Just Won This, What do You See? Edit: 1872 FS-801 Dime Arrived

CRHer700

You tell me why I would buy this.

As a bonus, guess how much I paid for it in dollars and what country it is shipping from.

hummingbird_coins

DDR FS-801

hummingbird_coins

lag double post

CRHer700

@hummingbird_coins said:
DDR FS-801

I guess that it didn't take too long for you to figure it out. Now, I'll let you all guess how much I paid for it and what country it is coming from.

hummingbird_coins

@CRHer700 said:

@hummingbird_coins said:
DDR FS-801

I guess that it didn't take too long for you to figure it out. Now, I'll let you all guess how much I paid for it and what country it is coming from.

My guess is $27.63 and Australia (I have seen numerous seated liberty dimes and half dimes on ebay from an australian seller)
Coincidentally, I was looking at ebay listings earlier today and saw a different 1872 dime that had a higher bid than I thought it should, it wasn't the DDR but I found out about it while doing research, turns out the 1872 has a surprisingly low survival rate compared to some others with similar mintages, and that might explain the price

DocBenjamin

Twenty for the coin plus six bucks shipping from Canada.

Barberian

$25.00 from Great Britain?

$14.00 from Malawi Stamp and Coin?

CRHer700

I'll reveal it. $9.69 from Germany. It'll be here in a couple weeks. I'm excited since it is my first variety pick off of eBay .

CRHer700

@Barberian said:
$25.00 from Great Britain?

$14.00 from Malawi Stamp and Coin?

I am not sure that Malawi Stamp and Coin can be trusted.

CRHer700

This double posting is happening a lot now.

Barberian

$9.69 is very good! You did well. How much is shipping from Germany?

DelawareDoons

Don't post cherrypicks until they're in hand. Never know where a seller is lurking and will pull the coin/cancel the sale.

CRHer700

@Barberian said:
$9.69 is very good! You did well. How much is shipping from Germany?

That includes shipping. It was like €4 shipping or something.

CRHer700

@DelawareDoons said:
Don't post cherrypicks until they're in hand. Never know where a seller is lurking and will pull the coin/cancel the sale.

I hope that doesn’t happen. I don’t think that they know about it though.

airplanenut

@CRHer700 said:

@DelawareDoons said:
Don't post cherrypicks until they're in hand. Never know where a seller is lurking and will pull the coin/cancel the sale.

I hope that doesn’t happen. I don’t think that they know about it though.

The issue is if someone here sees this post and then decides the seller should know about it, and they take it upon themselves to see that it happens. It's a low move, but it's happened plenty of times. Delaware's advice is good advice.

CRHer700

It arrived!

I did get the exact coin. It is low grade, but I think that it was a good buy for $9.69. Here are my pictures.

CRHer700

I know that as a group we don’t like microscope shots, but I didn’t have a better way to show the DDR, as the above pictures are pretty bad.

CaptHenway

I knew the variety because I was the one who figured out that it was a super wild doubled die with almost 180 degree rotation between impressions. A collector had sent it to Bill Fivaz as a possible dual denomination clash mark, and Bill sent it to me because I am good at figuring stuff out. I looked at it for a while and it just popped into my head. I called Bill and said “Are you sitting down?”

Copperindian

@CRHer700: congratulations! I’m glad you got this OK. NICE!

RobertScotLover

Wish I could see the DDR

yosclimber

@RobertScotLover said:
Wish I could see the DDR

There are good photos of a high grade coin with this DDR on Gerry Fortin's site,
in case you would like to see the markers:
https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date_mintmark/1872_105page.htm
He cites @CaptHenway's article from 2003.

CRHer700

@Copperindian said:
@CRHer700: congratulations! I’m glad you got this OK. NICE!

Thank you. I am very blessed to have found one so quickly.

CRHer700

@CaptHenway said:
I knew the variety because I was the one who figured out that it was a super wild doubled die with almost 180 degree rotation between impressions. A collector had sent it to Bill Fivaz as a possible dual denomination clash mark, and Bill sent it to me because I am good at figuring stuff out. I looked at it for a while and it just popped into my head. I called Bill and said “Are you sitting down?”

Do you have any idea as to what prices this DDR has sold for in the past, and how many are estimated to survive? From what I have been able to find, the price guides jump all over the place.

By the way, that was an amazing discovery that you made with this.

yosclimber

@CRHer700 said:
Do you have any idea as to what prices this DDR has sold for in the past, and how many are estimated to survive? From what I have been able to find, the price guides jump all over the place.

On Gerry's site you can look at his Sales Archive.
Most of the sold examples are in higher grades, but it shows:
$35 F-105 G-06 raw
$75 F-115 VG-10 PCGS
https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/SalesArchive.html

Gerry estimates these varieties are R5 and the prices should be 2000-3000% above the price for a normal 1872.
https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date_mintmark/1872varpage.htm

CRHer700

@yosclimber said:

@CRHer700 said:
Do you have any idea as to what prices this DDR has sold for in the past, and how many are estimated to survive? From what I have been able to find, the price guides jump all over the place.

On Gerry's site you can look at his Sales Archive.
Most of the sold examples are in higher grades, but it shows:
$35 F-105 G-06 raw
$75 F-115 VG-10 PCGS
https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/SalesArchive.html

Gerry estimates these varieties are R5 and the prices should be 2000-3000% above the price for a normal 1872.
https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date_mintmark/1872varpage.htm

Thanks for that resource. I had never seen that before. Also, I would like to know what the differences are between the F-105 and F-115 obverses.

yosclimber

@CRHer700 said:
... Also, I would like to know what the differences are between the F-105 and F-115 obverses.

[F-115] Further study revealed that the date punch was slightly more left than Variety 105. On Variety 105, the DR measurement is 0B1 while the Greer coin measured 0R.

from
https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date_mintmark/1872_115page.htm

gumby1234

Considering that its AG3 you probably paid exactly what its worth.

Copperindian

@CRHer700: I’ve found Gerry Fortin to know as much about seated dimes as anyone.

CRHer700

@yosclimber said:

@CRHer700 said:
... Also, I would like to know what the differences are between the F-105 and F-115 obverses.

[F-115] Further study revealed that the date punch was slightly more left than Variety 105. On Variety 105, the DR measurement is 0B1 while the Greer coin measured 0R.

from
https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date_mintmark/1872_115page.htm

Thanks.

hummingbird_coins

@Copperindian said:
@CRHer700: I’ve found Gerry Fortin to know as much about seated dimes as anyone.

Did you word that wrong? Or am I reading this right and you think he's not all that?

Copperindian

@hummingbird_coins said:

@Copperindian said:
@CRHer700: I’ve found Gerry Fortin to know as much about seated dimes as anyone.

Did you word that wrong? Or am I reading this right and you think he's not all that?

I think you read it wrong. I think Gerry’s as knowledgeable as they come with seated dimes.

CaptHenway

@CRHer700 said:

@CaptHenway said:
I knew the variety because I was the one who figured out that it was a super wild doubled die with almost 180 degree rotation between impressions. A collector had sent it to Bill Fivaz as a possible dual denomination clash mark, and Bill sent it to me because I am good at figuring stuff out. I looked at it for a while and it just popped into my head. I called Bill and said “Are you sitting down?”

Do you have any idea as to what prices this DDR has sold for in the past, and how many are estimated to survive? From what I have been able to find, the price guides jump all over the place.

By the way, that was an amazing discovery that you made with this.

Thank you. It shocked the hell out of me once I realized what it was.
Don’t follow prices on it.

RobertScotLover

Can a member here point what where they pick up the doubling, I have looked at this piece multiple times and see no DDR evident?

CaptHenway

@RobertScotLover said:
Can a member here point what where they pick up the doubling, I have looked at this piece multiple times and see no DDR evident?

Look at the link provided by yosclimber above. Go to the site. Look at the leaf running at an angle through the E of DIME. That is the leaf running above the O of ONE. Then just orient all of the other details from that.

CRHer700

You can see evidence above "one", in the O of "one", in the D and E of "dime", and to the left of the D in "dime".