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I didn't win "The Amoeba" Kennedy - thoughts on this coin?

U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

I found this Kennedy interesting and bid it up near the end but was short. Anyone else find the look interesting or am I better off being the underbidder?




https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1640205/1976-S-Kennedy-Half-Dollar-Clad-PCGS-Proof-68-CAMEO-Toned

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  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    tagging @braddick since I figure this might have been up his alley?

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Better off being the underbidder. Environmental damage going on with this piece.

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  • air4mdcair4mdc Posts: 901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It sure screams AT. I’m a Kennedy guy, but this one doesn’t do anything for me. Interesting looking though.

  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,159 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You're better off without it, IMO

  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Better you than me.

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  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 1,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mr1931S said:
    Better off being the underbidder. Environmental damage going on with this piece.

    Even better off being the consignor ;)

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GoldenEgg said:

    @mr1931S said:
    Better off being the underbidder. Environmental damage going on with this piece.

    Even better off being the consignor ;)

    The consignor might have done ok but I wouldn't say it is much of a score.
    Take the 60.89 price before buyer's fee (since the b.p. goes to GC for coins under $1k) and subtract the 5% selling fee. You are at 57.85. If there were grading costs, that would be around $20 more (give or take some depending on the type of submission). You are down to 37.85. And then there is however much the raw coin cost. Even if it was face value, that nets the consignor 37.35. Or it is 57.85 minus whatever they paid for it slabbed (if they did not have to grade it). Either way, it's decent but nothing to write home about.

  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nasty looking coin IMHO

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,946 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @U1chicago said:
    tagging @braddick since I figure this might have been up his alley?

    I totally missed this one. I don't check with GC as much as I probably should.
    Like you though- I'd have dropped out kind of early.

    It'll be fun to check the PCGS coins submitted along with this one.

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  • No HeadlightsNo Headlights Posts: 2,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lots of beautiful coins out there. No reason to collect ugly.

  • Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Doesn't look natural. Not the type of toning ever seen.

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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And to think I submitted an absolutely LOVELY naturally toned Ike dollar hoping for and thinking solid 68, maybe even 69, but all it got was 67. A watershed moment for me. It was when I pretty much said to hell with grading numbers.

    Underbidder, recognize the feedback you are getting here as a kind of watershed moment for yourself. The Kennedy you didn't win deserves a dip in the bright sauce to rid itself of the unnatural toning that ails it.

    The good news is it's not your problem.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 33,928 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @U1chicago said:

    @GoldenEgg said:

    @mr1931S said:
    Better off being the underbidder. Environmental damage going on with this piece.

    Even better off being the consignor ;)

    The consignor might have done ok but I wouldn't say it is much of a score.
    Take the 60.89 price before buyer's fee (since the b.p. goes to GC for coins under $1k) and subtract the 5% selling fee. You are at 57.85. If there were grading costs, that would be around $20 more (give or take some depending on the type of submission). You are down to 37.85. And then there is however much the raw coin cost. Even if it was face value, that nets the consignor 37.35. Or it is 57.85 minus whatever they paid for it slabbed (if they did not have to grade it). Either way, it's decent but nothing to write home about.

    You've also got the $4.95 set up fee.

  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To each their own.
    I did not bid on this coin, nor would I consider it a coin that I would like in my collection.
    Wayne

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  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,091 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2024 5:35AM

    If what is going on with that half dollar instead was on a person's skin he or she would be placed into an isolation ward, quarantined and treated by a medical team specializing in limiting the spread of biohazards.

    That coin is muy feyo.

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's corroded to hell. And I'll bet CAC will sticker it. They like environmental damage.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,110 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Perhaps it may look better in hand... but from the photos, that is one fuggly looking coin. Would have no desire to have it in my collection.

    ----- kj
  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No need to pay $60 for this... just take a 1976 proof set and leave it in a wet basement for a couple years and you'll have an amoeba coin year set.


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  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2024 7:11AM

    If the surfaces are OK then there would be no environmental damage.

    But there is definitely questionable coloring. And its ugly.

  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 1,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @U1chicago said:

    @GoldenEgg said:

    @mr1931S said:
    Better off being the underbidder. Environmental damage going on with this piece.

    Even better off being the consignor ;)

    The consignor might have done ok but I wouldn't say it is much of a score.
    Take the 60.89 price before buyer's fee (since the b.p. goes to GC for coins under $1k) and subtract the 5% selling fee. You are at 57.85. If there were grading costs, that would be around $20 more (give or take some depending on the type of submission). You are down to 37.85. And then there is however much the raw coin cost. Even if it was face value, that nets the consignor 37.35. Or it is 57.85 minus whatever they paid for it slabbed (if they did not have to grade it). Either way, it's decent but nothing to write home about.

    The consignor is lucky that it sold at any price. But yes, I get what you are saying.

    I try not to be critical of other’s collecting choices and I say these things in jest! This coin is an oddity, and that in itself makes it somewhat interesting.

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,066 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did Universal buy the film rights?

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ewwww.........

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  • goldengolden Posts: 9,560 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just butt ugly.

  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,291 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a flood victim to me (after slabbing). Yuck. I wouldn't even bid on that.

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  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Underwhelming at best. I’ve never seen toning progression like this, even on Peace dollars, which take on mottled toning.

    Maybe this Kennedy was improperly stored…

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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That Kennedy has COVID,,,,,,,, better put it in quarantine,,,,,,,

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  • Jacques_LoungecoqueJacques_Loungecoque Posts: 733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like straight trash.
    Luck was on your side.

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  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinscratch said:
    I had something similar that came from a compromised, sms mint set.
    You’re better off without it. I don’t think you can takeoff the green spots without removing the purple or blue.

    I like the look of that Quarter even with the spots.

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,639 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @U1chicago said:

    @Coinscratch said:
    I had something similar that came from a compromised, sms mint set.
    You’re better off without it. I don’t think you can takeoff the green spots without removing the purple or blue.

    I like the look of that Quarter even with the spots.

    Thanks I did too but sold it a while back on a 99 cent bay auction. If memory serves it brought a decent premium.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,112 ✭✭✭✭✭

    some people will pay for any color, even if unattractive

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 15,707 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:
    some people will pay for any color, even if unattractive

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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,300 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry, but definitely no interest.

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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2024 6:05AM

    Unique….. ….. …. .

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The GreatPhotos look good.

    But, the slab shot is atrocious.

    I'd be safe and PASS.

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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How on earth that coin made it into a straight graded holder I will never know. RGDS!

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fathom said:
    If the surfaces are OK then there would be no environmental damage.

    But there is definitely questionable coloring. And its ugly.

    The surfaces do not look OK. There appears to be shallow pitting over Kennedy's face, and black spots elsewhere on the coin. This is one of the ironies of grading coins these days. It's an art, not a science. Corroded coins are actually rewarded in this hobby, and this is a prime example.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Barberian said:

    @fathom said:
    If the surfaces are OK then there would be no environmental damage.

    But there is definitely questionable coloring. And its ugly.

    The surfaces do not look OK. There appears to be shallow pitting over Kennedy's face, and black spots elsewhere on the coin. This is one of the ironies of grading coins these days. It's an art, not a science. Corroded coins are actually rewarded in this hobby, and this is a prime example.

    The GreatPhoto shows zero pitting on Kennedy's face.

    This is definitely an in hand coin examination if of considerable value, which is not the case here.

    I just think it is off color and would not bid, but different strokes....

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fathom said:

    @Barberian said:

    @fathom said:
    If the surfaces are OK then there would be no environmental damage.

    But there is definitely questionable coloring. And its ugly.

    The surfaces do not look OK. There appears to be shallow pitting over Kennedy's face, and black spots elsewhere on the coin. This is one of the ironies of grading coins these days. It's an art, not a science. Corroded coins are actually rewarded in this hobby, and this is a prime example.

    The GreatPhoto shows zero pitting on Kennedy's face.

    This is definitely an in hand coin examination if of considerable value, which is not the case here.

    I just think it is off color and would not bid, but different strokes....

    Oh, OK. I see that the GreatPhoto shows the black spots were removed, leaving bright spots now on her face. :D Anyway, I still see what looks like shallow corrosion near the ear and black spots elsewhere. I see it often on coins, even CAC coins. I'll bet there's some granularity in those light stains as well.

    Sure, it would be definitive to see it in hand and examine it with one of my neutron microscopes, but I've seen enough in BOTH photos to know it's very likely going to be a coin with corrosion that I don't like.

    You are 100% correct, though, "Different strokes"
    And my comments could be entirely wrong as well as I cannot examine the coin in-hand.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • AtcarrollAtcarroll Posts: 399 ✭✭✭✭

    I don't really like it, looks like something was spilled on it.

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,639 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like the S/P Mm.

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Atcarroll said:
    I don't really like it, looks like something was spilled on it.

    Maybe someone vomited on it after a long night of drinking 50 Cent drafts. :D 🍺

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  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Should be "amoebae".

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