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First CACG purchases, a pair of SLQ

ad4400ad4400 Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

Finding the last pieces for my SLQ date set (excluding 1916) have proven difficult. While its a PCGS registry, I've crossed/cracked out an NGC and ANACS piece or two for the set , and don't feel this is going to be that much different. Thoughts on the pieces and wisdom of cracking out CACG to finalize (as much as it ever well) my PCGS registry.
Also, thoughts on whether the 1927 would FH with our hosts are apprecatied:


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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For me at the end of the day it's about the coins so if you want consistency cross them imo.
    The 1927 is really close and imo might FH.


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  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 3, 2024 1:20PM

    Why not keep your PCGS Registry set and start a Registry set at CACG?

    While I can understand why current owners of third party graded coins hate seeing their coins downgraded at CACG, going forward, sophisticated buyers are going to want to buy the most conservatively graded coins. Right now that appears to be at CACG.

  • CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 1,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m fine with the numerical grades but I don’t think either warrants a FH. Nice coins, though!

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  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm torn on this between what Mark said and what you are doing. Dollar wise Mark's advice is prudent but if you've been searching for a while and just not finding the right coin in a PCGS holder it gets harder and harder to resist a very nice coin in another holder. And those two are nice coins.

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  • P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 2,560 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    As a general rule with very few exceptions, my recommendation is: If you want a coin in a PCGS holder, buy it in one, even if that requires a great deal of patience.

    I generally agree with the wisdom of this advice, although I believe it may be partially predicated on PCGS being the most conservative of the grading services. That assumption may no longer be accurate with the entry of CACG.

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  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I buy the coin I like in whatever holder and then just move to the holder I need. Don’t see any issues with that if you’re after specific coins…. It is a hobby after all.

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,305 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seems to me like a total waste of money to cross these, especially as you will lose the quality photos and get inferior replacements, but I understand why you want to and it's your choice.

    Both are very attractive and while I do not see a FH in your future on the 1927 anything is possible with market grading.

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  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You could also join the CACG registry and keep them in the CACG holders.

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  • CrepidoderaCrepidodera Posts: 363 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No FH

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,970 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great looking quarters👍
    I don’t think the 27 will make full head.

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  • raysrays Posts: 2,373 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Both quarters are highly desirable with beautiful toning.

  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    WOW!!! I just looked up your 1927 quarter on the CACG website. It's labelled as MS63FH!

    Any thoughts about contacting CACG with a ransom demand?

    As someone earlier said, they are right on the money 90% of the time.

  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DisneyFan said:
    WOW!!! I just looked up your 1927 quarter on the CACG website. It's labelled as MS63FH!

    Any thoughts about contacting CACG with a ransom demand?

    As someone earlier said, they are right on the money 90% of the time.

    Only 63???

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  • Jacques_LoungecoqueJacques_Loungecoque Posts: 733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great looking coins and clearly a case where they’d look good in any set regardless of the number that came after the 6. I don’t see a FH though.

    Having fun while switching things up and focusing on a next level PCGS slabbed 1950+ type set, while still looking for great examples for the 7070.

  • ad4400ad4400 Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for feedback. In case it wasn't clear, CACG has graded the 1927 as 63+ FH. I don't chase or need FH for my set. I was drawn by the look and color, and have no desire to be buried into a FH graded coin that is not one. I will admit to buying without being fully versed in FH determinants, and did buy into the CACG hype they would get it right. Live and learn. It appears CACG is not infallible or can be loose with designations too.

    I try to subscribe to idea of "if you want a PcGs graded coin, buy as PCGS graded coin" and managed to do so for my V nick set and all new additions to the 7070 registry (the rest were graded from raw, which in prior lives were from all sorts of grading companies). I concur it is good advice that I generally adhere to. I do wonder though, if I had framed this thread as a "would it cross" and they were NGC or ANACS coins, whether I would have gotten the same advice regarding buying in the holder you ultimately want....

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ad4400 said:
    Thanks for feedback. In case it wasn't clear, CACG has graded the 1927 as 63+ FH. .............. It appears CACG is not infallible or can be loose with designations too.

    I wouldn't have guessed that. It's not even close to FH IMO.

  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    When trying to cross coins, you’re up against a different grading company having to make assessments through plastic and any potential grading bias they might have. Then there’s the time, cost and potential frustration, as well. All things considered, far more times than not, I’d advise against it.

    Do you feel the same about trying upgrade a coin?

  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ad4400 said:
    Thanks for feedback. In case it wasn't clear, CACG has graded the 1927 as 63+ FH.

    Did you mean to say "63 plus a FH?" I'm not seeing the "+".

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,514 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DisneyFan said:

    @MFeld said:

    When trying to cross coins, you’re up against a different grading company having to make assessments through plastic and any potential grading bias they might have. Then there’s the time, cost and potential frustration, as well. All things considered, far more times than not, I’d advise against it.

    Do you feel the same about trying upgrade a coin?

    I don’t feel the same about trying for an upgrade, as long as the owner would still be satisfied/happy with the coin in his set, as is. To me, that’s very different from buying a coin in the “wrong” holder and not wanting it if it fails to cross.

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,228 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 4, 2024 5:32PM

    Outside getting some raw piece graded - I don’t play the holder or sticker game. Grading costs add to the cost of material adding more pressure in bourse arena sell it with positive result. As far as somebody making generalizations about the TPG accepted by eBay frankly I wonder some of them if elevator goes to the top.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,514 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cougar1978 said:
    Outside getting some raw piece graded - I don’t play the holder or sticker game. Grading costs add to the cost of material adding more pressure in bourse arena sell it with positive result. As far as somebody making generalizations about the TPG accepted by eBay frankly I wonder some of them if elevator goes to the top.

    I didn’t see a single post in this thread that referenced “TPG accepted by eBay”. Talking about wondering if someone’s elevator goes to the top…😀

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,228 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 4, 2024 6:26PM

    Don’t you have something better to do? What do you do sit by the computer all day and then…funny.

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