1853 seated dime counterfeit question.
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In your opinion, is this dime a modern counterfeit or contemporary? The date looks horrible and it looks like it has been replayed after being corroded. Is there any know contemporary counterfeits for this date?
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It looks like a crude casting from the 19th century. A modern counterfeiter, who is looking to fool collectors, would need to do better. I’ve seen stuff like this before. I inherited a cast Morgan Dollar from my in-laws that have to be a contemporary counterfeit.
This might be a long post 🤔
Just to follow up, I think that this counterfeit Pillar Dollar was from "back in the day."
The date digit shapes are correct, and the date position looks similar to F-114.
So I am not sure why you say it is "horrible".
from
https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date_mintmark/1853wa_114page.htm
A copy of a real coin will have the devices in the right places. That's why knowing die varieties won't protect you from Chinese counterfeits. They are the illegitimate children of real coins.
Sure, if it is a die created from an actual coin, and they did not try to alter the date,
the positions should match the source coin.
The Chinese counterfeit dimes that are easy to spot have the wrong digit shapes.
Usually because they are placing a different date on the die,
and did not bother to get a source coin with the target date.
Above is a current example of this type of cruder counterfeit on aliexpress.com, on sale for 76 cents.
The arrow shapes easily detect this one, and the flag on the 5 is another marker.
Whay do you mean?
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Yes:
https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/cf_date/cf_date_mintmark.htm
I was thinking that there might be many postings, looks like I was wrong,
A cast or transfer die contemporary counterfeit would have a date that looks identical to the coin it was copied from. A contemporary hand engraved counterfeit die would have more than just the date appear wonky. My guess would be this could be a modern counterfeit with added date, just better than the AliExpress example.