Assayers initials on Mexican 8 reales Сap and rays

genosse

Hello, friends
Does anyone have information on the names of assayers at the mints of Mexico City and Guanajuato ?
I am interested in the following assayers initials
Guanajuato mint
1826-27,1828-33 M.J. -
1827-1828 M.R. -
1834-1842 P.J. -
1848-1861 P.F. -
1880-1883 S.B. -
1883-1884 B.R. -

Mexico City mint
1837-38,1842-43 M.M. -
1847 R.C. -
1855-1857 G.F. -

bidask

I don't have my RESPLANDORES reference with me but what your looking for is all in there.

TheGoonies1985

@genosse said:
Hello, friends
Does anyone have information on the names of assayers at the mints of Mexico City and Guanajuato ?
I am interested in the following assayers initials
Guanajuato mint
1826-27,1828-33 M.J. -
1827-1828 M.R. -
1834-1842 P.J. -
1848-1861 P.F. -
1880-1883 S.B. -
1883-1884 B.R. -

Mexico City mint
1837-38,1842-43 M.M. -
1847 R.C. -
1855-1857 G.F. -

Per Resplandores (Mike Dunnigan & J.B. Parker 1997):

Guanajuato mint

Unknown
Unknown
Unknown
Unknown
Unknown
Unknown

Mexico mint

Unknown
Unknown
Unknown

I just went threw my book and this is what he wrote for each initial you inquired about. Maybe someone here has done further research and can be of help (or maybe not).

TheGoonies1985

Bidask & Boosobri are extremely knowledgeable about this series (and other series as well). They would be the ones to know. Possibly others as well but since I have been here they seem to the experts on this 8 reales series from Mexico.

I own a copy of Resplandores but I do not collect the series.

Boosibri

If it’s not in Resplandores, then I’m of no use.

genosse

@PillarDollarCollector said:
Per Resplandores (Mike Dunnigan & J.B. Parker 1997):
I just went threw my book and this is what he wrote for each initial you inquired about. Maybe someone here has done further research and can be of help (or maybe not).

I don't have Resplandores.
Please compare if these assayers are in this book

Guanajuato mint
1824, 1833 J.M. - Jose Antonio Mucharraz
1825-1826 J.J. - Jose Mariano Jimenez
1842-1848 P.M. - Patrick Murphy
1862 Y.E. - Ynocencio Espinoza
1862-1870 Y.F. - Yldenfonso Flores
1870-1873 F.R. - Faustino Ramirez
1874-1878 F.R. - Francisco Sardaneta and Roman Mendosa
1878-1879 S.M. - Jose Maria Sardaneta and Roman Mendosa
1884-1890 R.R. - Jose Guadalupe Reynoso and Carlos Romero
1891-1897 R.S. - Rosendo Sandoval

Mexico City mint
1822-1832 J.M. - Jose Garcia Anzaldo and Manuel Ruiz Tejeda
1833 M.J. - Manuel Ruiz Tejeda and Jose Garcia Anzaldo
1833-36,1837,1838-42 M.L. - Manuel Ruiz Tejeda and Luis Velazquez de la Cadena
1836,1844-47 M.F. - Manuel Ruiz Tejeda and Francisco Lelo de Larrea
1848-1855 G.C. - Joaquin Gonzalez and Sebastian Camacho
1858-1860 F.H. - Francisco Hermosa
1860-61,1863 T.H. - Manuel Ruiz Tejeda and Francisco Hermosa
1861-63,1867,1868-69 C.H. - Sebastian Camacho and Francisco Hermosa
1873-74,1877-90 M.H. - Adolfo Medina and ?
1874-1876 B.H. - Mariano Barcena and ?
1890-95,1896-97 A.M. - Adolfo Medina
1895-1896 A.B. - Antonio de la Barrera

TheGoonies1985

@genosse said:

@PillarDollarCollector said:
Per Resplandores (Mike Dunnigan & J.B. Parker 1997):
I just went threw my book and this is what he wrote for each initial you inquired about. Maybe someone here has done further research and can be of help (or maybe not).

I don't have Resplandores.
Please compare if these assayers are in this book

Guanajuato mint
1824, 1833 J.M. - Jose Antonio Mucharraz
1825-1826 J.J. - Jose Mariano Jimenez
1842-1848 P.M. - Patrick Murphy
1862 Y.E. - Ynocencio Espinoza
1862-1870 Y.F. - Yldenfonso Flores
1870-1873 F.R. - Faustino Ramirez
1874-1878 F.R. - Francisco Sardaneta and Roman Mendosa
1878-1879 S.M. - Jose Maria Sardaneta and Roman Mendosa
1884-1890 R.R. - Jose Guadalupe Reynoso and Carlos Romero
1891-1897 R.S. - Rosendo Sandoval

Mexico City mint
1822-1832 J.M. - Jose Garcia Anzaldo and Manuel Ruiz Tejeda
1833 M.J. - Manuel Ruiz Tejeda and Jose Garcia Anzaldo
1833-36,1837,1838-42 M.L. - Manuel Ruiz Tejeda and Luis Velazquez de la Cadena
1836,1844-47 M.F. - Manuel Ruiz Tejeda and Francisco Lelo de Larrea
1848-1855 G.C. - Joaquin Gonzalez and Sebastian Camacho
1858-1860 F.H. - Francisco Hermosa
1860-61,1863 T.H. - Manuel Ruiz Tejeda and Francisco Hermosa
1861-63,1867,1868-69 C.H. - Sebastian Camacho and Francisco Hermosa
1873-74,1877-90 M.H. - Adolfo Medina and ?
1874-1876 B.H. - Mariano Barcena and ?
1890-95,1896-97 A.M. - Adolfo Medina
1895-1896 A.B. - Antonio de la Barrera

Guanajuato mint:

Yes 1833
Yes 1826-1833
Yes 1842-1848
Yes 1862-1863
Yes 1862-1863 and 1867-1870
Yes 1870-1878
FR Faustino Ramirez 1870-1878
FR Faustino Ramirez 1870-1878
SM Unknown possibly Francisco Sardaneta and Roman Mendoza 1878-1879
RR Unknown possibly Carlos Romero and Carlos Rodriguez Rey 1884-1890
Yes and possibly Carlos with Carlos Romero 1891-1900

Mexico mint:

JM Jose Garcia Anzaldo 1823-1832 (1822 since under Iturbide)
Yes
Unknown 1833-1842
Unknown 1836
Unknown 1848-1855
Unknown 1858-1860
Unknown 1860-1861 and 1863
Unknown 1863-1869
Unknown 1873-1874 and 1877-1890
Unknown 1874-1876
AM Adolph Medina 1890-1908
Yes

genosse

@PillarDollarCollector said:
Guanajuato mint:
Mexico mint:

Thank you very much!
I found almost all the information on the names of assayers in the annual almanacs (guía de forasteros), which were published in Mexico in the 19th century.
These almanacs contained a calendar, a list of religious holidays, and in addition, all government organizations and positions were listed and the people who occupied these positions were named.
So this is a contemporary source of information.

TheGoonies1985

@genosse said:

@PillarDollarCollector said:
Guanajuato mint:
Mexico mint:

Thank you very much!
I found almost all the information on the names of assayers in the annual almanacs (guía de forasteros), which were published in Mexico in the 19th century.
These almanacs contained a calendar, a list of religious holidays, and in addition, all government organizations and positions were listed and the people who occupied these positions were named.
So this is a contemporary source of information.

If you are a fan of this series I would suggest buying the book Resplandores. It is not a easy book to locate but they do show up from time to time. It cost about 150$-200$ US. But well worth the money.

This company sells books and coins and they have a copy for sale from time to time.

https://worldnumismatics.com/

Other places to look are eBay and posting an want to buy add in the proper world coin section of this forum.