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1817 Over 3 Half Dollar

I'm a fan of overdates and couldn't resist the chance to pick this one up this weekend, even with the rim ding and uneven strike on the reverse. Would love to know what possessed the mint employee to put the 3 there in the first place.


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  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Because the die was made in 1813 by John Reich.

  • sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 2,870 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The "3" was correctly put in it's proper place. The overdate occurred when it was only partly removed (or not at all) before punching the "7" in the die to reuse it for 1817 dated halves.

    Collector and dealer in obsolete currency. Always buying all obsolete bank notes and scrip.
  • NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Overdates can be from a leftover unused die (one exception on .50 1806/5 O.104 was a used 1805 die), or they can be from a mistake - accidentally punching the previous year and then overdating to correct it. The 1817/3 is from a leftover die because that obverse die was sunk from the hub that was used in 1812-1815. However, it could have been from a die made in 1814 and mistakenly punched 1813 and then temporarily discarded, because the obverse dentil count place it more consistently with dies made in 1814.

    More explanation is given in an article available on the NNP, John Reich Journal October 1993 "Obverse Dentil Analysis, Part I - Capped Bust Halves, 1807-1819."

    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
  • These used to be fairly easy to find and I bought and sold quite a few from the late 1990s through say 2010s. Now, I suspect they're being hoarded. I own only two myself and have just one more in inventory :disappointed: .

    James at EarlyUS.com

    On the web: http://www.earlyus.com
  • Pnies20Pnies20 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ve never owned one 😭

    BHNC #248 … 130 and counting.

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