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  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,395 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    How to Stop the BRICS Nations from Abandoning the Dollar

    "These nations have been driven to this extreme, time-consuming, and difficult project by clueless US leaders who have imposed sanctions on Russian assets (literally stealing them) and have denied Russia and other nations from using the SWIFT messaging system for trade settlement."

    Sounds like a cry baby Russian apologist and sympathizer.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,274 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2025 10:10AM

    ,> @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    How to Stop the BRICS Nations from Abandoning the Dollar

    "These nations have been driven to this extreme, time-consuming, and difficult project by clueless US leaders who have imposed sanctions on Russian assets (literally stealing them) and have denied Russia and other nations from using the SWIFT messaging system for trade settlement."

    Sounds like a cry baby Russian apologist and sympathizer.

    and how do you think you sound when you belittle others when the don't agree with you. Accept it, there will always be others that disagree with you and from what you have shown thus far, they are most likely to be correct. At least you can now drink cool aid of a better flavor.

    Gold has a world price entirely unaffected by accounting games between the Treasury and the Fed. - Jim Rickards

  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,395 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    ,> @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    How to Stop the BRICS Nations from Abandoning the Dollar

    "These nations have been driven to this extreme, time-consuming, and difficult project by clueless US leaders who have imposed sanctions on Russian assets (literally stealing them) and have denied Russia and other nations from using the SWIFT messaging system for trade settlement."

    Sounds like a cry baby Russian apologist and sympathizer.

    and how do you think you sound when you belittle others when the don't agree with you. Accept it, there will always be others that disagree with you and from what you have shown thus far, they are most likely to be correct. At least you can now drink cool aid of a better flavor.

    I hope you listen to your own words.

    Disagreement is awesome. The dissemination of misinformation is not. And i certainly hope you understand.

    BTW--Spain is now in the Brics. Hahahaha

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So, everything you disagree with is misinformation? That's kind of approaching narcissism.

    Gold has a world price entirely unaffected by accounting games between the Treasury and the Fed. - Jim Rickards

  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,395 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    So, everything you disagree with is misinformation? That's kind of approaching narcissism.

    I don't disagree with anything that is fact.

    But you do....is there a word for that?

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    So, everything you disagree with is misinformation? That's kind of approaching narcissism.

    I don't disagree with anything that is fact.

    But you do....is there a word for that?

    2 words I believe. As per The Cleveland Clinic: Delusional disorder is a type of mental health condition in which a person can't tell what's real from what's imagined. There are many types, including persecutory, jealous and grandiose types. It's treatable with psychotherapy and medication. RGDS!

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Consider the possibility that BRICS countries may not be seeking to destroy the U.S. dollar but they are simply looking for a hedge against it.

    Gold has a world price entirely unaffected by accounting games between the Treasury and the Fed. - Jim Rickards

  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,395 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    Consider the possibility that BRICS countries may not be seeking to destroy the U.S. dollar but they are simply looking for a hedge against it.

    Excellent. Good for them. Wish them good fortune. They are not the threat.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    Consider the possibility that BRICS countries may not be seeking to destroy the U.S. dollar but they are simply looking for a hedge against it.

    Excellent. Good for them. Wish them good fortune. They are not the threat.

    They are a threat to the petrodollar, something that will have serious repercussions for the future of the dollar. If you can't see this you have your eyes closed.

    Gold has a world price entirely unaffected by accounting games between the Treasury and the Fed. - Jim Rickards

  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,395 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 3, 2025 4:50AM

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    Consider the possibility that BRICS countries may not be seeking to destroy the U.S. dollar but they are simply looking for a hedge against it.

    Excellent. Good for them. Wish them good fortune. They are not the threat.

    They are a threat to the petrodollar, something that will have serious repercussions for the future of the dollar.

    Yes, blind like the astronomer that sees 10,000 asteroids but isn't concerned one will destroy the USA.

    Your scenario is unlikely...unless we become a Bric.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    Consider the possibility that BRICS countries may not be seeking to destroy the U.S. dollar but they are simply looking for a hedge against it.

    Excellent. Good for them. Wish them good fortune. They are not the threat.

    They are a threat to the petrodollar, something that will have serious repercussions for the future of the dollar.

    Yes, blind like the astronomer that sees 10,000 asteroids but isn't concerned one will destroy the USA.

    Your scenario is unlikely...unless we become a Bric.

    And if all 10,000 of those asteroids were created for the sole purpose of destroying the USA? What would the odds then become? LOL

    Gold has a world price entirely unaffected by accounting games between the Treasury and the Fed. - Jim Rickards

  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,395 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    Consider the possibility that BRICS countries may not be seeking to destroy the U.S. dollar but they are simply looking for a hedge against it.

    Excellent. Good for them. Wish them good fortune. They are not the threat.

    They are a threat to the petrodollar, something that will have serious repercussions for the future of the dollar.

    Yes, blind like the astronomer that sees 10,000 asteroids but isn't concerned one will destroy the USA.

    Your scenario is unlikely...unless we become a Bric.

    And if all 10,000 of those asteroids were created for the sole purpose of destroying the USA? What would the odds then become? LOL

    Well, it's your discussion, so you can say they they ain't out to destroy and are out to destroy in a span of less than 24 hours.. That's either hypocritical, confused or just gibberish. Maybe all?

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    Consider the possibility that BRICS countries may not be seeking to destroy the U.S. dollar but they are simply looking for a hedge against it.

    Excellent. Good for them. Wish them good fortune. They are not the threat.

    They are a threat to the petrodollar, something that will have serious repercussions for the future of the dollar.

    Yes, blind like the astronomer that sees 10,000 asteroids but isn't concerned one will destroy the USA.

    Your scenario is unlikely...unless we become a Bric.

    And if all 10,000 of those asteroids were created for the sole purpose of destroying the USA? What would the odds then become? LOL

    Well, it's your discussion, so you can say they they ain't out to destroy and are out to destroy in a span of less than 24 hours.. That's either hypocritical, confused or just gibberish. Maybe all?

    again, you make little sense.

    Gold has a world price entirely unaffected by accounting games between the Treasury and the Fed. - Jim Rickards

  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,395 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5, 2025 5:22AM

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    Consider the possibility that BRICS countries may not be seeking to destroy the U.S. dollar but they are simply looking for a hedge against it.

    Excellent. Good for them. Wish them good fortune. They are not the threat.

    They are a threat to the petrodollar, something that will have serious repercussions for the future of the dollar.

    Yes, blind like the astronomer that sees 10,000 asteroids but isn't concerned one will destroy the USA.

    Your scenario is unlikely...unless we become a Bric.

    And if all 10,000 of those asteroids were created for the sole purpose of destroying the USA? What would the odds then become? LOL

    Well, it's your discussion, so you can say they they ain't out to destroy and are out to destroy in a span of less than 24 hours.. That's either hypocritical, confused or just gibberish. Maybe all?

    again, you make little sense.

    Again, you don't even understand what you write.

    Back to topic....it appears the US is attempting to create a power void in Africa. That's good for China's expansion in the region.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • GoldFinger1969GoldFinger1969 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:
    What did gold "tell" us when it dropped from 1900 to 1000 a decade ago?

    It got ahead of itself...it thought the EU would fall apart and national currencies would be floating/sinking. Also fears those CB's and countries would sell gold on the open market.

    Fears of all that gold mining CAPX increasing supplies...I remember predictions for 4,000 tons per year and even 5,000 by 2020. We're still in the mid-3's !!! :D

  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,395 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2025 7:41AM

    @GoldFinger1969 said:

    @cohodk said:
    What did gold "tell" us when it dropped from 1900 to 1000 a decade ago?

    It got ahead of itself...it thought the EU would fall apart and national currencies would be floating/sinking. Also fears those CB's and countries would sell gold on the open market.

    So gold "thinks" or "says" just as those who trade it. It does not think or say for itself. Glad we are getting this anthropomorphism nonsense out of the way as it has no place in reason or logic.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,774 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What does the price of gold tell us ?

    It tells us the level of confidence in the global and national financial structures.

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It tells us it's going up just like every other asset on the planet. RGDS!

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:
    It tells us it's going up just like every other asset on the planet. RGDS!

    No, gold tells us that faith in the financial system, the FED, and the currency is swirling around the drain.

    Gold has a world price entirely unaffected by accounting games between the Treasury and the Fed. - Jim Rickards

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,774 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:
    It tells us it's going up just like every other asset on the planet. RGDS!

    .

    Are foreign currencies an "asset" ?
    Is the US Dollar an "asset" ?
    Are they "going up" (in value) ?

    .

  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,395 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dcarr said:

    @blitzdude said:
    It tells us it's going up just like every other asset on the planet. RGDS!

    .

    Are foreign currencies an "asset" ?
    Is the US Dollar an "asset" ?
    Are they "going up" (in value) ?

    .

    https://www.commonfund.org/blog/is-currency-an-asset-class

    Currencies are not an asset class and there is no long-term risk premium to capture. Instead, they are merely a relative trade compared to another currency

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dcarr said:

    @blitzdude said:
    It tells us it's going up just like every other asset on the planet. RGDS!

    .

    Are foreign currencies an "asset" ?
    Is the US Dollar an "asset" ?
    Are they "going up" (in value) ?

    .

    My bank accounts and salary certainly is. RGDS!

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,774 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:

    @dcarr said:

    @blitzdude said:
    It tells us it's going up just like every other asset on the planet. RGDS!

    .

    Are foreign currencies an "asset" ?
    Is the US Dollar an "asset" ?
    Are they "going up" (in value) ?

    .

    My bank accounts and salary certainly is. RGDS!

    .

    You mistake "quantity" for "quality".

    .

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Quantity....check.....Quality.....check........BOOMIN!™......Double......Double check. Exit bunker, get sunshine, return brain to reality, live life. THKS!

  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,395 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why are they issuing bonds denominated in dollars? Why not their own currency, or reals, roubles or yuan?

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/qatar-sells-dollar-bonds-months-103255334.html

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • GoldFinger1969GoldFinger1969 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RedneckHB said:
    So gold "thinks" or "says" just as those who trade it. It does not think or say for itself. Glad we are getting this >anthropomorphism nonsense out of the way as it has no place in reason or logic.

    The MARKET is saying that. And that's a metaphor because obviousley a "market" doesn't talk.

    I think we can ignore semantics, Red. :D

  • GoldFinger1969GoldFinger1969 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RedneckHB said:
    Why are they issuing bonds denominated in dollars? Why not their own currency, or reals, roubles or yuan?

    Because if they intend to pay the interest and principal back, they save alot of money by issuing the bonds in dollars. That's why the dollar bond market is $7 trillion. We are the global reserve currency.

    Sometimes you can't borrow in your local currency. Nobody wants 50 trillion quintillion Zimbabwe dollars !!! :D

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,274 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 22, 2025 11:32AM

    @GoldFinger1969 said:

    Nobody wants 50 trillion quintillion Zimbabwe dollars !!! :D

    I did! And it's now actually worth more than I paid for it.

    Gold has a world price entirely unaffected by accounting games between the Treasury and the Fed. - Jim Rickards

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