Post Trueview Image Of Your PCGS Certified 1909-S or 1909-S V.D.B. Lincoln Cent

mr1931S

Trueviews only, please. If not comfortable posting the Trueview with its certification number here just blot the number out before posting. UPDATE 7/22/24- Images of 1909-S without V.D.B. are welcome to post in here in addition to 1909-S V.D.B.

Here is my 1909-S V.D.B. It has 's' position, "PCGS #4". #4 position is the lowest and farthest right of the four known 's' positions for the 1909-S V.D.B. Lincoln cent variety. PCGS #4 was also used to make 1909-S cents without V.D.B.

PCGS F15...

Old_Collector

Once upon a time had an ugly TV, so it changed skin (63BN)

mr1931S

Posted by Old Collector in Stefanie's (coinsarefun) thread a few days ago. No V.D.B. 's' Far low, far right for 1909-S LC without V.D.B. Harsche #6. I should add that it has deep valley on the "N" in UNITED. The reverse of this coin as posted by Old Collector can be seen in Stefanie's thread, entitled "Copper for the weekend."

RobertScotLover

@Old_Collector said:
Once upon a time had an ugly TV, so it changed skin (63BN)

I like subtle fingerprints

mr1931S

Old Collector, what is the official grade of your 1909-S without V.D.B.? It's gem bu to my eyes.
Was it struck slightly off center?

OAKSTAR

@Old_Collector said:
Once upon a time had an ugly TV, so it changed skin (63BN)

This coin belongs on this thread. 🤣 😉

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1105615/post-your-graded-coins-with-fingerprints#latest

mr1931S

One can see the "dot" within the upper serif of the 's' on Old Collector's piece. A tiny part of the punch used to make the 's' chipped off to produce this anomaly. All genuine 1909-S cents have the dot but it may not be visible on some pieces because of wear, dirt in the 's' loops, or damage to the mintmark.

Copperindian

Apologies to the OP, but I don’t have a TV for this one, but think it’s worth sharing:

TPRC

robec

mr1931S

@rnkmyer1 said:
Apologies to the OP, but I don’t have a TV for this one, but think it’s worth sharing:

Lovely. My favorite 's' position as seen on 1909-S cents. I'm currently working on assembling a set of all six known obverse die varieties for 1909-S V.D.B. and 1909-S without V.D.B. I've got two of the six, need four, so it's going to be a while. This particular 's' position, as seen on rnkmyer's piece, is not as commonly seen as any of the other five known 's' positions, except for maybe PCGS #1, which is really,really scarce seen on 1909-S with V.D.B. I believe that the FLFR #6 (Harsche) obverse die was the last one used to make 1909-S cents without V.D.B. 1909-S V.D.B. obverse from die #6 is unknown.

Old_Collector

@mr1931S said:
Posted by Old Collector in Stefanie's (coinsarefun) thread a few days ago. No V.D.B. 's' Far low, far right for 1909-S LC without V.D.B. Harsche #6. I should add that it has deep valley on the "N" in UNITED. The reverse of this coin as posted by Old Collector can be seen in Stefanie's thread, entitled "Copper for the weekend."

Yes, I crossed it at the same time as the other, due to the summer deal -- no cross no fee.
Ah, I forgot that I do have a 1909 TV, the 1909 VDB DDO FS-1101. A senior moment, those happen occasionally.

burfle23

I guess there wasn't a TruView for this example:

mr1931S

I guess there wasn't a TruView for this example

That's right. No Truview image was ever available for #38363500. This number was removed from the PCGS database after it was determined the piece had a masterfully added V.D.B., rendering it a counterfeit. The OP piece, #44090046, is its replacement. I like to think #38363500 is being used as a teaching tool at PCGS but I don't know for a fact that it is.

V.D.B. on a genuine 1909-S V.D.B. Lincoln cent:

mr1931S

@Old_Collector said:

@mr1931S said:
Posted by Old Collector in Stefanie's (coinsarefun) thread a few days ago. No V.D.B. 's' Far low, far right for 1909-S LC without V.D.B. Harsche #6. I should add that it has deep valley on the "N" in UNITED. The reverse of this coin as posted by Old Collector can be seen in Stefanie's thread, entitled "Copper for the weekend."

Yes, I crossed it at the same time as the other, due to the summer deal -- no cross no fee.
Ah, I forgot that I do have a 1909 TV, the 1909 VDB DDO FS-1101. A senior moment, those happen occasionally.

Thank you for posting the Truview of your 1909 V.D.B. DDO FS-1101, the very first Lincoln cent DDO. The error is visible to the naked eye on new or lightly worn pieces and is seen as quite dramatic when viewed under magnification. Can be cherry-picked at shows to this day.

ProofCollection

@mr1931S said:
Trueviews only, please. If not comfortable posting the Trueview with its certification number here just blot the number out before posting. UPDATE 7/22/24- Images of 1909-S without V.D.B. are welcome to post in here in addition to 1909-S V.D.B.

Here is my 1909-S V.D.B. It has 's' position, "PCGS #4". #4 position is the lowest and farthest right of the four known 's' positions for the 1909-S V.D.B. Lincoln cent variety. PCGS #4 was also used to make 1909-S cents without V.D.B.

You realize you can just go to Coinfacts and view all the TVs you'd like right?

https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1909-s-1c-lincoln-rd/images/2434
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1909-s-vdb-1c-rd/images/2428

PTVETTER

I like the 09-S VDB in MS66RD

mr1931S

@ProofCollection said:

@mr1931S said:
Trueviews only, please. If not comfortable posting the Trueview with its certification number here just blot the number out before posting. UPDATE 7/22/24- Images of 1909-S without V.D.B. are welcome to post in here in addition to 1909-S V.D.B.

Here is my 1909-S V.D.B. It has 's' position, "PCGS #4". #4 position is the lowest and farthest right of the four known 's' positions for the 1909-S V.D.B. Lincoln cent variety. PCGS #4 was also used to make 1909-S cents without V.D.B.

You realize you can just go to Coinfacts and view all the TVs you'd like right?

https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1909-s-1c-lincoln-rd/images/2434
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1909-s-vdb-1c-rd/images/2428

Yes. I think we all realize on this board that this forum is a social site. These are cool, very easy to use links. Thank you for posting them here.

124Spider

duck620

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Bolo

I'll be different. Here is one I bought when I was 12 and sent in last year for fun:

Oney

Old_Collector

@mr1931S said:
Old Collector, what is the official grade of your 1909-S without V.D.B.? It's gem bu to my eyes.
Was it struck slightly off center?

Missed this somehow, sorry. It is 65RD and does look a bit off center, have a look and you decide.

mr1931S

@Old_Collector said:

@mr1931S said:
Old Collector, what is the official grade of your 1909-S without V.D.B.? It's gem bu to my eyes.
Was it struck slightly off center?

Missed this somehow, sorry. It is 65RD and does look a bit off center, have a look and you decide.

Thanks for confirming what I was thinking. It's a gem.

giorgio11

These are the two 1909-S VDBs that I currently own for a very short while yet, as both are consigned to GC in short order. MS66BN and MS64+BN, both PCGS CAC. Kind regards, George / VDB Coins