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Newp: 1781 Great Britain “Rose” guinea of George III

Coming my way in a swap. This is my first “Rose” type guinea. Previously I’ve owned one George III “Spade” type guinea.


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  • harashaharasha Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For those who don't know, explain why this is called the "rose" guinea.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,562 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 19, 2024 7:06AM

    @harasha said:
    For those who don't know, explain why this is called the "rose" guinea.

    Supposedly because the cost of arms on the reverse looks like a rose, somehow?

    (I don’t really see it, myself.)

    The later “Spade” guineas had a shield-shaped coat of arms on the reverse that is sorta shaped like … you guessed it… a spade. (That comparison I can see.)


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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,398 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Big thumbs up Rob.


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  • ClioClio Posts: 548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Love it. I really wanted a pattern shilling of that design.

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  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Really cool!

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  • goldengolden Posts: 9,667 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A nice coin.

  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Crazily enough the halfpenny, the shilling and the guinea are very similar in size. Other than a spade guinea I picked up here on the BST I have not really ventured into these.

    Nice example Rob!

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,562 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lermish said:
    Very nice! I just added one also, after looking for a while and a couple of auction losses. Just got put in the mail today by Heritage.


    Oh, yes! I was watching your coin. Great historical date! I also like the orangey toning on it. I was tempted to bid myself, but that would have meant paying out of pocket. So I let (yours) go and got the coin above via a swap, instead.


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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,562 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 19, 2024 10:46PM

    This, BTW, was what I swapped for the 1781 guinea above:

    https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/8207580-012/66/

    A more modern gold coin: a 1965 Peruvian 50-soles piece.

    I recently acquired the larger 1965 Peruvian 100-soles piece (over 1.3 oz of gold!) so I felt like I no longer needed the 50-soles with the same design. The spot value of the gold in the 50-soles was roughly equivalent to what Atlas Numismatics was asking for the 1781 guinea. So I swapped with them. The guinea doesn’t have as much bullion as the modern Peruvian coin did, but it’s got a lot more history.


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  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 20, 2024 5:40AM

    @lordmarcovan I like the DOG look on yours and of course great AU58 detail!!

    I appreciate you not bidding me up! I had to pay up for the date anyway but I have a little mini-set of 1776 World Gold and this was a key add for me.

    I was the underbidder on this one but @CoinRaritiesOnline refused to let me have it :'(https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-17B30A/great-britain-guinea-1776-london-mint-george-iii-ngc-ms-62 Fair enough, it did get a + but I still think about it. :s

  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,562 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lermish said:
    @lordmarcovan I like the DOG look on yours and of course great AU58 detail!!

    I appreciate you not bidding me up! I had to pay up for the date anyway but I have a little mini-set of 1776 World Gold and this was a key add for me.

    I was the underbidder on this one but @CoinRaritiesOnline refused to let me have it :'(https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-17B30A/great-britain-guinea-1776-london-mint-george-iii-ngc-ms-62 Fair enough, it did get a + but I still think about it. :s

    1776 World gold is a cool theme!


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  • Beautiful coin m'lord!

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,226 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin-I like the image that you shared

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  • shortnockshortnock Posts: 414 ✭✭✭

    Would appreciate if anyone here would recommend a book or site about British Maunday coins. Would like to be able to identify the difference between Maunday pieces and regular coinage of the same year.

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