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Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,444 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 6, 2024 5:55AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Purchased awhile ago but “forgotten” about until the other day when I came across it while looking for another cent in my collection.
It’s the somewhat better Medium Letter Redbook variety; still an R1, but checking the pops, it’s considerably scarcer than its Large Lettered brother, especially in the upper grades.

Feel free to guess what PCGS said about it. Any scratches are on the holder, not the coin:



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  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • abbyme24abbyme24 Posts: 162 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 5, 2024 12:43PM

    I’m not great at early copper since it can be difficult to judge luster from photos, but I will guess 58.

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 1,929 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice coin. I like it at 2/3 but higher would not surprise me. Luster in hand?

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oldabeintx said:
    Very nice coin. I like it at 2/3 but higher would not surprise me. Luster in hand?

    Thanks. Luster is somewhat accurate in the pics. I’d say it’s decent (for what it is), but certainly not booming/great cartwheels, etc.

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice Copper, Greg. Is it an N-3? Not the greatest on the Coronet Head Cents, not even sure I like the name. lol. I believe it would grade MS63. Thanks for sharing.
    Jim


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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62

  • Coins4EliCoins4Eli Posts: 25 ✭✭

    @jesbroken said:
    Is it an N-3?

    It is.

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  • jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 1,399 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62

  • RLSnapperRLSnapper Posts: 572 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful cent.......it looks like a 58/62 tweener....I will go for the 62! Here is my 1831.........quite the difference.

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RLSnapper said:
    Beautiful cent.......it looks like a 58/62 tweener....I will go for the 62! Here is my 1831.........quite the difference.

    But yours has that nice whale late die state cud!

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coins4Eli said:

    @jesbroken said:
    Is it an N-3?

    It is.

    Yes, that’s correct.

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  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,182 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,981 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS-62 slab grade. Probably a classic AU-58 if the dark place on the cheek is a rub.

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  • PickinndGrinninPickinndGrinnin Posts: 36 ✭✭

    If I straight grade it, It's a 58. What gen slab is it?

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,160 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm thinking 58 with nice luster... beautiful.

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  • SensibleSal66SensibleSal66 Posts: 99 ✭✭✭

    @Walkerguy21D said:
    Purchased awhile ago but “forgotten” about until the other day when I came across it while looking for another cent in my collection.
    It’s the somewhat better Medium Letter Redbook variety; still an R1, but checking the pops, it’s considerably scarcer than its Large Lettered brother, especially in the upper grades.

    Feel free to guess what PCGS said about it. Any scratches are on the holder, not the coin:



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  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58+

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  • EastonCollectionEastonCollection Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Terrific looking coin - I would say 58 but it could be a 63 depending if there is a rub on the cheek or not. Can't tell from the picture.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    MS-62 slab grade. Probably a classic AU-58 if the dark place on the cheek is a rub.

    Great point, Bill, thanks for bringing this up (along with EastonCollection), as I wanted to discuss and compare this with another cent I own. Will post the grade shortly.

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  • jclovescoinsjclovescoins Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    au55

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU 55 is correct, albeit a bit harsh, IMO.
    Slab image added to original post.
    But I was the beneficiary, not the submitter.
    I believe it’s a lock 58 coin, and if some tlc could reveal more of the luster, certainly a shot 62.

    Regarding the dark area on the cheek, I personally have trouble in this case discerning rub from long term envelope storage (assuming this caused the darkness on both).

    Here’s a comparison between two of my cents.



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  • retirednowretirednow Posts: 530 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PS: Nice photos

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  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 1,929 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A very nice 55 indeed.

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,160 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree.. 55 seems a bit harsh. FWIW... I couldn't tell AU vs MS because of the cheek and a static image. The reverse looks MS to me and knowing how hard PCGS has been on copper recently, I went with the higher AU grade.

    ...why doesn't anything like that "turn up" in MY safe?!! :wink:

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lkenefic said:
    I agree.. 55 seems a bit harsh. FWIW... I couldn't tell AU vs MS because of the cheek and a static image. The reverse looks MS to me and knowing how hard PCGS has been on copper recently, I went with the higher AU grade.

    ...why doesn't anything like that "turn up" in MY safe?!! :wink:

    Seriously thinking about sending it in for reconsideration. It’s definitely nicer than my other PCGS 55’s. Even a bump to 58 would be worthwhile.

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