Buffalo nickel proof book
kevinj
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Finished restrike book
Now working on the Buffalo nickel proof book that I started long ago
Curious if anyone wants to help or has ideas on these
Thanks
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Might be a pretty short book since there are only a few proof coins in the set. Maybe add other proof coins in the era???
Including the 1927 and 36 and 37, also going back and do a complete history on the beginning of the series, not sure if I will find many diagnostics, but looking forward to finding out
I can provide you with die diagnostics for the dies that struck the 1937 Cameo nickels.
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That would be assume, thanks
Anyone have a raw buffalo nickel matte proof
Need to photograph to rim and borders
Thanks
What Proof nickel was issued in 1927? The last Matte Proof was issued in 1916, and series didn’t resume until 1936.
Allegedly
There is a few 27 that pcgs have designated SP but with the variance of hammered BSs out to include surfaces, I am not sure how one gets there without documentation.
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
Here’s a recent description of one:
“1927 Buffalo Nickel, SP65
Probably Struck From Chromium-Plated Dies
One of Only Six Pieces Known
1927 5C SP65 PCGS. CAC. Six remarkable 1927 Buffalo nickels appeared on the numismatic scene about 35 years ago, all with fully struck design elements and satiny matte surfaces, reminiscent of the finish used on the proof nickels of 1913 to 1916 and early 1936. Three of these coins were held by coin dealer Robert Rhue, who sold one in a private transaction and consigned the other two to the auction of the George A. Dickenson Collection (Harmer Rooke, 6/1989), where they appeared as part of lot 386, a bulk lot of Buffalo nickels. The other three special nickels were purchased by Heritage Co-Chairman James Halperin at a coin sale in 1989. Both PCGS and NGC consider these six special coins Specimen strikings today.
The source of these pieces was unknown. In his United States Proof Coins, Volume II: Nickel, John Dannreuther notes that these coins may have come from the estate of John Sinnock. Sinnock was a "quiet and unassuming" man, according to Neil Harris, former editor of The Numismatist, but he was "always trying new things." Much of Sinnock's collection was consigned to the joint ANA-CNA auction conducted by Kelly and Charlton in Detroit in 1962. It is possible that three of the Specimen 1927 Buffalo nickels were included in lot 352 of that sale, but that remains uncertain.
One of the problems encountered when these coins first appeared is that they were totally unsuspected. There is no actual documentation that says such coins were struck. No one knew they existed. And yet when they appeared the physical evidence from the coins themselves was incontrovertible. When John Albanese, then of NGC, examined the coins, he stated: "I could have sworn they were Proof." However, "It's terribly hard to call them a Proof without any backup. ... We couldn't call them Uncirculated or a Proof. They are definitely something special. We felt classifying them as Specimen was the proper thing to do."
Jim Halperin purchased two of the coins from an unspecified source. His impression at the time was noted in a Coin World article shortly after purchase: "Two of the coins came to me as standard MS-65s, but when I examined them, I was impressed by their extraordinary texture. It reminded me of the Satin Finish Proofs minted in 1936, but to see texture like that on a 1927 mintage was unbelievable! It didn't seem possible."
The first breakthrough in discovering the origin of these coins came from an entry in the 1928 Report of the Director of the Mint: "At the Philadelphia Mint a chromium plating plant has been installed and is being used for greatly improving the wearing qualities of dies, coin collars, machinery parts and models." George Hunter at the Philadelphia Mint said chromium-plated dies had been used on U.S. proof coinage since 1972, and he said these dies left telltale signs when they were used. Chromium-plated dies show microcracking in a "crazing pattern." In more common parlance, coins struck from such dies show a "dry riverbed look" in the fields. This microcracking is very subtle and is more easily seen toward the edge of the coin in the thin area between the light and dark areas of the coin's surface. Strong magnification is also required, he suggested between 10x and 50x. The six coins all had evidence of microcracking.
It is our opinion that these Specimen strikings most closely conform to Dr. Judd's definition of an experimental coin which:
" ... include those struck with any convenient dies to try out a new metal, such as aluminum, a new alloy, such as goloid, or a new denomination; those which represent a new shape, such as the ring-dollars; those which represent a new use of an accepted metal, such as nickel for a ten-cent piece; and those representing changes in planchets for the purpose of preventing counterfeiting, sweating, filling or the clipping of the edges of the coins. Those struck in the proper metal, where it is specified, are experimental pieces ... ."
While these pieces do not neatly fit into any of the categories listed by Dr. Judd, one can easily see that coins struck from a new process would fit into the experimental coin category.
The striking details on this piece are, of course, beyond reproach. No trace of weakness can be seen on either side. The coin displays all the necessary features to qualify it as a Satin Finish proof. Each side shows lovely light blue and rose colored toning. This particular coin can be distinguished from the others known by the presence of a tiny spot on the end of the Indian's nose, a cluster of carbon specks below the chin, and several in the reverse field that are no higher than the bison's hooves. Overall eye appeal is terrific and the high quality within the grade is confirmed by CAC. This coin is pictured on PCGS CoinFacts and is the plate coin for John Dannreuther's United States Proof Coins, Volume II: Nickel. Population: 1 in 65, 3 finer. CAC: 2 in 65, 0 finer (9/24).
Ex: Jim Halperin; Larry Whitlow; Andy Lustig; Jeff Notrica; Central States Signature (Heritage, 4/2009), lot 2168.“
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
They are PCGS certified and called specimen coins. They have satin proof surfaces, unbelievable squared rims, and full complete strikes. They are shown on PCGS CoinFacts, compare them to the top graded 1927 MS coins, so much better in strike. It is believed that they came from the 1962 retired John Sinnock estate sale, where there were 10 Buffalo nickels in a lot, including 3 from 1927. Sinncok was known to have created several commemorative proofs for his collection. At least one of the 1927 Buffalo nickels proofs sold in a Heritage auction for $45K.
I agree that there should be documentation, but IMO in this case the actual coins speak for themselves.
https://coins.ha.com/itm/proof-buffalo-nickels/1927-special-strike-5c-sp65-pcgs/a/1124-2168.s
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1927-5c-special-strike/3987
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Here's a Matte I shot a while back. I only took one image of the edge so it's slightly out of focus but gets much better towards the bottom of the shot.
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great, can you do a side by side of a Matte and a business strike please
At this point it seems unlikely. I no longer have the Matte in my possession.
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