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Grade opinions........raw high grade 1937-d 3-legged Buffalo.

DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,313 ✭✭✭✭✭

Your opinions are appreciated and I'm sure there will be a wide range of grades because of my poor pictures.

All pictures are of the same coin.







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  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,343 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seems to be at least 58 details, but some of the images make it look polished or burnished.
    But it’s a genuine 3-legger.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,133 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU details---cleaned or lightly polished. At least it looks genuine.

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  • Black.DiamondBlack.Diamond Posts: 113 ✭✭✭

    Maybe it is the pics but it looks cleaned to me. MS details.

  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First three pics make it look original- I'll guess 64.

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Give poor Black Diamond a break! The coin is genuine but there is a whole lot more than usual of the front leg missing. The hoof should be showing. Looks like more than usual of the bottom feather is also not there.

    If He's gonna have to hobble around on those stick legs, I have to give the coin an MS-63.

    Strange coin indeed!

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  • WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,509 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unc details cleaned/polished

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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    AU details, cleaned.

    Agree. Surfaces looked polished, or "buffed", to me.

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  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mr1931S said:

    @MFeld said:
    AU details, cleaned.

    Agree. Surfaces looked polished, or "buffed", to me.

    They buffed a buff! :D

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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to get a good read on this one. The sheen could be due to the lighting but assuming that's how it appears in hand I'd go with unc. details.


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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,222 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 27, 2024 11:15AM

    Looks cleaned, XF / AU Details. Buffed looking surfaces. Wonder what a problem coin dealer would offer for it. 40-50 pct XF money? Who knows as it’s a popular issue perhaps somebody buy it for their album.

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  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice AU, the surface appearance has me concerned it was polished.

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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,313 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Grade opinions have gradually gotten worse.

    Oh well, not the first time.

    Shipped yesterday to PCGS so I'll know in about 2 months time??

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    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

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  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Spot on nose worries me but my first guess was 58.

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  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,524 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Patina of coin looks off. See light wear on high points if you look closely, so I'd call it a slider. AU 58 detail grade.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,485 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DoubleEagle59 said:
    Grade opinions have gradually gotten worse.

    Oh well, not the first time.

    Shipped yesterday to PCGS so I'll know in about 2 months time??

    What grade opinions have gradually gotten worse?

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  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @DoubleEagle59 said:
    Grade opinions have gradually gotten worse.

    Oh well, not the first time.

    Shipped yesterday to PCGS so I'll know in about 2 months time??

    What grade opinions have gradually gotten worse?

    MS64
    AU details cleaned
    AU58 details polished/burnished?
    AU details cleaned
    MS details cleaned
    MS64
    MS63
    MS details cleaned/polished
    AU details polished/buffed
    ?? details buffed
    MS details ?
    XF/AU details cleaned/buffed
    AU details polished?

    It seems like the OP's grade estimate leans towards straight grade AU/MS, and not XF or details.
    Therefore when they say "grade opinions getting worse" it might mean "average grade getting lower"/"details % getting higher"

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,485 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @hummingbird_coins said:

    @MFeld said:

    @DoubleEagle59 said:
    Grade opinions have gradually gotten worse.

    Oh well, not the first time.

    Shipped yesterday to PCGS so I'll know in about 2 months time??

    What grade opinions have gradually gotten worse?

    MS64
    AU details cleaned
    AU58 details polished/burnished?
    AU details cleaned
    MS details cleaned
    MS64
    MS63
    MS details cleaned/polished
    AU details polished/buffed
    ?? details buffed
    MS details ?
    XF/AU details cleaned/buffed
    AU details polished?

    It seems like the OP's grade estimate leans towards straight grade AU/MS, and not XF or details.
    Therefore when they say "grade opinions getting worse" it might mean "average grade getting lower"/"details % getting higher"

    The images provided certainly didn’t make for a meaningful guess the grade thread.

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  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    The images provided certainly didn’t make for a meaningful guess the grade thread.

    Hopefully the grade given by PCGS can be used to sharpen our coin grading skills from below average images. Until then, it's (almost) anyone's guess.

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  • vplite99vplite99 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Genuine.

    Vplite99

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