Is this toning positive, negative or neutral?
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Here are seller’s photos of a recent acquisition that looks similar in hand to the photos and has a good amount of luster shining through. What are your opinions on the toning? Does it look original or did it “turn” in the holder? Does it enhance the value or detract from it?
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It’s not that bad looking. Not sure if the black stuff will get worse, but definitely will be too dark/terminal for a lot of collectors.
Mr_Spud
Negative. Lincolns commonly tone beautifully, this is not an attractive example.
Leaning towards it turned in the holder. Irregardless it’s quite ugly. Better move em quick before they go bad in the holder. Otherwise it’s too bad so sad.
I certainly would reject it. Negative unattractive tarnish. The black stuff horrible. Possibly from salt air. Looks like biological attack near eagles claw. Horrible and in primary focal area.
Have you shopped it around the bourse at a show?
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Will the CAC guy pay all the money for it?
The toning looks original to me and overall, neutral to mildly negative. The lower portion of the reverse displays some attractive color but much of the other areas of each side detract.
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I would call it neutral leaning towards negative, unless it's a screaming deal I would keep looking.
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Natural trending towards neg but the coin faces up like a gem in an older holder with a sticker. It will get solid money
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Unfortunately, although original, I consider it negative eye appeal.
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For me the obverse is negative and the reverse is positive. I feel the CAC sticker adds more than the color.
I would call it neutral and believe it would get a decent premium (in part due to the sticker).
It’s natural, but leaning toward negative eye appeal for me.
Ugly. Pass. It's got a CAC sticker so sell it to them.
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Negative. Probably radioactive. Slab gets brittle, cracks. Regrets
Show it to your granma, ask her. Age spots. Hard pass.
Wouldn’t touch it. Swap for bunker supplies, TP, etc. Thank me later.
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its funny but every time someone posts a "is this toning positive, negative, or neutral?" its always terrible toning. I guess the lesson is, if you have doubts, then its bad! If a coin has good toning, you will know it right away and wont have doubts.
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It would not be for me. I would rather have a dipped piece.
It's probably original, but there is outside chance it could be from a badly rinsed dip.
Never would a dipped Lincoln be acceptable. Period.
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I don’t mind it.
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As for the question… the coin looks to have original skin. If you do not like buy a different coin.
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It's original. The toning appears to be a net negative for most folks and a slight positive for others. Overall, I think a coin that looks like this is less liquid than most other coins and, hence, isn't worth any premium.
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Umh…don’t think so.
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Negative. A coin I would pass on.
I just do not like that kind of spotty toning.
It's not for me but I am sure that there is a buyer out there who would appreciate it for what it is.
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You don’t think you could price it 15% 20% higher than an avg 64 not in a fatty without a sticker?
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Then it might be a bit like comparing apples to oranges. This coin against a generic, blasty, like-graded coin in a similar holder with CAC sticker is probably less liquid. However, to the right buyer it is worth more. So, if one were willing to carry the cost until the right buyer is found then it is worth more. If unwilling to carry the cost then it is less liquid.
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Not the type of toning that I would want. I do have some similarly toned coins thou. Its neutral toning bordering on negative toning.
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I'd buy it to resell, but not to keep.
Neutral.
Nothing to write home about, but I don’t find it distracting, either.
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Harsh crowd here, but I agree not something I’d buy.
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You would have to scrub it with a q tip soaked w jewel luster to even have a chance get the black off. Not sure it could be removed anyway.
I would pass on it.
I like it more than most on here, but am concerned that TomB is less enthused. His fealty to originality is rare.
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The toning is original and neutral to me. I would have had no problem selling that coin back in my dealing days. Old holder, CAC, and originality going for it.
Way better than a boring, dime-a-dozen dipped example.
The toning, to me, looks natural. I like the toning and I think I owned that coin at one time.
Obv negative. Reverse ok. Overall take a pass on that one. If you liked toned commems there are better options.
What about the toning on this Proof Nickel? I just pulled it from a 61 Proof Set Cellophane. Is it worth slabbing? Unfortunately the grade would probably be PR63/64-ish IMO. But the color might be neat to someone? Or will PCGS consider this damaged?
The only time I will buy something like this is it is rare.
I really think sometime times I’ll dip it it just lightly but I live with
because it’s rare. If I ev ever fi d a new one I will sell this one.
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Pass, not the type of coin for me
Ecks! One thing you never know is where nor how coins were stored for long periods of time, so toning can be quite attractive or downright ugly- but nevertheless original. IMHO- the Lincoln Half is original but not the attractiveness that I would include in my world. The Lincoln proof 1961 nickel - I really don't like it. Sorry to say that because I really don't like to insult someone on their coins. I think the toning on the nickel shows originality but the toning has gone wrong maybe due to bad storage.
Would everyone want it if it was in a Regency holder and CAC’ed? They’d be knocking themselves out to get it. What’s that old famous saying here, “buy the coin and not the holder!” 😉😂