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Which 1889 CC Morgan?

TrampTramp Posts: 686 ✭✭✭✭✭

Without looking up each, which one doesn't grade a 63+ and what's holding it back from grading a 63+? Which one would you prefer to own given a choice?

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  • CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting thread. I like both. Personally, I like #1, but I’m a toner guy. I was told in the past by Morgan dealers that collectors prefer white for the 89-CC. That’s the one I would pick if I’m looking ahead to sell in the future.
    But I think it’s the one that’s not 63+ due to the cheek - more noise than #1. JMO.

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  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 14, 2024 8:34AM

    Top didn't grade higher due to small rim issues. Just my guess.
    I would prefer the bottom coin myself, graded higher or not, since to me the colors clash together in a way that I do not prefer. If it was way cheaper, then I would budge.
    Edit: the color might be from the trueview, and look different in person.

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  • coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, no loser there. I like the toned coin but seems like the bottom coin has better strike and reverse.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,865 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Kinda splitting hairs when it comes to same grade and only a plus + difference. ;)
    Either coin could get a plus or not get a plus on any given day.

    My guess would be the top one got the plus and I like it a little more than the other.

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    2 got the plus. #1 has too much going on around the ear, cheek.

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  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I prefer #2

  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think #2 gets the +

    BUT

    I personally would take #1 based on the original-looking toning, no matter the grade (within reason)...

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  • goldengolden Posts: 9,607 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow. Very tough choice. I cannot make up my mind.

  • Glen2022Glen2022 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭✭

    I like them both. I will PM you with the address to mail them to. LOL

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭✭✭

    2

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I prefer the second. It looks healthier to me, jmo 🙂

  • coinhackcoinhack Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭✭

    I think #2 did not get the plus because it has more hits/scuffs on both Liberty's face and on the Eagle.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 14, 2024 11:08AM

    1 has better eye appeal and character; the second looks to have stacking or other prior friction. (edit: why did my comment get doubled in size?)

  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,182 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the color and the strike on #1 better

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,865 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    (edit: why did my comment get doubled in size?)

    Because you put a pound sign before the number 1. ;)

  • RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1 by a mile

  • Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    2

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  • M4MadnessM4Madness Posts: 327 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 14, 2024 1:55PM

    No idea which one grades better, as I can't tell an MS 61 from a MS64, let alone a plus. LOL! I got an 1889-CC XF45 CAC in the mail today, and that's about the top of my budget for that particular coin, so a MS would be a dream. LOL!

    That said, I like the second one better as far as pics go.

  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 6,146 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 14, 2024 2:19PM

    I don't like toning which is an altered surface. I like the original surfaces of #2 and the surface preservation of #2 is better anyway. #1 photo looks OK but I bet in hand it's not so pretty. I'd take #2 all day.

    Edited to add:
    I looked up the registrations and got to see bigger/better photos. With a better photo I can see that #2 is not as clean as I originally thought; however, it is really nice for the grade it was given. Conversely, #1 does look better than I originally thought as far as surface preservation.

  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The first coin came out of an ANACS holder (has to be the same coin). A few plus years ago (at FUN as I recall) a dealer came back with an 89cc toned in ANACS holder. Therefore may have bought at a 'good' price. He thought it had a shot at an upgrade and/or PL as I recall. I was so so on that but I am not a fan of the toning sooo... Looks like he was correct. As best I remember the coin looks better than the TV makes it out to be.

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  • humanssuckhumanssuck Posts: 420 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1 looks like it is cleaner and the higher graded of the 2.

    I dont like its toning, i would buy #2 because it matches my set better.

  • BigAlBigAl Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭

    @RobertScotLover said:

    1 by a mile

    Agree, not even close. Better luster, better fields, much better eye appeal

  • LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,438 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like them both for different reasons.

  • mbogomanmbogoman Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Number 1. Pluses are awarded for eye appeal, and it has it in spades IMO...

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