@harasha said:
For those who don't know, explain why this is called the "rose" guinea.
Supposedly because the cost of arms on the reverse looks like a rose, somehow?
(I don’t really see it, myself.)
The later “Spade” guineas had a shield-shaped coat of arms on the reverse that is sorta shaped like … you guessed it… a spade. (That comparison I can see.)
Crazily enough the halfpenny, the shilling and the guinea are very similar in size. Other than a spade guinea I picked up here on the BST I have not really ventured into these.
Nice example Rob!
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@lermish said:
Very nice! I just added one also, after looking for a while and a couple of auction losses. Just got put in the mail today by Heritage.
Oh, yes! I was watching your coin. Great historical date! I also like the orangey toning on it. I was tempted to bid myself, but that would have meant paying out of pocket. So I let (yours) go and got the coin above via a swap, instead.
A more modern gold coin: a 1965 Peruvian 50-soles piece.
I recently acquired the larger 1965 Peruvian 100-soles piece (over 1.3 oz of gold!) so I felt like I no longer needed the 50-soles with the same design. The spot value of the gold in the 50-soles was roughly equivalent to what Atlas Numismatics was asking for the 1781 guinea. So I swapped with them. The guinea doesn’t have as much bullion as the modern Peruvian coin did, but it’s got a lot more history.
For those who are wondering what a "spade guinea" is.
I purchased this piece from a great Boston collector, Leonard Finn's, estate many years ago. The date was the reason why he and I purchased it.
Mr. Finn owned one of the 1690 Massachusetts notes which were the first pieces of paper money issued in the western world.
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Would appreciate if anyone here would recommend a book or site about British Maunday coins. Would like to be able to identify the difference between Maunday pieces and regular coinage of the same year.
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For those who don't know, explain why this is called the "rose" guinea.
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Supposedly because the cost of arms on the reverse looks like a rose, somehow?
(I don’t really see it, myself.)
The later “Spade” guineas had a shield-shaped coat of arms on the reverse that is sorta shaped like … you guessed it… a spade. (That comparison I can see.)
Big thumbs up Rob.
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Very nice! I just added one also, after looking for a while and a couple of auction losses. Just got put in the mail today by Heritage.
Love it. I really wanted a pattern shilling of that design.
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A nice coin.
Crazily enough the halfpenny, the shilling and the guinea are very similar in size. Other than a spade guinea I picked up here on the BST I have not really ventured into these.
Nice example Rob!
Oh, yes! I was watching your coin. Great historical date! I also like the orangey toning on it. I was tempted to bid myself, but that would have meant paying out of pocket. So I let (yours) go and got the coin above via a swap, instead.
This, BTW, was what I swapped for the 1781 guinea above:
https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/8207580-012/66/
A more modern gold coin: a 1965 Peruvian 50-soles piece.
I recently acquired the larger 1965 Peruvian 100-soles piece (over 1.3 oz of gold!) so I felt like I no longer needed the 50-soles with the same design. The spot value of the gold in the 50-soles was roughly equivalent to what Atlas Numismatics was asking for the 1781 guinea. So I swapped with them. The guinea doesn’t have as much bullion as the modern Peruvian coin did, but it’s got a lot more history.
@lordmarcovan I like the DOG look on yours and of course great AU58 detail!!
I appreciate you not bidding me up! I had to pay up for the date anyway but I have a little mini-set of 1776 World Gold and this was a key add for me.
I was the underbidder on this one but @CoinRaritiesOnline refused to let me have it https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-17B30A/great-britain-guinea-1776-london-mint-george-iii-ngc-ms-62 Fair enough, it did get a + but I still think about it.
1776 World gold is a cool theme!
Beautiful coin m'lord!
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Nice coin-I like the image that you shared
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For those who are wondering what a "spade guinea" is.
I purchased this piece from a great Boston collector, Leonard Finn's, estate many years ago. The date was the reason why he and I purchased it.
Mr. Finn owned one of the 1690 Massachusetts notes which were the first pieces of paper money issued in the western world.
Would appreciate if anyone here would recommend a book or site about British Maunday coins. Would like to be able to identify the difference between Maunday pieces and regular coinage of the same year.