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1831 Bust Half : What Would You Grade This ?

dhikewhitneydhikewhitney Posts: 466 ✭✭✭✭
edited September 6, 2024 6:52PM in U.S. Coin Forum


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  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's not really a "guess the grade" unless it's TPG certified. Otherwise it's more like "what do you think this grades".

  • dhikewhitneydhikewhitney Posts: 466 ✭✭✭✭

    You’re right

  • Davidk7Davidk7 Posts: 343 ✭✭✭✭

    @Manifest_Destiny said:
    It's not really a "guess the grade" unless it's TPG certified. Otherwise it's more like "what do you think this grades".

    Good thing they asked "What would you grade this" :o

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  • Davidk7Davidk7 Posts: 343 ✭✭✭✭

    EF40 Details, if that's graffiti in the obv field. On a bad day I might call it a conservative 35.

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  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Davidk7 said:

    @Manifest_Destiny said:
    It's not really a "guess the grade" unless it's TPG certified. Otherwise it's more like "what do you think this grades".

    Good thing they asked "What would you grade this" :o

    Edited.

  • Davidk7Davidk7 Posts: 343 ✭✭✭✭

    @Manifest_Destiny said:

    @Davidk7 said:

    @Manifest_Destiny said:
    It's not really a "guess the grade" unless it's TPG certified. Otherwise it's more like "what do you think this grades".

    Good thing they asked "What would you grade this" :o

    Edited.

    Lmaooo thanks for letting me know, I missed that part

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  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Davidk7 said:

    @Manifest_Destiny said:

    @Davidk7 said:

    @Manifest_Destiny said:
    It's not really a "guess the grade" unless it's TPG certified. Otherwise it's more like "what do you think this grades".

    Good thing they asked "What would you grade this" :o

    Edited.

    Lmaooo thanks for letting me know, I missed that part

    Rookie mistake, always check for edits. We’ll let it slide, this time.

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  • TypekatTypekat Posts: 416 ✭✭✭✭

    I’m not quite seeing graffiti, just a couple of scratches.
    Call it old time VF35, with a shot at EF

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  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hopefully you are not buying these Bust halves thinking you can get them into a straight graded PCGS holder. I can't tell what your collecting strategy is because your profile is marked "private."

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,160 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a high VF, possibly XF, coin. It's darkly toned but I don't see anything in these images that would prevent a straight-grade.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    maybe 35/40, thats just a guess

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,018 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I feel it would grade as an XF40 as an O-106. Then that's just my opinion.
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  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭✭✭

    35

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  • dhikewhitneydhikewhitney Posts: 466 ✭✭✭✭

    @DisneyFan said:
    Hopefully you are not buying these Bust halves thinking you can get them into a straight graded PCGS holder. I can't tell what your collecting strategy is because your profile is marked "private."

    Oh, I didn’t fill out a profile, but no I am not buying these halves thinking I can get them into PCGS, or even ANACS holders, much less problem free holders. I am trying to learn about grading and how some cleaning is tolerable on older coins though.

    1. They aren’t really worth slabbing not being rare or expensive enough to warrant third party grading.

    2. My focus is on historically interesting, budget oriented, and good value coins without a large markup. They don’t look bad in hand for what they are.

  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dhikewhitney, good for you. If that’s what you’re interested in, enjoy your hobby. Everyone has their own tastes so do your own thing. Don’t be swayed and collect what you like. But above all, have fun.

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,538 ✭✭✭✭✭

    35

  • jp84jp84 Posts: 205 ✭✭✭

    25

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF-30 to 35. It should never make EF-40, but these days …

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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,397 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ch. VF and attractive coin IMO.


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  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am trying to learn about grading and how some cleaning is tolerable on older coins though.

    1. They aren’t really worth slabbing not being rare or expensive enough to warrant third party grading.

    2. My focus is on historically interesting, budget oriented, and good value coins without a large markup. They don’t look bad in hand for what they are.

    Bust halves are neat coins; but, they are no longer inexpensive. Being as you say, "Historically interesting," I expect their values will increase over time. You are looking at the prime grades of VF & EF and they warrant being in PCGS holders. There are too many unknowables with raw coins in those grades. A cleaned coin will become less desirable if the market continues to navigate to quality.

    Obviously I'm biased; but, this is a PCGS forum. The one Bust half I bought years ago from a non collector for just a few dollars turned out to be a straight graded XF40 and that was just pure luck.

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