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1829 Bust half

logger7logger7 Posts: 8,507 ✭✭✭✭✭

I picked up this 1829 Bust half today at a flea market. I assume no better variety.


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  • The_Dinosaur_ManThe_Dinosaur_Man Posts: 935 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a nice coin for a flea market. My luck hasn't seen anything old and decent in my years of going.

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,507 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not sure it would straight grade considering the marks to the right of the bust.

  • AtcarrollAtcarroll Posts: 399 ✭✭✭✭

    At first glance those marks to the right of the bust look like dentils from an off center strike that was almost completely obliterated by a centered second strike. Does the coin show any more signs of that in hand?

  • KensCoins2287KensCoins2287 Posts: 149 ✭✭✭

    @Atcarroll said:
    At first glance those marks to the right of the bust look like dentils from an off center strike that was almost completely obliterated by a centered second strike. Does the coin show any more signs of that in hand?

    I think that is exactly what that is! Heck of a flea market find!

    @jacrispies what do you think?

  • Davidk7Davidk7 Posts: 332 ✭✭✭✭

    I agree. Looks to be double struck.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,282 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's a lot of meat on the coin, I like 👍

  • AtcarrollAtcarroll Posts: 399 ✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    I'm not sure it would straight grade considering the marks to the right of the bust.

    I like it at XF45,

  • habaracahabaraca Posts: 2,003 ✭✭✭✭✭

    100% double struck quite a find there.......

  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @habaraca said:
    100% double struck quite a find there.......

    I'm not seeing what you're seeing, can you point it out?

  • Jacques_LoungecoqueJacques_Loungecoque Posts: 733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some big flea market finds as of late.
    Y’all are brave and I commend you!

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  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sweet.

  • Pnies20Pnies20 Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @alaura22 said:

    @habaraca said:
    100% double struck quite a find there.......

    I'm not seeing what you're seeing, can you point it out?

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  • Pnies20Pnies20 Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Overton 112

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  • KensCoins2287KensCoins2287 Posts: 149 ✭✭✭

    @alaura22 said:
    I'm not seeing what you're seeing, can you point it out?

    Note the scalloped marks, these I are the dentils from the original, off-centered strike. The coin was then struck again, properly centered this time, and this second strike apparently obliterated the original detail other than these dentil marks.

  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't see how those pics are good enough to draw that conclusion definitively.

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,507 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DelawareDoons said:
    I don't see how those pics are good enough to draw that conclusion definitively.

    Here are a couple more.

  • Davidk7Davidk7 Posts: 332 ✭✭✭✭

    Is that graffiti in the left obverse field?

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,507 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Davidk7 said:
    Is that graffiti in the left obverse field?

    Not seeing it; just stray marks.

  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DelawareDoons said:
    I don't see how those pics are good enough to draw that conclusion definitively.

    They're good enough.

  • RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 915 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:

    @DelawareDoons said:
    I don't see how those pics are good enough to draw that conclusion definitively.

    Here are a couple more.

    Abostutently double struck on the obv

  • Married2CoinsMarried2Coins Posts: 485 ✭✭✭

    @DelawareDoons said:
    I don't see how those pics are good enough to draw that conclusion definitively.

    The pics ARE good enough to show dentils that should not be there.

  • jacrispiesjacrispies Posts: 899 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Complete double strike, obverse was the hammer die for this marriage. All details were obliterated by the second strike except the small row of dentil tracks.

    Tough sell as a double strike to most because there are few details left, but a fun curiosity nonetheless. Total win!!

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  • jacrispiesjacrispies Posts: 899 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 27, 2024 12:10AM

    Here are some more dentil tracks in that same general area.


    thanks @habaraca

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  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,232 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could this be off center clash marks? It looks much like this.



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  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RobertScotLover said:

    @logger7 said:

    @DelawareDoons said:
    I don't see how those pics are good enough to draw that conclusion definitively.

    Here are a couple more.

    Abostutently double struck on the obv

    Absotutently?

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  • jacrispiesjacrispies Posts: 899 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ldhair said:
    Could this be off center clash marks? It looks much like this.

    Nope, the marks on your coin are raised. Dentil tracks are incuse and flush with the surface and no displaced metal.
    Here is a dentil tracked coin with a little detail from the undertype. I believe it is a flip over double strike. Dentil tracks in the eagle's shield and detail in the upper legend (OF AM).

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