Is this 1793 Chain Cent an Electrotype?
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Here are images of the coin including edge shots. Weighs 16.6 grams so much heavier than authentic coin. Welcome opinions.
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Electrotypes have many different appearances. This coin is dark, porous, and “dry” looking, which is how many electrotypes look, but that could also describe lots of early cents.
However, there looks to be exposed white metal at a few of the high points, especially on the chain on the reverse. My guess would be that you are correct that it’s an electrotype.
I am far from an expert on early US coins, though, so I look forward to reading other responses.
The little bumps in the second pic are a red flag to me. They appear to be all over the surfaces as well. I would say it is.
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do people collect electrotypes?
Yes. For some issues, not this one, the electrotypes can sell for more than the actual coins in similar condition.
Yes, they do. I had an electrotype of the Libertas Americana medal before I owned the real thing. I think I paid $45 for it and sold it $55. I think I've seen them offered for a few hundred now. >
@jmlanzaf said:
Acturally there are EAC people who buy electrotypes of rare date large cents. They have sold them in the EAC auctions. They were really impressive electrotypes, however, which were perfectly executed with the proper edges (vines and bars, for example) and no worn spots in the plating. I think that they must be what is called "drop in electrotypes" with the rims copied and the obverese or reverse "dropped into" the shell.
From an old thread, from @Sonorandesertrat. It sounds like the coin in question matches these diagnostics:
_ few hints that a piece is likely an electrotype:
1. A thin seam along the edge. Sometimes 5x magnification is needed to spot this, particularly if the maker tried to cover it up by burnishing.
2. Electrotypes were made from two thin electroformed shells (obverse and reverse) that had to be joined together after a filler was added (usually lead). The weight will not match that of a genuine piece.
3. Most electrotypes have surface blemishes: some of the filler peeks through a hole in one of the shells, especially if there is wear as a result of careless handling.
4. There may be surface imperfections (blems or pimples) on one or both sides that result from bubbling during the electroplating process itself. Pieces that look 'as made' (analogous to mint state) will not be lustrous._
That tells you everything you need to know. Most electrotypes are filled with lead which is much denser than copper.
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Do you see the gray base metal all over the edge where the copper is worn off?
Yes, great base metal is evident.
Electrotypes do not “ring” like a coin when dropped. Under XRF an electrotype is 100% pure copper.
Electrotype yet still expensive with a full date and strong devices.
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