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The disappointing 2024 Red Sox and the expected fall out.

MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,830 ✭✭✭✭✭
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It remains an enigma to me that Breslow, etal would reup Cora for 3 more years. This afte LAST PLACE, LAST PLACE, FOURTH PLACE. It's as though they want to promote mediocrity. Of course you will find many rah, rah BS for 2025 will all the necessary platitudes. Six employees are now gone, too bad Cora didn't join the bunch. My spark for this team is just about gone. John Henry, who's net worth exceeds $6B, obviously has little desire to open his wallet.

I predicted failure back in April/May. I predict a medicore performance for some time to come. Sad to say.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/red-sox-dismiss-six-coaches-as-fans-fume-after-third-straight-disappointing-season/ar-AA1s2aik

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dismissing coaches just sn't going to cut it for me, I want Henry to open up the wallet and spend some money on quality players when possible

    It's disgusting to me that they are letting the Yankees fight the Orioles for the division and we are just treating water for a n outside shot at a wildcard spot that we missed

  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,830 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can't help but to think Henry looks at the Red Sox as a cash cow, and his real interests lie elsewhere. Bad contracts in the past have probably soured him, but I really blame those on Dombrowski and O'Halloran who green lighted, or didn't when opportunities were in front of them. I still believe the downhill slide began when they let Mookie get away...the list is long and painful to read. I wonder why it seems so easy for us to see, but they eagerly signed millions away for little to no effort. Just look at the deal Sandoval got and what the Red Sox got in return. I just don't get it. Yet, somehow they appear to reward inept management, 3 years running not even having a remote shot.

    Gonna be really hard for me to believe in "wait till next year". And NO, I don't want to know when the trucks are leaving Fenway for Ft Myers!!

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,944 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks like Henry has turned into the Tom Yawkey of the early 1960s. He didn’t care what the attendance was, he just put a team on the field.

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  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭✭

    @MCMLVTopps said:
    Can't help but to think Henry looks at the Red Sox as a cash cow, and his real interests lie elsewhere. Bad contracts in the past have probably soured him, but I really blame those on Dombrowski and O'Halloran who green lighted, or didn't when opportunities were in front of them. I still believe the downhill slide began when they let Mookie get away...the list is long and painful to read. I wonder why it seems so easy for us to see, but they eagerly signed millions away for little to no effort. Just look at the deal Sandoval got and what the Red Sox got in return. I just don't get it. Yet, somehow they appear to reward inept management, 3 years running not even having a remote shot.

    Gonna be really hard for me to believe in "wait till next year". And NO, I don't want to know when the trucks are leaving Fenway for Ft Myers!!

    Dombrowski is an aggressive gm/president in a good way. Hes a win now guy that has a good history of bringing championships or getting really close when hes allowed to spend. He got the Marlins one early in their history, had the Tigers in the mix for several years and got the Red Sox one.

    He was probably fired for them being caught doing sign stealing while he was there even though there was no wrong doing found on his part which may or may not be true. Getting rid of him was certainly a mistake and now he has the Phillies in the mix every year.

    Missouri 14 OSU 3

  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,830 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Basebal21 said:

    Dombrowski is an aggressive gm/president in a good way. Hes a win now guy that has a good history of bringing championships or getting really close when hes allowed to spend. He got the Marlins one early in their history, had the Tigers in the mix for several years and got the Red Sox one.

    He was probably fired for them being caught doing sign stealing while he was there even though there was no wrong doing found on his part which may or may not be true. Getting rid of him was certainly a mistake and now he has the Phillies in the mix every year.

    I disagree...Dombrowski, IMO did little to improve the Red Sox. The link will list name after name after name of nobody players that he appeared to tinker with, Eovaldi, Sale and one or two others stand out. I have zero interest on what he did elsewhere, only interested in what he did, or didn't do when steering the Red Sox. He did zero to win anything, he didn't hit, run, catch, only hoped his contracts would turn out well. I submit the list is long of names nobody remembers, or recalls for any standout play, whether in the bullpen, or a position player. You can have this guy!

    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/04/revisiting-dave-dombrowskis-red-sox-trades.html

  • DocBenjaminDocBenjamin Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Best when the owner is also a fan. Not often possible when the price of admission is several billion dollars. Good luck.

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭✭

    @MCMLVTopps said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    Dombrowski is an aggressive gm/president in a good way. Hes a win now guy that has a good history of bringing championships or getting really close when hes allowed to spend. He got the Marlins one early in their history, had the Tigers in the mix for several years and got the Red Sox one.

    He was probably fired for them being caught doing sign stealing while he was there even though there was no wrong doing found on his part which may or may not be true. Getting rid of him was certainly a mistake and now he has the Phillies in the mix every year.

    I disagree...Dombrowski, IMO did little to improve the Red Sox. The link will list name after name after name of nobody players that he appeared to tinker with, Eovaldi, Sale and one or two others stand out. I have zero interest on what he did elsewhere, only interested in what he did, or didn't do when steering the Red Sox. He did zero to win anything, he didn't hit, run, catch, only hoped his contracts would turn out well. I submit the list is long of names nobody remembers, or recalls for any standout play, whether in the bullpen, or a position player. You can have this guy!

    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/04/revisiting-dave-dombrowskis-red-sox-trades.html

    I would trade Preller for him in a heart beat. The only reason why I bring up what hes also done elsewhere is that hes been successful everywhere hes been, even tough places like the Expos and a new franchise like the Marlins. Then put the Tigers back on the map, brought another WS to the Red Sox and has Philly contending now too.

    Eovaldi played a big role role in that 2018 WS title being lights out in the post season and Sale played a massive role in it too. Moncada and Kopech seemed like a steep price at the time, but both turned out to be busts especially Moncada who really should just be a bench player at best at this point.

    I dont count the 2020 season since it wasnt even half a season, but things went down hill after he was fired

    Missouri 14 OSU 3

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