers paying more than $30 for a raw Morgan Dollar. And $30 would probably be on the high side.
@CoinHoarder said:
If it is not in a slab, I do not see any of my dealers paying more than $30 for a raw Morgan Dollar. And $30 would probably be on the high side.
I would guess at MS-63. Tough to see any contact marks because of the toning and lighting, but the cheek looks clean overall.
@MsMorrisine said:
i wouldn't try to learn from ebay
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@Mizzou said:
If the seller was that ignorant, you should have offered him $4
If anything, offering more, not less, would have been appropriate.
If the buyer had been a dealer, would you have suggested that he offer $4, too?
Please stop with the morals. We live it a cruel world. Most of the time I jump at a mistake. The ONLY TIME I can think of when I did the "right thing" happened at a small coin show. Some dealer was selling stuff for a lady who's husband had passed and I bought some neat stuff at $5 @ - 3 for $12 from the junk box. I can't even remember what I bought. There were two Egyptian gold colored coins the size of a $10 Indian that were beautifully enameled and covered with a Lucite looking dome. I thought they were nice but passed. A little while later, after I thought about it, I went back to buy them. As I was paying $12 for the two plus another trinket I realized that they were actually gold coins that were turned into beautiful Jewelry. I told the seller what they were and gave them back. On one hand, I felt really good about what I had done for the widow; yet really bad at the same time for missing one of my biggest all time scores - $$$$ worth of gold for $10! The thing that made me mad was if I had bought them in the beginning, having no idea of what they were, I would not have discovered what I had until much later as a really BIG SURPRISE. Then I would not have felt any moral guilt or felt the need to find the seller a another show.
So. yes. I would have asked the flea market guy if he could do $4.50. After all, the coin is only a dollar.
Even though you said “Please”, I choose to decline your request.
Nevertheless, there are wolves and sheep in the world. The sheep get eaten and the earth continues to turn. Yummy.
How did you come to that conclusion? The coin looks original to me. The question is does it have a slight rub, or is it an MS-63 or 64?
Bill I would say the coin looks to have original honest toning that occurred over the years. Not being enough of an expert like you guys on the forum I am having a hard time discerning if it is AU 58 or uncirculated. The cheek and fields are fairly clean, but the lack of luster is making me think otherwise. Unless the toning is muting most of the luster. Perhaps the coin needs to be dipped?
@CoinHoarder said:
If it is not in a slab, I do not see any of my dealers paying more than $30 for a raw Morgan Dollar. And $30 would probably be on the high side.
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Even though you said “Please”, I choose to decline your request.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
"Please stop with the morals."
SMDH
I think I'll roll with Mark and hope karma takes care of the immoral or unethical among us.
The old double standard.
How did you come to that conclusion? The coin looks original to me. The question is does it have a slight rub, or is it an MS-63 or 64?
If it is not in a slab, I do not see any of my dealers paying more than $30 for a raw Morgan Dollar. And $30 would probably be on the high side.
@Crypto disagrees
I do, too. I’d pay $35 and there must be other dealers who’d pay that.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Funny how an innocuous thread can separate the wheat from the chaff.
I would guess at MS-63. Tough to see any contact marks because of the toning and lighting, but the cheek looks clean overall.
You are missing out.
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Nevertheless, there are wolves and sheep in the world. The sheep get eaten and the earth continues to turn. Yummy.
Bill I would say the coin looks to have original honest toning that occurred over the years. Not being enough of an expert like you guys on the forum I am having a hard time discerning if it is AU 58 or uncirculated. The cheek and fields are fairly clean, but the lack of luster is making me think otherwise. Unless the toning is muting most of the luster. Perhaps the coin needs to be dipped?
that toning appears too thick to dip without leaving it flat and lusterless
try to get better pictures
I think $30 to $35 is the reasonable range. I'm at $32.50. I got yelled at for that, however.
i was hoping to see some color on it and maybe some luster or a reason it's not there
the reverse shows some luster
common date/mm - low grade MS/au
color? can't take my eyes off the death black toning
for $5, it's a trophy. for the realities of the coin, you got a coin that will sell for what other common ms/au morgans would sell for
Not really that black it just photographed that way, looks basically more like the top photo a slight darkness at the rim.
Only important question is where is the flea market? LOL.
As in, the impostors?
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super cool find at ANY market for $5 man, sweet!
Based on bottom pic, might be MS.