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GTG: 1861-S Quarter Eagle - CACG - GRADE REVEALED

REALGATORREALGATOR Posts: 2,622 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 3, 2024 3:18AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Any thoughts on the grade of this scarce Quarter Eagle? Reveal posted after the guesses.

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  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,831 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58

    Mr_Spud

  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55+

  • CrepidoderaCrepidodera Posts: 390 ✭✭✭✭✭

    45/50

  • LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,986 ✭✭✭✭✭

    53 with a Nice image

    It's all about what the people want...

  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF45, if it had enough luster I could see it in a 50 holder but I love it as an XF45.

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  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,899 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2, 2024 7:17AM

    Edited: from 55 to 53, once I noticed the coin was graded by CACG.

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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll venture 53 as no objectionable marks, some lustre around devices under the toning with very nice rims (I like to look here as well since they are relatively broad and obviously flat - subject to hits and damage...The field to right of bust is a bit wonky but maybe some planchet issues?? I suspect head, talons & wings on reverse as well as Lib's curls to obverse victims of soft striking & bit of friction on top of that.

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    50.

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ll go with 45. The obverse looks 50-55ish while the reverse brings the grade down with the wear on the head, wings, and talons.

  • Davidk7Davidk7 Posts: 370 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2, 2024 7:14AM
    1. Maybe a 53 on a friday

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  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    50

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU50 Nice surfaces and color.

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  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    45 sounds right

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  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    45+

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  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,639 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    AU50 Nice surfaces and color.

    I concur.

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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    53

  • Project NumismaticsProject Numismatics Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    50

  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    45/50

  • Sven27Sven27 Posts: 10 ✭

    45

  • TonedeafTonedeaf Posts: 244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm in for 53. I like the color!

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  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My initial thought was 55.

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  • Jacques_LoungecoqueJacques_Loungecoque Posts: 733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2, 2024 12:58PM

    XF Details?

    edit to add: I know jack squat about gold.

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  • ShurkeShurke Posts: 440 ✭✭✭✭

    My gut reaction was 55.

  • OnlyGoldIsMoneyOnlyGoldIsMoney Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 1861-S $2.50 can be quite difficult to find, especially with CAC approval.

    NO END IN SIGHT LIB $2.50'S CAC ONLY
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,567 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Au 53, fwiw

  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow I love it, 53 here.

  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OnlyGoldIsMoney said:
    The 1861-S $2.50 can be quite difficult to find, especially with CAC approval.

    An ominous thought from a guy that would know. Details grade bet just jumped on DraftKings.

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  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    53

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @breakdown said:

    @OnlyGoldIsMoney said:
    The 1861-S $2.50 can be quite difficult to find, especially with CAC approval.

    An ominous thought from a guy that would know. Details grade bet just jumped on DraftKings.

    At the risk of putting my foot in my mouth, I’ll take some straight-grade action.😬

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  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @breakdown said:

    @OnlyGoldIsMoney said:
    The 1861-S $2.50 can be quite difficult to find, especially with CAC approval.

    An ominous thought from a guy that would know. Details grade bet just jumped on DraftKings.

    At the risk of putting my foot in my mouth, I’ll take some straight-grade action.😬

    Hey again!

    ;) Just teasing, I would bet on it also <3

  • goldengolden Posts: 9,789 ✭✭✭✭✭

    50 here.

  • raysrays Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lermish said:

    @MFeld said:

    @breakdown said:

    @OnlyGoldIsMoney said:
    The 1861-S $2.50 can be quite difficult to find, especially with CAC approval.

    An ominous thought from a guy that would know. Details grade bet just jumped on DraftKings.

    At the risk of putting my foot in my mouth, I’ll take some straight-grade action.😬

    Hey again!

    ;) Just teasing, I would bet on it also <3

    I was teasing, too, but I would be very surprised if the coin received a details-grade.

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice date as well as coin. PCGS survivors in all grades estimates 85.

  • markelman1125markelman1125 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Au 55

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Technical 53/45, probably net 50.

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  • ColoradoCoinGuyColoradoCoinGuy Posts: 219 ✭✭✭

    Don't see much luster in the photo so would say XF45.
    But if there is some luster that is not showing in the photo, then I would say AU53.

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  • KiwiNumiKiwiNumi Posts: 149 ✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    Edited: from 55 to 53, once I noticed the coin was graded by CACG.

    I've never submitted to CACG, but from what I've seen online, they seem to be fair with numeric grading. I tend to agree with their grades, but the big problem I see is that they give details grades to coins that don't deserve it.

  • johnnybjohnnyb Posts: 40 ✭✭✭

    Forget the number grade, that coin looks original and beautiful regardless of number and would look great in any collection. I’d give it a 50 but can easily see it higher.

  • JonBrand83JonBrand83 Posts: 481 ✭✭✭✭✭

    nice 50

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  • spyglassdesignspyglassdesign Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Coin is beautiful. 53 would be my guess!

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  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could not decide between 53 and 55 so I will say 53+.

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  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    50

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  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55

    Tom

  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,156 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF45. A really nice clean coin. The reverse seems a little worn. Tiny rim nick at 9:00 on the obverse.

  • REALGATORREALGATOR Posts: 2,622 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well someone here almost figured it out but no one said "Cleaned". Under a halogen lamp there are no hairlines or any signs of being wiped. I do believe the coin was dipped in something to remove dirt but the surfaces don't look disturbed. It really seems like CAC is trying to become the new "OGH". CACG Numeric grades are tough and I mostly agree with them but some really nice coins are getting passed over. I was expecting a 45 or 50 but got this lump of coal instead.

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