A high grade 1839 Gobrecht Dollar
BillJones
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I bought this piece a last's week's "Great American Collectables Show" that was held in Tampa. I didn't come to the show with this piece in mind, but I had been looking at them for a number of years. This is the rarer "second type" of Gobrecht Dollars with 13 stars on the obverse and the eagle on the reverse flying in a clear field.
Gobrecht modified his design after the powers in charge decided that the "No Stars" half dimes and dimes didn't look right. He also removed his signature from the base of the Liberty Seated design.
This piece is an alignment III restrike. I have been unable to find the die breaks on this piece that label it as a restrike, but maybe it's just me. If it had been an alignment IV coin (the obverse and reverse dies aligned in the "medal strike" position - turning on the vertical axis.), the price would have been a good deal higher. Ironically, the alignment III coins are rarer than the alignment IV piece, but are less desirable because of their restrike status. NGC graded this piece PR-65.
Here is the 1836 original strike piece which I have owned for a number years. There were 1,000 of these pieces minted at the end of 1836, and they are now considered to be a regular issue, type coin.
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That's a super nice coin to me by any means, I like 👍
Out of curiosity what did it grade at? Peace ✌️ ☮️
Stunning. Both of them.
The 1839 is a PR-65 and the 1836 is a PR-62, CAC.
Dream coin, no matter version. Maybe someday.
Congratulations Bill.
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
Weren't the 1836 coins actually released into circulation?
Always have been a dream of mine to own any of these rare, wonderful pieces. Congratulations on both of your amazing dollars. Maybe someday.
A fantastic pair of coins.
Wow. Bill-you did it this time, what an addition to an already stellar collection. Congrats.
Jim
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A dream coin.
It is a sincere pleasure to read a valued member here has obtained one.
peacockcoins
Beautiful coins! Classic US coinage really is impressive for their aesthetics.
Those are great coins to own — especially like the look of the 1839.
I had an AU 58 Gobrecht for a few years that was nice for the grade but I sold it to free up some cash. One of those sales I am already regretting.
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.
Yes, they were, 1,000 of them, plus there were supposed to be 600 additional 1836 dated pieces in 1837. The experts are debating the alignment of the dies on those. Most think it's a medal turn with the eagle flying "onward and upward."
There were also 300, 1939 dated pieces pieces placed in circulation.
I had an 1836 in PR-60 with the eagle flying horizontally when the coin was given a medal turn. That is alignment IV. I sold that coin when I bought the PR-62. The PR-60 was called a restrike.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Nice coin!
All3 are way cool 😎
Nice!
I can’t speak because my tongue is on the floor. Beautiful example. Stunning!
Having fun while switching things up and focusing on a next level PCGS slabbed 1950+ type set, while still looking for great examples for the 7070.
What are your thoughts about the toning?
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
Maybe dipped at some point … does it matter? It looks okay now, and sometimes “original,” often means “original now,” is not all it’s cracked up to be. There was a piece, two grading points lower that sold for $10,000 more in an auction at the time I bought this piece.
If you could see the toning on many 185 year old never dipped coins, you would never buy them.
I'm pretty sure this one has never been dipped but it's only 148 years old. I have mixed feelings about it but it's as original as they come.
Great coin. Good job
Nothing wrong with the look on that coin, Lermish.
I think we would all be surprised by how few coins from the 18th and 19th century are “original.” That’s a long time and likely many collector and dealer hands for a coin to go through without one or two looking to “improve” the coin.
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.
Very nice Coins! The 1836 no stars obverse with Eagle flying among stars reverse has always been one of my favorite coins ever.
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
Especially such as classic rarities that have been collectible for as long as those have. Dream coin for many of us, congrats
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
Very nice indeed Bill
Thanks for sharing
Mike
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Danco Set
Congratulations!
Such an elegant look. All of the fields look exceptionally clear.
Thanks for sharing your stars version, too.
What a great pair.
Great looking coins and glad that they are together. Congrats Bill.
Boy, that's really pretty.
I love that eagle. It looks like it flew onto the cent in 1856.......
Don't touch those rims. You may cut yourself.