Is that the dealer trying to make sense of the situation?
OUCH. That's a helluva list of nice items.
I guess I gotta ask, wouldn't you have the car alarm set and be in plain View of the car at all times with $100k Inside?
Expensive dinner or insured?
Dealers need to do like they do in the movies: Park one car in a large parking garage before the show. Then with your other car that all the lowlifes saw you leave the coin show in, drive into the large parking garage, switch cars and drive out (wearing a wig and fake stash' of course) in the car no one will recognize.
Any car alarm system should include anti-hijack devices such as a fuel cut off, piercing audible, strobe lighting, tracking device, dye pack unit. Peace Roy
I got this notice; a currency dealer leaving Central States got hit:
INVESTIGATING AGENCY: Des Plaine PD
REPORT NUMBER: N/A
TYPE OF INCIDENT: Vehicle Burglary
DATE OCCURRED: 5/4/24
INCIDENT LOCATION: Des Plaine, IL
Major Currency Loss
The owner of Emporium Coin & Currency traveling home from the Central States Numismatic Society coin show was the victim of a vehicle burglary in Des Plaines, IL. The victim stopped at a restaurant and while inside suspects broke out the window to his vehicle and removed several bags containing a large inventory of currency.
Stolen currency included a wide selection of Nationals, Obsoletes, Large & Small Type notes, Colonials, Fractionals, Errors, and Canadian notes.
The victim is currently working on a detailed list. However, any dealer who is offered a large quantity of notes should contact NCIC to determine if any of the notes are stolen.
NCIC will send out an update with further information once it is available from investigators.
The Tioga County, NY investigators are investigating a vehicle burglary that occurred on May 4, 2024. The victim, a dealer, who was traveling home from the Hershey Coin Club Show stopped to change a tire. While changing the tire, the suspects removed coins from the victim’s vehicle. Investigators are currently reviewing video footage from several locations. Preliminary investigation reveals that the suspects used several vehicles during the offense which occurred 150 miles from the show. Click on link below to review stolen coins.
Stolen Coins
NCIC will be sending out an updated alert on additional details, potential suspect, and vehicle information once additional information is provided by law enforcement officials.
Anyone with Information contact:
Doug Davis
817-723-7231
Doug@numismaticcrimes.org
Stolen Coins
1860-s $3 gold detail VF polished
3 - gold 1 oz American Eagles
1 - gold 1 oz Krug
5 - $5 Liberty head gold
5 - $5 Indian Head gold
5 - 1/10 oz gold American Eagles
2 - 1/4 oz gold American Eagles
24 greek/roman coins bronze and silver
~70 rings, mostly diamond
1678 Saint Patrick Farthing (2)
2 - 1694 Elephant token
1711-D French Colonies 30D
1721-H French Colonies 9D
1722 Woods Hibernia 1st Type Harp Left
1723 Rosa Americana Half Pence Crowned Rose
1723 Woods Hibernia Farthing
1739 Pillar Dollar
1747 Machins Mills colonial
1760 Voce Populi Farthing
1760 Voce Populi N-12
1760 Voce Populi P below bust
1767 French Colonies
2 - 1775 British Half Pence double struck
1775 Machins Mills 4-75a
1781 North American Token
1783 Washington & Independence half Pence struck ~4% off center
1783 Washington & Independence Unity States
1783 Washington Cent Large Military Bust clipped planchet
1785 Connecticut Copper 2-A,4
2 -1785 Vermont Copper Vermonts
1786 New Jersey Copper
1786 New Jersey Maris 11-H
1786 NewJersey Copper 21-O
2 - 1786 Vermont Copper
1786 Vermont Copper bust left
1786 Vermont copper Ryder 10 Rarity 4
1786 Vermont Copper Ryder 11 Bust Left type Ex. Eric Newman
1787 Connecticut Coppeer Horned Bust
1787 Connecticut Copper
1787 Connecticut Copper 4-L
2 - 1787 Machins Mills
1787 Massachusetts cent
1787 New Jersey Copper
1787 New Jersey Copper 64-u
2 - 1787 New Jersey Copper Maris 6-C
1787 New Jersey Copper Maris 63-s
1787 New Jersey copper Maris 64-u rarity 5+
1787 New Jersey Copper Maris 68-W
1787 New Jersey Copper Serpent Head
1787 New Jersey Maris 59-o
2 - 1787 Nova Eborac
1788 New Jersey Copper head left
1788 New Jersey Copper Running Fox
1791 Washington President Small Eagle Colonial
1794 Flowing Hair Large Cent S-36
1794 head of 94 Liberty Cap Large Cent
2 - 1794 Liberty Cap Large Cent
1794 Liberty Cap Large Cent Fallen 4
1795 Flowing Hair Large Cent lettered edge (s-75)
1795 Liberty Cap Half Cent
1795 Liberty Cap Large cent
1795 Liberty Cap Large Cent lettered edge s-74
1796 Draped Bust Large Cent LIHERTY
1796 Draped Bust Large Cent NC-1
1797 Draped Bust Large Cent double struck
2 - 1797 Draped Bust Large Cent reverse of 96
1798 Large Cent Reverse of 96
1801 Large Cent 3 errors
1803 Large Cent
1804 Draped Bust Half Cent Cohen-4
1805 Draped Bust Large Cent
1809 Capped Bust Half Dollar
1812 Classic Head Large Cent small date
1813 Capped Bust Half Dollar
1814 Large Cent plain 4
1817 Large Cent
1817 Large Cent 15 Stars
1818 Capped Bust Quarter
1818 Coronet Head N-2 reverse cud
1818 Liberty Quarter
1821 Capped Bust Dime
1823/2 Capped Bust Dime
1823/2 Large Cent
1826 Large Cent Newcomb-9
1828 Coronet Large Cent Newcomb-5 reverse cud
1831 Capped Bust Half Dime
1831 Capped Bust Half Dollar
1831 Large Cent
2 - 1835 Capped Bust Half Dollar
1835 Coronet Large Cent head of 36
1836 Capped Bust Half Dollar (O-115 R-3)
1836 Capped Bust Half Dollar O-109 Rarity-4
2 - 1837 Capped Bust Half Dollar reeded edge
1837 Feuchtwanger Cent
1837 Half Cent Token
1840 Seated Half Dollar
1841-o Seated Half Dime
1842 Large Cent (Large Date)
1843 Seated Half Dollar
1844 Seated Dime
1849 Seated Half Dollar
1851 Large Cent newcomb 37 LDS
1855 Half Cent
1855/54 Seated Half Dollar
1856 Seated Half Dime
1856 Seated Half Dime off center
1857 Large Cent small date
1857-D Washington Quarter
1858-s Seated Half Dollar
1859-o Seated Half Dollar
1859-s Seated Half Dollar
1862 Indian Cent Reverse Cud
1863 Indian Cent copper nickel, misaligned dies
1863 Indian Cent copper-nickel
1864 Indian Cent
1864 Two Cent Piece small motto
1869 Three Cent Nickel
2 - 1870 Two Cent Piece
1875-cc Trade Dollar
1876-cc Seated Dime
1876-cc Seated Half Dollar
2 - 1878-cc Morgan Dollar
2 - 1878-s Morgan Dollar
1880-o Morgan Dollar micro-o
2 - 1882 o/s Morgan Dollar
1882 o/s Morgan Dollar strong
1884-s Morgan Dollar
4 -1886-o Morgan Dollar
1888 Morgan Dollar
1889-cc Morgan Dollar
1889-O Morgan Dollar
2 - 1889-s Morgan Dollar
1890 Morgan Dollar
3 - 1890-s Morgan Dollar
1891-o Morgan Dollar
2 - 1891-s Morgan Dollar
1892 Barber Dime
2 - 1892 Morgan Dollar
1892-o Barber Dime
3 - 1892-o Morgan Dollar
4 - 1892-s Morgan Dollar
1893-cc Morgan Dollar
1894-o Morgan Dollar
1896 Barber Half Dollar
3 - 1896-o Barber Quarter
4 - 1896-o Morgan Dollar
1896-o Morgan Half Dollar
1896-s Morgan Dollar
1897 Barber Half Dollar
1897 Indian Cent
1897-o Barber Quarter
2 - 1897-o Morgan Dollar
1897-s Barber Quarter
1897-s Morgan Dollar
1898 Barber Quarter
1899-O Morgan Dollar micro o
1899-s Morgan Dollar
1900 o/cc Morgan Dollar
1900-o Barber Half Dollar
1901 Barber Half Dollar
2 - 1902 Barber Half Dollar
1902 Liberty Head Nickel
1903-s Morgan Dollar
2 -1904 Morgan Dollar
1904-o Barber Quarter
1904-s Barber Half Dollar
1905 Barber Quarter
1906 Indian Cent
1907-o Barber Half Dollar
1908-s Indian Cent
1909 Barber Dime
1909 Barber Half Dollar
1909 Indian Cent
1910 Lincoln Cent
1910-s Barber Half Dollar
1911 Liberty Head Nickel
1911 Lincoln cent
1912 Liberty Head Nickel
1912-D Barber Dime
1912-D Barber Half Dollar
1912-s Barber Half Dollar
2 - 1913 Barber Half Dollar
1913 Lincoln cent
1913-D Buffalo Nickel Type 1
1914 Lincoln Cent
1915 Barber Dime
1915 Barber Half Dollar
1915-D Barber Half Dollar
1915-s Buffalo Nickel
1916 Barber Dime
1916 Lincoln Cent
1916-D Barber Quarter
1916-D Buffalo Nickel
2 - 1917 Standing Liberty Quarter Type 1
1917 Standing Liberty Quarter Type 2
1917-D Buffalo Head Nickel
1917-D Standing Liberty Quarter Type 1
2 - 1918-D Walking Half Dollar
1918-s Buffalo Nickel
2 - 1918-s Walking Half Dollar
1919 Lincoln Cent
2 -1919-D Buffalo Nickel
2 - 1919-s Buffalo Nickel
2 - 1920-D Walking Liberty Half Dollar
2 -1921 Buffalo Nickel
2 -1921-s Buffalo Nickel
1923-s Buffalo Nickel
1924-s Buffalo Nickel
1925 Lexington Concord Commemorative
1925 Stone Mountain Commemorative
1925 Stone Mountain Commemorative
1925 Vancouver Commemorative
1926-D Standing Liberty Quarter
1926-s Standing Liberty Quarter
1927-D Standing Liberty Quarter
1927-s Standing Liberty Quarter
1928-s Standing Liberty Quarter
1929 Standing Liberty Quarter
1929-D Standing Liberty Half Dollar
1930 Standing Liberty Quarter
2 - 1931-s Lincoln Cent
1932-s Washington Quarter
1935 Peace Dollar
1938 D/D Buffalo Nickel
1939-D Walking Half Dollar
1940-D Mercury Head Dime
1946-s Washington Quarter
2 - 1948-D Franklin Half Dollar
1951-s Franklin Half Dollar
1953-D Franklin Half Dollar
2 - 1954 Franklin Half Dollar
The Tioga County, NY investigators are investigating a vehicle burglary that occurred on May 4, 2024. The victim, a dealer, who was traveling home from the Hershey Coin Club Show stopped to change a tire. While changing the tire, the suspects removed coins from the victim’s vehicle. Investigators are currently reviewing video footage from several locations. Preliminary investigation reveals that the suspects used several vehicles during the offense which occurred 150 miles from the show. Click on link below to review stolen coins.
Stolen Coins
NCIC will be sending out an updated alert on additional details, potential suspect, and vehicle information once additional information is provided by law enforcement officials.
Anyone with Information contact:
Doug Davis
817-723-7231
Doug@numismaticcrimes.org
Stolen Coins
1860-s $3 gold detail VF polished
3 - gold 1 oz American Eagles
1 - gold 1 oz Krug
5 - $5 Liberty head gold
5 - $5 Indian Head gold
5 - 1/10 oz gold American Eagles
2 - 1/4 oz gold American Eagles
24 greek/roman coins bronze and silver
~70 rings, mostly diamond
1678 Saint Patrick Farthing (2)
2 - 1694 Elephant token
1711-D French Colonies 30D
1721-H French Colonies 9D
1722 Woods Hibernia 1st Type Harp Left
1723 Rosa Americana Half Pence Crowned Rose
1723 Woods Hibernia Farthing
1739 Pillar Dollar
1747 Machins Mills colonial
1760 Voce Populi Farthing
1760 Voce Populi N-12
1760 Voce Populi P below bust
1767 French Colonies
2 - 1775 British Half Pence double struck
1775 Machins Mills 4-75a
1781 North American Token
1783 Washington & Independence half Pence struck ~4% off center
1783 Washington & Independence Unity States
1783 Washington Cent Large Military Bust clipped planchet
1785 Connecticut Copper 2-A,4
2 -1785 Vermont Copper Vermonts
1786 New Jersey Copper
1786 New Jersey Maris 11-H
1786 NewJersey Copper 21-O
2 - 1786 Vermont Copper
1786 Vermont Copper bust left
1786 Vermont copper Ryder 10 Rarity 4
1786 Vermont Copper Ryder 11 Bust Left type Ex. Eric Newman
1787 Connecticut Coppeer Horned Bust
1787 Connecticut Copper
1787 Connecticut Copper 4-L
2 - 1787 Machins Mills
1787 Massachusetts cent
1787 New Jersey Copper
1787 New Jersey Copper 64-u
2 - 1787 New Jersey Copper Maris 6-C
1787 New Jersey Copper Maris 63-s
1787 New Jersey copper Maris 64-u rarity 5+
1787 New Jersey Copper Maris 68-W
1787 New Jersey Copper Serpent Head
1787 New Jersey Maris 59-o
2 - 1787 Nova Eborac
1788 New Jersey Copper head left
1788 New Jersey Copper Running Fox
1791 Washington President Small Eagle Colonial
1794 Flowing Hair Large Cent S-36
1794 head of 94 Liberty Cap Large Cent
2 - 1794 Liberty Cap Large Cent
1794 Liberty Cap Large Cent Fallen 4
1795 Flowing Hair Large Cent lettered edge (s-75)
1795 Liberty Cap Half Cent
1795 Liberty Cap Large cent
1795 Liberty Cap Large Cent lettered edge s-74
1796 Draped Bust Large Cent LIHERTY
1796 Draped Bust Large Cent NC-1
1797 Draped Bust Large Cent double struck
2 - 1797 Draped Bust Large Cent reverse of 96
1798 Large Cent Reverse of 96
1801 Large Cent 3 errors
1803 Large Cent
1804 Draped Bust Half Cent Cohen-4
1805 Draped Bust Large Cent
1809 Capped Bust Half Dollar
1812 Classic Head Large Cent small date
1813 Capped Bust Half Dollar
1814 Large Cent plain 4
1817 Large Cent
1817 Large Cent 15 Stars
1818 Capped Bust Quarter
1818 Coronet Head N-2 reverse cud
1818 Liberty Quarter
1821 Capped Bust Dime
1823/2 Capped Bust Dime
1823/2 Large Cent
1826 Large Cent Newcomb-9
1828 Coronet Large Cent Newcomb-5 reverse cud
1831 Capped Bust Half Dime
1831 Capped Bust Half Dollar
1831 Large Cent
2 - 1835 Capped Bust Half Dollar
1835 Coronet Large Cent head of 36
1836 Capped Bust Half Dollar (O-115 R-3)
1836 Capped Bust Half Dollar O-109 Rarity-4
2 - 1837 Capped Bust Half Dollar reeded edge
1837 Feuchtwanger Cent
1837 Half Cent Token
1840 Seated Half Dollar
1841-o Seated Half Dime
1842 Large Cent (Large Date)
1843 Seated Half Dollar
1844 Seated Dime
1849 Seated Half Dollar
1851 Large Cent newcomb 37 LDS
1855 Half Cent
1855/54 Seated Half Dollar
1856 Seated Half Dime
1856 Seated Half Dime off center
1857 Large Cent small date
1857-D Washington Quarter
1858-s Seated Half Dollar
1859-o Seated Half Dollar
1859-s Seated Half Dollar
1862 Indian Cent Reverse Cud
1863 Indian Cent copper nickel, misaligned dies
1863 Indian Cent copper-nickel
1864 Indian Cent
1864 Two Cent Piece small motto
1869 Three Cent Nickel
2 - 1870 Two Cent Piece
1875-cc Trade Dollar
1876-cc Seated Dime
1876-cc Seated Half Dollar
2 - 1878-cc Morgan Dollar
2 - 1878-s Morgan Dollar
1880-o Morgan Dollar micro-o
2 - 1882 o/s Morgan Dollar
1882 o/s Morgan Dollar strong
1884-s Morgan Dollar
4 -1886-o Morgan Dollar
1888 Morgan Dollar
1889-cc Morgan Dollar
1889-O Morgan Dollar
2 - 1889-s Morgan Dollar
1890 Morgan Dollar
3 - 1890-s Morgan Dollar
1891-o Morgan Dollar
2 - 1891-s Morgan Dollar
1892 Barber Dime
2 - 1892 Morgan Dollar
1892-o Barber Dime
3 - 1892-o Morgan Dollar
4 - 1892-s Morgan Dollar
1893-cc Morgan Dollar
1894-o Morgan Dollar
1896 Barber Half Dollar
3 - 1896-o Barber Quarter
4 - 1896-o Morgan Dollar
1896-o Morgan Half Dollar
1896-s Morgan Dollar
1897 Barber Half Dollar
1897 Indian Cent
1897-o Barber Quarter
2 - 1897-o Morgan Dollar
1897-s Barber Quarter
1897-s Morgan Dollar
1898 Barber Quarter
1899-O Morgan Dollar micro o
1899-s Morgan Dollar
1900 o/cc Morgan Dollar
1900-o Barber Half Dollar
1901 Barber Half Dollar
2 - 1902 Barber Half Dollar
1902 Liberty Head Nickel
1903-s Morgan Dollar
2 -1904 Morgan Dollar
1904-o Barber Quarter
1904-s Barber Half Dollar
1905 Barber Quarter
1906 Indian Cent
1907-o Barber Half Dollar
1908-s Indian Cent
1909 Barber Dime
1909 Barber Half Dollar
1909 Indian Cent
1910 Lincoln Cent
1910-s Barber Half Dollar
1911 Liberty Head Nickel
1911 Lincoln cent
1912 Liberty Head Nickel
1912-D Barber Dime
1912-D Barber Half Dollar
1912-s Barber Half Dollar
2 - 1913 Barber Half Dollar
1913 Lincoln cent
1913-D Buffalo Nickel Type 1
1914 Lincoln Cent
1915 Barber Dime
1915 Barber Half Dollar
1915-D Barber Half Dollar
1915-s Buffalo Nickel
1916 Barber Dime
1916 Lincoln Cent
1916-D Barber Quarter
1916-D Buffalo Nickel
2 - 1917 Standing Liberty Quarter Type 1
1917 Standing Liberty Quarter Type 2
1917-D Buffalo Head Nickel
1917-D Standing Liberty Quarter Type 1
2 - 1918-D Walking Half Dollar
1918-s Buffalo Nickel
2 - 1918-s Walking Half Dollar
1919 Lincoln Cent
2 -1919-D Buffalo Nickel
2 - 1919-s Buffalo Nickel
2 - 1920-D Walking Liberty Half Dollar
2 -1921 Buffalo Nickel
2 -1921-s Buffalo Nickel
1923-s Buffalo Nickel
1924-s Buffalo Nickel
1925 Lexington Concord Commemorative
1925 Stone Mountain Commemorative
1925 Stone Mountain Commemorative
1925 Vancouver Commemorative
1926-D Standing Liberty Quarter
1926-s Standing Liberty Quarter
1927-D Standing Liberty Quarter
1927-s Standing Liberty Quarter
1928-s Standing Liberty Quarter
1929 Standing Liberty Quarter
1929-D Standing Liberty Half Dollar
1930 Standing Liberty Quarter
2 - 1931-s Lincoln Cent
1932-s Washington Quarter
1935 Peace Dollar
1938 D/D Buffalo Nickel
1939-D Walking Half Dollar
1940-D Mercury Head Dime
1946-s Washington Quarter
2 - 1948-D Franklin Half Dollar
1951-s Franklin Half Dollar
1953-D Franklin Half Dollar
2 - 1954 Franklin Half Dollar
This one was disturbing. Reads like possibly perps set up the dealer. Cause a slow leak and follow until he has to stop and change the tire. Multiple cars used suggests a larger group of thieves and not some lone scumbag using random opportunity.
This isn’t some smash and grab while the car is unattended. The victim is close by working on the car and the chance of situation turning into an armed robbery or other violent crime is increasing.
The Tioga County, NY investigators are investigating a vehicle burglary that occurred on May 4, 2024. The victim, a dealer, who was traveling home from the Hershey Coin Club Show stopped to change a tire. While changing the tire, the suspects removed coins from the victim’s vehicle. Investigators are currently reviewing video footage from several locations. Preliminary investigation reveals that the suspects used several vehicles during the offense which occurred 150 miles from the show. Click on link below to review stolen coins.
Stolen Coins
NCIC will be sending out an updated alert on additional details, potential suspect, and vehicle information once additional information is provided by law enforcement officials.
Anyone with Information contact:
Doug Davis
817-723-7231
Doug@numismaticcrimes.org
Stolen Coins
1860-s $3 gold detail VF polished
3 - gold 1 oz American Eagles
1 - gold 1 oz Krug
5 - $5 Liberty head gold
5 - $5 Indian Head gold
5 - 1/10 oz gold American Eagles
2 - 1/4 oz gold American Eagles
24 greek/roman coins bronze and silver
~70 rings, mostly diamond
1678 Saint Patrick Farthing (2)
2 - 1694 Elephant token
1711-D French Colonies 30D
1721-H French Colonies 9D
1722 Woods Hibernia 1st Type Harp Left
1723 Rosa Americana Half Pence Crowned Rose
1723 Woods Hibernia Farthing
1739 Pillar Dollar
1747 Machins Mills colonial
1760 Voce Populi Farthing
1760 Voce Populi N-12
1760 Voce Populi P below bust
1767 French Colonies
2 - 1775 British Half Pence double struck
1775 Machins Mills 4-75a
1781 North American Token
1783 Washington & Independence half Pence struck ~4% off center
1783 Washington & Independence Unity States
1783 Washington Cent Large Military Bust clipped planchet
1785 Connecticut Copper 2-A,4
2 -1785 Vermont Copper Vermonts
1786 New Jersey Copper
1786 New Jersey Maris 11-H
1786 NewJersey Copper 21-O
2 - 1786 Vermont Copper
1786 Vermont Copper bust left
1786 Vermont copper Ryder 10 Rarity 4
1786 Vermont Copper Ryder 11 Bust Left type Ex. Eric Newman
1787 Connecticut Coppeer Horned Bust
1787 Connecticut Copper
1787 Connecticut Copper 4-L
2 - 1787 Machins Mills
1787 Massachusetts cent
1787 New Jersey Copper
1787 New Jersey Copper 64-u
2 - 1787 New Jersey Copper Maris 6-C
1787 New Jersey Copper Maris 63-s
1787 New Jersey copper Maris 64-u rarity 5+
1787 New Jersey Copper Maris 68-W
1787 New Jersey Copper Serpent Head
1787 New Jersey Maris 59-o
2 - 1787 Nova Eborac
1788 New Jersey Copper head left
1788 New Jersey Copper Running Fox
1791 Washington President Small Eagle Colonial
1794 Flowing Hair Large Cent S-36
1794 head of 94 Liberty Cap Large Cent
2 - 1794 Liberty Cap Large Cent
1794 Liberty Cap Large Cent Fallen 4
1795 Flowing Hair Large Cent lettered edge (s-75)
1795 Liberty Cap Half Cent
1795 Liberty Cap Large cent
1795 Liberty Cap Large Cent lettered edge s-74
1796 Draped Bust Large Cent LIHERTY
1796 Draped Bust Large Cent NC-1
1797 Draped Bust Large Cent double struck
2 - 1797 Draped Bust Large Cent reverse of 96
1798 Large Cent Reverse of 96
1801 Large Cent 3 errors
1803 Large Cent
1804 Draped Bust Half Cent Cohen-4
1805 Draped Bust Large Cent
1809 Capped Bust Half Dollar
1812 Classic Head Large Cent small date
1813 Capped Bust Half Dollar
1814 Large Cent plain 4
1817 Large Cent
1817 Large Cent 15 Stars
1818 Capped Bust Quarter
1818 Coronet Head N-2 reverse cud
1818 Liberty Quarter
1821 Capped Bust Dime
1823/2 Capped Bust Dime
1823/2 Large Cent
1826 Large Cent Newcomb-9
1828 Coronet Large Cent Newcomb-5 reverse cud
1831 Capped Bust Half Dime
1831 Capped Bust Half Dollar
1831 Large Cent
2 - 1835 Capped Bust Half Dollar
1835 Coronet Large Cent head of 36
1836 Capped Bust Half Dollar (O-115 R-3)
1836 Capped Bust Half Dollar O-109 Rarity-4
2 - 1837 Capped Bust Half Dollar reeded edge
1837 Feuchtwanger Cent
1837 Half Cent Token
1840 Seated Half Dollar
1841-o Seated Half Dime
1842 Large Cent (Large Date)
1843 Seated Half Dollar
1844 Seated Dime
1849 Seated Half Dollar
1851 Large Cent newcomb 37 LDS
1855 Half Cent
1855/54 Seated Half Dollar
1856 Seated Half Dime
1856 Seated Half Dime off center
1857 Large Cent small date
1857-D Washington Quarter
1858-s Seated Half Dollar
1859-o Seated Half Dollar
1859-s Seated Half Dollar
1862 Indian Cent Reverse Cud
1863 Indian Cent copper nickel, misaligned dies
1863 Indian Cent copper-nickel
1864 Indian Cent
1864 Two Cent Piece small motto
1869 Three Cent Nickel
2 - 1870 Two Cent Piece
1875-cc Trade Dollar
1876-cc Seated Dime
1876-cc Seated Half Dollar
2 - 1878-cc Morgan Dollar
2 - 1878-s Morgan Dollar
1880-o Morgan Dollar micro-o
2 - 1882 o/s Morgan Dollar
1882 o/s Morgan Dollar strong
1884-s Morgan Dollar
4 -1886-o Morgan Dollar
1888 Morgan Dollar
1889-cc Morgan Dollar
1889-O Morgan Dollar
2 - 1889-s Morgan Dollar
1890 Morgan Dollar
3 - 1890-s Morgan Dollar
1891-o Morgan Dollar
2 - 1891-s Morgan Dollar
1892 Barber Dime
2 - 1892 Morgan Dollar
1892-o Barber Dime
3 - 1892-o Morgan Dollar
4 - 1892-s Morgan Dollar
1893-cc Morgan Dollar
1894-o Morgan Dollar
1896 Barber Half Dollar
3 - 1896-o Barber Quarter
4 - 1896-o Morgan Dollar
1896-o Morgan Half Dollar
1896-s Morgan Dollar
1897 Barber Half Dollar
1897 Indian Cent
1897-o Barber Quarter
2 - 1897-o Morgan Dollar
1897-s Barber Quarter
1897-s Morgan Dollar
1898 Barber Quarter
1899-O Morgan Dollar micro o
1899-s Morgan Dollar
1900 o/cc Morgan Dollar
1900-o Barber Half Dollar
1901 Barber Half Dollar
2 - 1902 Barber Half Dollar
1902 Liberty Head Nickel
1903-s Morgan Dollar
2 -1904 Morgan Dollar
1904-o Barber Quarter
1904-s Barber Half Dollar
1905 Barber Quarter
1906 Indian Cent
1907-o Barber Half Dollar
1908-s Indian Cent
1909 Barber Dime
1909 Barber Half Dollar
1909 Indian Cent
1910 Lincoln Cent
1910-s Barber Half Dollar
1911 Liberty Head Nickel
1911 Lincoln cent
1912 Liberty Head Nickel
1912-D Barber Dime
1912-D Barber Half Dollar
1912-s Barber Half Dollar
2 - 1913 Barber Half Dollar
1913 Lincoln cent
1913-D Buffalo Nickel Type 1
1914 Lincoln Cent
1915 Barber Dime
1915 Barber Half Dollar
1915-D Barber Half Dollar
1915-s Buffalo Nickel
1916 Barber Dime
1916 Lincoln Cent
1916-D Barber Quarter
1916-D Buffalo Nickel
2 - 1917 Standing Liberty Quarter Type 1
1917 Standing Liberty Quarter Type 2
1917-D Buffalo Head Nickel
1917-D Standing Liberty Quarter Type 1
2 - 1918-D Walking Half Dollar
1918-s Buffalo Nickel
2 - 1918-s Walking Half Dollar
1919 Lincoln Cent
2 -1919-D Buffalo Nickel
2 - 1919-s Buffalo Nickel
2 - 1920-D Walking Liberty Half Dollar
2 -1921 Buffalo Nickel
2 -1921-s Buffalo Nickel
1923-s Buffalo Nickel
1924-s Buffalo Nickel
1925 Lexington Concord Commemorative
1925 Stone Mountain Commemorative
1925 Stone Mountain Commemorative
1925 Vancouver Commemorative
1926-D Standing Liberty Quarter
1926-s Standing Liberty Quarter
1927-D Standing Liberty Quarter
1927-s Standing Liberty Quarter
1928-s Standing Liberty Quarter
1929 Standing Liberty Quarter
1929-D Standing Liberty Half Dollar
1930 Standing Liberty Quarter
2 - 1931-s Lincoln Cent
1932-s Washington Quarter
1935 Peace Dollar
1938 D/D Buffalo Nickel
1939-D Walking Half Dollar
1940-D Mercury Head Dime
1946-s Washington Quarter
2 - 1948-D Franklin Half Dollar
1951-s Franklin Half Dollar
1953-D Franklin Half Dollar
2 - 1954 Franklin Half Dollar
This one was disturbing. Reads like possibly perps set up the dealer. Cause a slow leak and follow until he has to stop and change the tire. Multiple cars used suggests a larger group of thieves and not some lone scumbag using random opportunity.
This isn’t some smash and grab while the car is unattended. The victim is close by working on the car and the chance of situation turning into an armed robbery or other violent crime is increasing.
My question is how do thieves break into a vehicle and steal the goods while the dealer is changing the tire? He could have called AAA to do that and kept his vehicle doors locked.
The Tioga County, NY investigators are investigating a vehicle burglary that occurred on May 4, 2024. The victim, a dealer, who was traveling home from the Hershey Coin Club Show stopped to change a tire. While changing the tire, the suspects removed coins from the victim’s vehicle. Investigators are currently reviewing video footage from several locations. Preliminary investigation reveals that the suspects used several vehicles during the offense which occurred 150 miles from the show. Click on link below to review stolen coins.
Stolen Coins
NCIC will be sending out an updated alert on additional details, potential suspect, and vehicle information once additional information is provided by law enforcement officials.
Anyone with Information contact:
Doug Davis
817-723-7231
Doug@numismaticcrimes.org
Stolen Coins
1860-s $3 gold detail VF polished
3 - gold 1 oz American Eagles
1 - gold 1 oz Krug
5 - $5 Liberty head gold
5 - $5 Indian Head gold
5 - 1/10 oz gold American Eagles
2 - 1/4 oz gold American Eagles
24 greek/roman coins bronze and silver
~70 rings, mostly diamond
1678 Saint Patrick Farthing (2)
2 - 1694 Elephant token
1711-D French Colonies 30D
1721-H French Colonies 9D
1722 Woods Hibernia 1st Type Harp Left
1723 Rosa Americana Half Pence Crowned Rose
1723 Woods Hibernia Farthing
1739 Pillar Dollar
1747 Machins Mills colonial
1760 Voce Populi Farthing
1760 Voce Populi N-12
1760 Voce Populi P below bust
1767 French Colonies
2 - 1775 British Half Pence double struck
1775 Machins Mills 4-75a
1781 North American Token
1783 Washington & Independence half Pence struck ~4% off center
1783 Washington & Independence Unity States
1783 Washington Cent Large Military Bust clipped planchet
1785 Connecticut Copper 2-A,4
2 -1785 Vermont Copper Vermonts
1786 New Jersey Copper
1786 New Jersey Maris 11-H
1786 NewJersey Copper 21-O
2 - 1786 Vermont Copper
1786 Vermont Copper bust left
1786 Vermont copper Ryder 10 Rarity 4
1786 Vermont Copper Ryder 11 Bust Left type Ex. Eric Newman
1787 Connecticut Coppeer Horned Bust
1787 Connecticut Copper
1787 Connecticut Copper 4-L
2 - 1787 Machins Mills
1787 Massachusetts cent
1787 New Jersey Copper
1787 New Jersey Copper 64-u
2 - 1787 New Jersey Copper Maris 6-C
1787 New Jersey Copper Maris 63-s
1787 New Jersey copper Maris 64-u rarity 5+
1787 New Jersey Copper Maris 68-W
1787 New Jersey Copper Serpent Head
1787 New Jersey Maris 59-o
2 - 1787 Nova Eborac
1788 New Jersey Copper head left
1788 New Jersey Copper Running Fox
1791 Washington President Small Eagle Colonial
1794 Flowing Hair Large Cent S-36
1794 head of 94 Liberty Cap Large Cent
2 - 1794 Liberty Cap Large Cent
1794 Liberty Cap Large Cent Fallen 4
1795 Flowing Hair Large Cent lettered edge (s-75)
1795 Liberty Cap Half Cent
1795 Liberty Cap Large cent
1795 Liberty Cap Large Cent lettered edge s-74
1796 Draped Bust Large Cent LIHERTY
1796 Draped Bust Large Cent NC-1
1797 Draped Bust Large Cent double struck
2 - 1797 Draped Bust Large Cent reverse of 96
1798 Large Cent Reverse of 96
1801 Large Cent 3 errors
1803 Large Cent
1804 Draped Bust Half Cent Cohen-4
1805 Draped Bust Large Cent
1809 Capped Bust Half Dollar
1812 Classic Head Large Cent small date
1813 Capped Bust Half Dollar
1814 Large Cent plain 4
1817 Large Cent
1817 Large Cent 15 Stars
1818 Capped Bust Quarter
1818 Coronet Head N-2 reverse cud
1818 Liberty Quarter
1821 Capped Bust Dime
1823/2 Capped Bust Dime
1823/2 Large Cent
1826 Large Cent Newcomb-9
1828 Coronet Large Cent Newcomb-5 reverse cud
1831 Capped Bust Half Dime
1831 Capped Bust Half Dollar
1831 Large Cent
2 - 1835 Capped Bust Half Dollar
1835 Coronet Large Cent head of 36
1836 Capped Bust Half Dollar (O-115 R-3)
1836 Capped Bust Half Dollar O-109 Rarity-4
2 - 1837 Capped Bust Half Dollar reeded edge
1837 Feuchtwanger Cent
1837 Half Cent Token
1840 Seated Half Dollar
1841-o Seated Half Dime
1842 Large Cent (Large Date)
1843 Seated Half Dollar
1844 Seated Dime
1849 Seated Half Dollar
1851 Large Cent newcomb 37 LDS
1855 Half Cent
1855/54 Seated Half Dollar
1856 Seated Half Dime
1856 Seated Half Dime off center
1857 Large Cent small date
1857-D Washington Quarter
1858-s Seated Half Dollar
1859-o Seated Half Dollar
1859-s Seated Half Dollar
1862 Indian Cent Reverse Cud
1863 Indian Cent copper nickel, misaligned dies
1863 Indian Cent copper-nickel
1864 Indian Cent
1864 Two Cent Piece small motto
1869 Three Cent Nickel
2 - 1870 Two Cent Piece
1875-cc Trade Dollar
1876-cc Seated Dime
1876-cc Seated Half Dollar
2 - 1878-cc Morgan Dollar
2 - 1878-s Morgan Dollar
1880-o Morgan Dollar micro-o
2 - 1882 o/s Morgan Dollar
1882 o/s Morgan Dollar strong
1884-s Morgan Dollar
4 -1886-o Morgan Dollar
1888 Morgan Dollar
1889-cc Morgan Dollar
1889-O Morgan Dollar
2 - 1889-s Morgan Dollar
1890 Morgan Dollar
3 - 1890-s Morgan Dollar
1891-o Morgan Dollar
2 - 1891-s Morgan Dollar
1892 Barber Dime
2 - 1892 Morgan Dollar
1892-o Barber Dime
3 - 1892-o Morgan Dollar
4 - 1892-s Morgan Dollar
1893-cc Morgan Dollar
1894-o Morgan Dollar
1896 Barber Half Dollar
3 - 1896-o Barber Quarter
4 - 1896-o Morgan Dollar
1896-o Morgan Half Dollar
1896-s Morgan Dollar
1897 Barber Half Dollar
1897 Indian Cent
1897-o Barber Quarter
2 - 1897-o Morgan Dollar
1897-s Barber Quarter
1897-s Morgan Dollar
1898 Barber Quarter
1899-O Morgan Dollar micro o
1899-s Morgan Dollar
1900 o/cc Morgan Dollar
1900-o Barber Half Dollar
1901 Barber Half Dollar
2 - 1902 Barber Half Dollar
1902 Liberty Head Nickel
1903-s Morgan Dollar
2 -1904 Morgan Dollar
1904-o Barber Quarter
1904-s Barber Half Dollar
1905 Barber Quarter
1906 Indian Cent
1907-o Barber Half Dollar
1908-s Indian Cent
1909 Barber Dime
1909 Barber Half Dollar
1909 Indian Cent
1910 Lincoln Cent
1910-s Barber Half Dollar
1911 Liberty Head Nickel
1911 Lincoln cent
1912 Liberty Head Nickel
1912-D Barber Dime
1912-D Barber Half Dollar
1912-s Barber Half Dollar
2 - 1913 Barber Half Dollar
1913 Lincoln cent
1913-D Buffalo Nickel Type 1
1914 Lincoln Cent
1915 Barber Dime
1915 Barber Half Dollar
1915-D Barber Half Dollar
1915-s Buffalo Nickel
1916 Barber Dime
1916 Lincoln Cent
1916-D Barber Quarter
1916-D Buffalo Nickel
2 - 1917 Standing Liberty Quarter Type 1
1917 Standing Liberty Quarter Type 2
1917-D Buffalo Head Nickel
1917-D Standing Liberty Quarter Type 1
2 - 1918-D Walking Half Dollar
1918-s Buffalo Nickel
2 - 1918-s Walking Half Dollar
1919 Lincoln Cent
2 -1919-D Buffalo Nickel
2 - 1919-s Buffalo Nickel
2 - 1920-D Walking Liberty Half Dollar
2 -1921 Buffalo Nickel
2 -1921-s Buffalo Nickel
1923-s Buffalo Nickel
1924-s Buffalo Nickel
1925 Lexington Concord Commemorative
1925 Stone Mountain Commemorative
1925 Stone Mountain Commemorative
1925 Vancouver Commemorative
1926-D Standing Liberty Quarter
1926-s Standing Liberty Quarter
1927-D Standing Liberty Quarter
1927-s Standing Liberty Quarter
1928-s Standing Liberty Quarter
1929 Standing Liberty Quarter
1929-D Standing Liberty Half Dollar
1930 Standing Liberty Quarter
2 - 1931-s Lincoln Cent
1932-s Washington Quarter
1935 Peace Dollar
1938 D/D Buffalo Nickel
1939-D Walking Half Dollar
1940-D Mercury Head Dime
1946-s Washington Quarter
2 - 1948-D Franklin Half Dollar
1951-s Franklin Half Dollar
1953-D Franklin Half Dollar
2 - 1954 Franklin Half Dollar
This one was disturbing. Reads like possibly perps set up the dealer. Cause a slow leak and follow until he has to stop and change the tire. Multiple cars used suggests a larger group of thieves and not some lone scumbag using random opportunity.
This isn’t some smash and grab while the car is unattended. The victim is close by working on the car and the chance of situation turning into an armed robbery or other violent crime is increasing.
My question is how do thieves break into a vehicle and steal the goods while the dealer is changing the tire? He could have called AAA to do that and kept his vehicle doors locked.
That’s my point. Thief has to assume dealer will be close to car if this was a setup. Which means they were likely prepared for an assault if necessary.
There are countless videos online showing thieves sneaking up to people pumping gas in their car and opening passenger doors to steal phones, purses etc. maybe they did that.
Airports can be very dangerous. My inventory carry on - don’t let it leave my sight. Once in overhead bin on plane / if somebody wants me switch seats away from inventory (screwball passenger for instance) - hell no.
So if somebody asks you to switch seats they are a screwball? What if they promise not to kick the tires?
So what the heck if I do. What I call them is my business. The strategic thing is not to lose control of my inventory. Had a guy saying he was a minister trying a stunt like that on a plane one time. Maybe he was maybe not. Wanted me swap off seat w his wife about 10 rows back (he said taking her to a funeral) I blocked the attempt. Too bad so sad for him. When screwball incidents like that happen (in transit with inventory) you have to be on the ball. I did offer flag down the stewardess (seat them elsewhere) he declined. It could be they had been me from the waiting area carrying a big rather heavy bc. The odds his bs legit way out there. Don’t let your guard down looking out for number one. When I told a dealer friend that who specialized in world gold coins. He told me airports most dangerous “that racket they probably saw you at the show then in waiting lobby (Newark) then on the plane. Way to go, good catch.”
Airports can be very dangerous. My inventory carry on - don’t let it leave my sight. Once in overhead bin on plane / if somebody wants me switch seats away from inventory (screwball passenger for instance) - hell no.
So if somebody asks you to switch seats they are a screwball? What if they promise not to kick the tires?
Don’t let your guard down looking out for number one.
Thanks for your advice but I'm more concerned with number two🙄
Airports can be very dangerous. My inventory carry on - don’t let it leave my sight. Once in overhead bin on plane / if somebody wants me switch seats away from inventory (screwball passenger for instance) - hell no.
So if somebody asks you to switch seats they are a screwball? What if they promise not to kick the tires?
Don’t let your guard down looking out for number one.
Thanks for your advice but I'm more concerned with number two🙄
Airports can be very dangerous. My inventory carry on - don’t let it leave my sight. Once in overhead bin on plane / if somebody wants me switch seats away from inventory (screwball passenger for instance) - hell no.
So if somebody asks you to switch seats they are a screwball? What if they promise not to kick the tires?
Don’t let your guard down looking out for number one.
Thanks for your advice but I'm more concerned with number two🙄
Buy a box of Depends and put your mind to rest.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
A dealer attending the Salem-Roanoke coin show in Salem, VA was the victim of a vehicle burglary after leaving the show for the evening on 6/1/24 and stopped at a restaurant to eat. The victim went inside the restaurant and when he returned to his vehicle unknown suspects had broken out the rear window and removed his inventory. The victim had taken his coins out of the show cases to take back to the hotel instead of leaving them at the show. No suspect or vehicle information is available at this time.
Partial Listing of Stolen Coins:
5- boxes of large cents in various grades (raw)
Group of New Jersey Obsoletes
CSA $500 1864 (T-64) PMG 63 Ch Unc s/n20308 ppB
Virginial Colonial FR VA-125 s/n2920
Continental Currency FR CC88 s/n68843
Raw and slabbed coins various dates and grades
INVESTIGATING AGENCY: Crete PD
REPORT NUMBER: N/A
TYPE OF INCIDENT: Strong Armed Robbery
DATE OCCURRED: 5/25/24
INCIDENT LOCATION: Crete, IL
On May 25, 2024, a dealer, traveling home from a show in Crown Point, Indiana was the victim of a brazen theft that occurred in Crete, Il. The victim stopped to eat and while in the restaurant, two suspect vehicles pulled up on both sides of the victims vehicle. The suspects then broke the victim’s van window and grabbed totes with the victims inventory. The incident was captured by the restaurant parking lot video and took less than one minute. The suspect vehicles were described as a blue Odyssey and a blue Dodge Caravan.
Partial Listing of Stolen Inventory: (Dealer working on detailed list)
Another east of that Mississippi "incident." Why doesn't it surprise me?
"It'll heppen to someone else, not me."
BTW go to any coin show, small, medium, large and what do you usually see behind dealer tables?
Large frame males w/large to huge bellies.
Suffice to say they are the main targets for the following reasons:
1. Somewhere on the way home, they'll have to stop to eat
2. The theives know that they're easier targets.
3. And even if they fought back they would be no match against multiple, younger, slimmer crooks.
@mikee999 said:
Another east of that Mississippi "incident." Why doesn't it surprise me?
"It'll heppen to someone else, not me."
BTW go to any coin show, small, medium, large and what do you usually see behind dealer tables?
Large frame males w/large to huge bellies.
Suffice to say they are the main targets for the following reasons:
1. Somewhere on the way home, they'll have to stop to eat
2. The theives know that they're easier targets.
3. And even if they fought back they would be no match against multiple, younger, slimmer crooks.
My nickels worth.
This is ridiculously prejudiced.
Coin dealers are targets because they carry around tens of thousands of dollars worth of precious metals that are easy to sell. It is not because you think they are out of shape.
Well, the obvious takeaway is “pack a lunch and eat in the car” for the drive home. And make sure you have enough gas to get home.
Of course, even if you do that, you may be followed home. I would drive to the nearest police station in that scenario, but would be interested in hearing what others would do.
Finally, where do dealers typically go when transporting substantial inventory in the car? Do they go home? I guess if they have a well-secured office or shop with a vault they would go there first.
@Connecticoin said:
Well, the obvious takeaway is “pack a lunch and eat in the car” for the drive home. And make sure you have enough gas to get home.
Of course, even if you do that, you may be followed home. I would drive to the nearest police station in that scenario, but would be interested in hearing what others would do.
Finally, where do dealers typically go when transporting substantial inventory in the car? Do they go home? I guess if they have a well-secured office or shop with a vault they would go there first.
How do they get that "beer belly" in the first place. By eating home made healthy sandwiches or salads?
How about junk food at the show, on the way home. Go read some of Penny Lady's show reports and see pics of dealers wine & dine at fancy restaurants.
@Connecticoin said:
Well, the obvious takeaway is “pack a lunch and eat in the car” for the drive home. And make sure you have enough gas to get home.
Of course, even if you do that, you may be followed home. I would drive to the nearest police station in that scenario, but would be interested in hearing what others would do.
Finally, where do dealers typically go when transporting substantial inventory in the car? Do they go home? I guess if they have a well-secured office or shop with a vault they would go there first.
How do they get that "beer belly" in the first place. By eating home made healthy sandwiches or salads?
How about junk food at the show, on the way home. Go read some of Penny Lady's show reports and see pics of dealers wine & dine at fancy restaurants.
Unfortunately most of us struggle trying to keep our weight down, the quality, availability and price of much food these days has gone up a lot. It's not hard to lower your guard as crime is not something most people expect, let alone someone following for many miles waiting for a pull off opportunity. 20 or so years ago I made dumb mistakes similar to this and the thieves have gotten a lot more aggressive. There are few opportunities like this for thieves that greatly rival the swag gained by bank robberies where the FBI and law enforcement has a much higher chance of interdiction._
A man’s belly size is irrelevant to his ability to rapidly acquire a target and squeeze. What surprises me is how many of these rips are occurring in freedom states. Guess a lot of dealers are choosing to avoid situational awareness and thus the ability to ventilate those committing felonious acts.
I’ll tell you what, once a couple of these miscreants get tagged the rest might think of finding even easier targets. This economy sucks and people are going to get theirs, or actually yours, one way or the other. This coupled with a massive influx of organized criminal organizations from Central and South America is a recipe for disaster.
Be on guard folks. Be prepared to defend your property, but most of all - YOUR LIFE!
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@golden said:
I sure am sad to hear about the latest break-in, but dealers have to start thinking.
Yeah with their bellies.
Ever seen or heard of a skinny coin dealer getting robbed?
If so do tell.
Could you please post pictures of all the people robbed in the stories on this thread? Other than sheer bigotry, you have no indication that they weigh more than 160 pounds.
You will also note that these individuals were NOT confronted by the thieves. The thieves waited for an opportunity to simply grab the coins when unattended. The victims could all have been, and might all have been, 30 years old and ripped as well as strapped.
It's scary how easy it is to do this kind of crime. Do all dealers transport their own inventory? Do people just rely on their guns? The last thing I'd want is a gunfight over dumb coins. Are thefts like this covered by insurance? It seems like stopping to eat after the show would be a coverage exception. I feel less inclined to haggle the next time I'm at a show.
@golden said:
I sure am sad to hear about the latest break-in, but dealers have to start thinking.
Yeah with their bellies.
Ever seen or heard of a skinny coin dealer getting robbed?
If so do tell.
Could you please post pictures of all the people robbed in the stories on this thread? Other than sheer bigotry, you have no indication that they weigh more than 160 pounds.
@golden said:
I sure am sad to hear about the latest break-in, but dealers have to start thinking.
Yeah with their bellies.
Ever seen or heard of a skinny coin dealer getting robbed?
If so do tell.
Aren’t you the one that got taken for the fake gold eagle? Are you skinny? Any more rocks to throw at glass houses?
Yes but I'm 5-4, 110 lbs.
What does being scammed have to do with being a victim of a robbery?
I've known people who went on a plant-based diet together with a complement of vitamins and got taken out by cancer! Weight can have a positive and healthy effect dealing with stress.
How much are these guys carrying to these local shows? Why not put your most valuable coins in a backpack and wear it into the store/restaurant? If the thieves steal the junk/dreck, it sucks but damages have been mitigated.
@DMWJR said:
How much are these guys carrying to these local shows? Why not put your most valuable coins in a backpack and wear it into the store/restaurant? If the thieves steal the junk/dreck, it sucks but damages have been mitigated.
Some people carry far too much to carry it on their back. It's not usually 20 $5000 coins. It's 500 $200 coins.
People are somewhat missing the point, I think. They are being FOLLOWED. I'm not sure going home solves the problem. You're just bringing the thieves home with you.
@DMWJR said:
How much are these guys carrying to these local shows? Why not put your most valuable coins in a backpack and wear it into the store/restaurant? If the thieves steal the junk/dreck, it sucks but damages have been mitigated.
Some people carry far too much to carry it on their back. It's not usually 20 $5000 coins. It's 500 $200 coins.
@DMWJR said:
How much are these guys carrying to these local shows? Why not put your most valuable coins in a backpack and wear it into the store/restaurant? If the thieves steal the junk/dreck, it sucks but damages have been mitigated.
Some people carry far too much to carry it on their back. It's not usually 20 $5000 coins. It's 500 $200 coins.
500 1oz coins = 31.25 lbs.
And that's 25 boxes of 20. It's not the weight. It's the volume.
@DMWJR said:
How much are these guys carrying to these local shows? Why not put your most valuable coins in a backpack and wear it into the store/restaurant? If the thieves steal the junk/dreck, it sucks but damages have been mitigated.
Actually a dealer friend of mine does, or at least used to, do that. His most valuable items would be in a medium sized carrying case and he took those in with him. The dreck was in totes and stayed in the car.
@golden said:
I sure am sad to hear about the latest break-in, but dealers have to start thinking.
Yeah with their bellies.
Ever seen or heard of a skinny coin dealer getting robbed?
If so do tell.
Could you please post pictures of all the people robbed in the stories on this thread? Other than sheer bigotry, you have no indication that they weigh more than 160 pounds.
You will also note that these individuals were NOT confronted by the thieves. The thieves waited for an opportunity to simply grab the coins when unattended. The victims could all have been, and might all have been, 30 years old and ripped as well as strapped.
Ripped coin dealers? LOL! That would be a very rare coin dealer.
@golden said:
Maybe an announcement should be made at the end of a show to not stop and go inside a restaurant to eat on the way home.
See my original post. Some dealers refuse to listen to reason.
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Well, all you can do is minimize your risk. I remember very well in 2007 when a dealer was robbed at knife point right in front of the lobby in 2007 at the Peabody (Hilton now). I came upon the scene right after it happened. Very disturbing!
@RiveraFamilyCollect said:
It's unfortunate, but until Dealer become harder targets this will keep happening.
A large dog in the car might have detoured these thieves. Dogs are always armed.
Gun store's keep large dogs on premise. Coin stores might need to do the same now.
Don't think a dog left in a car idea would fly today. Animal rights activists would be all over you and likely report it to authorities.
Isn’t that the cleverness of it? You’ll be surrounded by authorities, and the thieves won’t rob you.
@RiveraFamilyCollect said:
It's unfortunate, but until Dealer become harder targets this will keep happening.
A large dog in the car might have detoured these thieves. Dogs are always armed.
Gun store's keep large dogs on premise. Coin stores might need to do the same now.
Don't think a dog left in a car idea would fly today. Animal rights activists would be all over you and likely report it to authorities.
Isn’t that the cleverness of it? You’ll be surrounded by authorities, and the thieves won’t rob you.
Actually, the animal advocates will break the window to get the dog out and make it easier on the thieves.
For the love of God, don't leave your vehicle unattended for any reason when transporting coins. At least have a safe bolted to the car for the high end stuff and have dummy bags filled with junk that are totally visible for the perps to grab.
Even if you are not a dealer and make a purchase at a coin show, the parking lot can get scary too. I always check the exit before leaving and leave during daylight hours too. A smash and grab can happen to anyone these days. If you think someone is following you home, just head the nearest police station that you can find or to a parked police. Be cautious and try to be safe too.
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Is that the dealer trying to make sense of the situation?
OUCH. That's a helluva list of nice items.
I guess I gotta ask, wouldn't you have the car alarm set and be in plain View of the car at all times with $100k Inside?
Expensive dinner or insured?
Vantrue has some very good and inexpensive dash cams.
I also keep a special Addy for receiving my purchases after a discussion with local postmaster on mail fraud schemes.
Is smash and grab is better than a gun to the head?
Darn if I want to find out.
Luckily, materialsm is something I have sworn off.
Nothing worth dying or killing over, and I have dealt with alot of thieves and con men.
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Dealers need to do like they do in the movies: Park one car in a large parking garage before the show. Then with your other car that all the lowlifes saw you leave the coin show in, drive into the large parking garage, switch cars and drive out (wearing a wig and fake stash' of course) in the car no one will recognize.
Voila, home free!
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I got this notice; a currency dealer leaving Central States got hit:
INVESTIGATING AGENCY: Des Plaine PD
REPORT NUMBER: N/A
TYPE OF INCIDENT: Vehicle Burglary
DATE OCCURRED: 5/4/24
INCIDENT LOCATION: Des Plaine, IL
Major Currency Loss
The owner of Emporium Coin & Currency traveling home from the Central States Numismatic Society coin show was the victim of a vehicle burglary in Des Plaines, IL. The victim stopped at a restaurant and while inside suspects broke out the window to his vehicle and removed several bags containing a large inventory of currency.
Stolen currency included a wide selection of Nationals, Obsoletes, Large & Small Type notes, Colonials, Fractionals, Errors, and Canadian notes.
The victim is currently working on a detailed list. However, any dealer who is offered a large quantity of notes should contact NCIC to determine if any of the notes are stolen.
NCIC will send out an update with further information once it is available from investigators.
Anyone with Information contact:
Doug Davis
817-723-7231
Doug@numismaticcrimes.org
Here's another one:
INVESTIGATING AGENCY: Tioga Sheriff's Dept.
REPORT NUMBER: 24T-04379
TYPE OF INCIDENT: Vehicle Burglary
DATE OCCURRED: 5/4/24
INCIDENT LOCATION: Tioga County, NY
The Tioga County, NY investigators are investigating a vehicle burglary that occurred on May 4, 2024. The victim, a dealer, who was traveling home from the Hershey Coin Club Show stopped to change a tire. While changing the tire, the suspects removed coins from the victim’s vehicle. Investigators are currently reviewing video footage from several locations. Preliminary investigation reveals that the suspects used several vehicles during the offense which occurred 150 miles from the show. Click on link below to review stolen coins.
Stolen Coins
NCIC will be sending out an updated alert on additional details, potential suspect, and vehicle information once additional information is provided by law enforcement officials.
Anyone with Information contact:
Doug Davis
817-723-7231
Doug@numismaticcrimes.org
Stolen Coins
1860-s $3 gold detail VF polished
3 - gold 1 oz American Eagles
1 - gold 1 oz Krug
5 - $5 Liberty head gold
5 - $5 Indian Head gold
5 - 1/10 oz gold American Eagles
2 - 1/4 oz gold American Eagles
24 greek/roman coins bronze and silver
~70 rings, mostly diamond
1678 Saint Patrick Farthing (2)
2 - 1694 Elephant token
1711-D French Colonies 30D
1721-H French Colonies 9D
1722 Woods Hibernia 1st Type Harp Left
1723 Rosa Americana Half Pence Crowned Rose
1723 Woods Hibernia Farthing
1739 Pillar Dollar
1747 Machins Mills colonial
1760 Voce Populi Farthing
1760 Voce Populi N-12
1760 Voce Populi P below bust
1767 French Colonies
2 - 1775 British Half Pence double struck
1775 Machins Mills 4-75a
1781 North American Token
1783 Washington & Independence half Pence struck ~4% off center
1783 Washington & Independence Unity States
1783 Washington Cent Large Military Bust clipped planchet
1785 Connecticut Copper 2-A,4
2 -1785 Vermont Copper Vermonts
1786 New Jersey Copper
1786 New Jersey Maris 11-H
1786 NewJersey Copper 21-O
2 - 1786 Vermont Copper
1786 Vermont Copper bust left
1786 Vermont copper Ryder 10 Rarity 4
1786 Vermont Copper Ryder 11 Bust Left type Ex. Eric Newman
1787 Connecticut Coppeer Horned Bust
1787 Connecticut Copper
1787 Connecticut Copper 4-L
2 - 1787 Machins Mills
1787 Massachusetts cent
1787 New Jersey Copper
1787 New Jersey Copper 64-u
2 - 1787 New Jersey Copper Maris 6-C
1787 New Jersey Copper Maris 63-s
1787 New Jersey copper Maris 64-u rarity 5+
1787 New Jersey Copper Maris 68-W
1787 New Jersey Copper Serpent Head
1787 New Jersey Maris 59-o
2 - 1787 Nova Eborac
1788 New Jersey Copper head left
1788 New Jersey Copper Running Fox
1791 Washington President Small Eagle Colonial
1794 Flowing Hair Large Cent S-36
1794 head of 94 Liberty Cap Large Cent
2 - 1794 Liberty Cap Large Cent
1794 Liberty Cap Large Cent Fallen 4
1795 Flowing Hair Large Cent lettered edge (s-75)
1795 Liberty Cap Half Cent
1795 Liberty Cap Large cent
1795 Liberty Cap Large Cent lettered edge s-74
1796 Draped Bust Large Cent LIHERTY
1796 Draped Bust Large Cent NC-1
1797 Draped Bust Large Cent double struck
2 - 1797 Draped Bust Large Cent reverse of 96
1798 Large Cent Reverse of 96
1801 Large Cent 3 errors
1803 Large Cent
1804 Draped Bust Half Cent Cohen-4
1805 Draped Bust Large Cent
1809 Capped Bust Half Dollar
1812 Classic Head Large Cent small date
1813 Capped Bust Half Dollar
1814 Large Cent plain 4
1817 Large Cent
1817 Large Cent 15 Stars
1818 Capped Bust Quarter
1818 Coronet Head N-2 reverse cud
1818 Liberty Quarter
1821 Capped Bust Dime
1823/2 Capped Bust Dime
1823/2 Large Cent
1826 Large Cent Newcomb-9
1828 Coronet Large Cent Newcomb-5 reverse cud
1831 Capped Bust Half Dime
1831 Capped Bust Half Dollar
1831 Large Cent
2 - 1835 Capped Bust Half Dollar
1835 Coronet Large Cent head of 36
1836 Capped Bust Half Dollar (O-115 R-3)
1836 Capped Bust Half Dollar O-109 Rarity-4
2 - 1837 Capped Bust Half Dollar reeded edge
1837 Feuchtwanger Cent
1837 Half Cent Token
1840 Seated Half Dollar
1841-o Seated Half Dime
1842 Large Cent (Large Date)
1843 Seated Half Dollar
1844 Seated Dime
1849 Seated Half Dollar
1851 Large Cent newcomb 37 LDS
1855 Half Cent
1855/54 Seated Half Dollar
1856 Seated Half Dime
1856 Seated Half Dime off center
1857 Large Cent small date
1857-D Washington Quarter
1858-s Seated Half Dollar
1859-o Seated Half Dollar
1859-s Seated Half Dollar
1862 Indian Cent Reverse Cud
1863 Indian Cent copper nickel, misaligned dies
1863 Indian Cent copper-nickel
1864 Indian Cent
1864 Two Cent Piece small motto
1869 Three Cent Nickel
2 - 1870 Two Cent Piece
1875-cc Trade Dollar
1876-cc Seated Dime
1876-cc Seated Half Dollar
2 - 1878-cc Morgan Dollar
2 - 1878-s Morgan Dollar
1880-o Morgan Dollar micro-o
2 - 1882 o/s Morgan Dollar
1882 o/s Morgan Dollar strong
1884-s Morgan Dollar
4 -1886-o Morgan Dollar
1888 Morgan Dollar
1889-cc Morgan Dollar
1889-O Morgan Dollar
2 - 1889-s Morgan Dollar
1890 Morgan Dollar
3 - 1890-s Morgan Dollar
1891-o Morgan Dollar
2 - 1891-s Morgan Dollar
1892 Barber Dime
2 - 1892 Morgan Dollar
1892-o Barber Dime
3 - 1892-o Morgan Dollar
4 - 1892-s Morgan Dollar
1893-cc Morgan Dollar
1894-o Morgan Dollar
1896 Barber Half Dollar
3 - 1896-o Barber Quarter
4 - 1896-o Morgan Dollar
1896-o Morgan Half Dollar
1896-s Morgan Dollar
1897 Barber Half Dollar
1897 Indian Cent
1897-o Barber Quarter
2 - 1897-o Morgan Dollar
1897-s Barber Quarter
1897-s Morgan Dollar
1898 Barber Quarter
1899-O Morgan Dollar micro o
1899-s Morgan Dollar
1900 o/cc Morgan Dollar
1900-o Barber Half Dollar
1901 Barber Half Dollar
2 - 1902 Barber Half Dollar
1902 Liberty Head Nickel
1903-s Morgan Dollar
2 -1904 Morgan Dollar
1904-o Barber Quarter
1904-s Barber Half Dollar
1905 Barber Quarter
1906 Indian Cent
1907-o Barber Half Dollar
1908-s Indian Cent
1909 Barber Dime
1909 Barber Half Dollar
1909 Indian Cent
1910 Lincoln Cent
1910-s Barber Half Dollar
1911 Liberty Head Nickel
1911 Lincoln cent
1912 Liberty Head Nickel
1912-D Barber Dime
1912-D Barber Half Dollar
1912-s Barber Half Dollar
2 - 1913 Barber Half Dollar
1913 Lincoln cent
1913-D Buffalo Nickel Type 1
1914 Lincoln Cent
1915 Barber Dime
1915 Barber Half Dollar
1915-D Barber Half Dollar
1915-s Buffalo Nickel
1916 Barber Dime
1916 Lincoln Cent
1916-D Barber Quarter
1916-D Buffalo Nickel
2 - 1917 Standing Liberty Quarter Type 1
1917 Standing Liberty Quarter Type 2
1917-D Buffalo Head Nickel
1917-D Standing Liberty Quarter Type 1
2 - 1918-D Walking Half Dollar
1918-s Buffalo Nickel
2 - 1918-s Walking Half Dollar
1919 Lincoln Cent
2 -1919-D Buffalo Nickel
2 - 1919-s Buffalo Nickel
2 - 1920-D Walking Liberty Half Dollar
2 -1921 Buffalo Nickel
2 -1921-s Buffalo Nickel
1923-s Buffalo Nickel
1924-s Buffalo Nickel
1925 Lexington Concord Commemorative
1925 Stone Mountain Commemorative
1925 Stone Mountain Commemorative
1925 Vancouver Commemorative
1926-D Standing Liberty Quarter
1926-s Standing Liberty Quarter
1927-D Standing Liberty Quarter
1927-s Standing Liberty Quarter
1928-s Standing Liberty Quarter
1929 Standing Liberty Quarter
1929-D Standing Liberty Half Dollar
1930 Standing Liberty Quarter
2 - 1931-s Lincoln Cent
1932-s Washington Quarter
1935 Peace Dollar
1938 D/D Buffalo Nickel
1939-D Walking Half Dollar
1940-D Mercury Head Dime
1946-s Washington Quarter
2 - 1948-D Franklin Half Dollar
1951-s Franklin Half Dollar
1953-D Franklin Half Dollar
2 - 1954 Franklin Half Dollar
This one was disturbing. Reads like possibly perps set up the dealer. Cause a slow leak and follow until he has to stop and change the tire. Multiple cars used suggests a larger group of thieves and not some lone scumbag using random opportunity.
This isn’t some smash and grab while the car is unattended. The victim is close by working on the car and the chance of situation turning into an armed robbery or other violent crime is increasing.
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My question is how do thieves break into a vehicle and steal the goods while the dealer is changing the tire? He could have called AAA to do that and kept his vehicle doors locked.
That’s my point. Thief has to assume dealer will be close to car if this was a setup. Which means they were likely prepared for an assault if necessary.
There are countless videos online showing thieves sneaking up to people pumping gas in their car and opening passenger doors to steal phones, purses etc. maybe they did that.
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So what the heck if I do. What I call them is my business. The strategic thing is not to lose control of my inventory. Had a guy saying he was a minister trying a stunt like that on a plane one time. Maybe he was maybe not. Wanted me swap off seat w his wife about 10 rows back (he said taking her to a funeral) I blocked the attempt. Too bad so sad for him. When screwball incidents like that happen (in transit with inventory) you have to be on the ball. I did offer flag down the stewardess (seat them elsewhere) he declined. It could be they had been me from the waiting area carrying a big rather heavy bc. The odds his bs legit way out there. Don’t let your guard down looking out for number one. When I told a dealer friend that who specialized in world gold coins. He told me airports most dangerous “that racket they probably saw you at the show then in waiting lobby (Newark) then on the plane. Way to go, good catch.”
How can we build a better mousetrap?
Slab an Airtag? But they give off noise signals.
Always thought this would be an option. PCGS/NGC Slab with magicians coin holding technology?
Dealing with multiple attackers, vehicles, stolen plates points to organized crime.
Not unlike stolen artwork. It is an asset for criminals to trade.
Lucky there was no violence.
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Thanks for your advice but I'm more concerned with number two🙄
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Ok well best of luck.
Is it possible to get local law enforcement could cruise the parking lot scanning license plates.
Got to be ways to be proactive if stolen plates and multiple vehicles are part of the robbery
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Buy a box of Depends and put your mind to rest.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
NCIC recorded two more of these:
INVESTIGATING AGENCY: Salem PD
REPORT NUMBER: Not Available
TYPE OF INCIDENT: BURGLARY/Vehicle
DATE OCCURRED: 6/1/24
INCIDENT LOCATION: Salem, VA
A dealer attending the Salem-Roanoke coin show in Salem, VA was the victim of a vehicle burglary after leaving the show for the evening on 6/1/24 and stopped at a restaurant to eat. The victim went inside the restaurant and when he returned to his vehicle unknown suspects had broken out the rear window and removed his inventory. The victim had taken his coins out of the show cases to take back to the hotel instead of leaving them at the show. No suspect or vehicle information is available at this time.
Partial Listing of Stolen Coins:
5- boxes of large cents in various grades (raw)
Group of New Jersey Obsoletes
CSA $500 1864 (T-64) PMG 63 Ch Unc s/n20308 ppB
Virginial Colonial FR VA-125 s/n2920
Continental Currency FR CC88 s/n68843
Raw and slabbed coins various dates and grades
INVESTIGATING AGENCY: Crete PD
REPORT NUMBER: N/A
TYPE OF INCIDENT: Strong Armed Robbery
DATE OCCURRED: 5/25/24
INCIDENT LOCATION: Crete, IL
On May 25, 2024, a dealer, traveling home from a show in Crown Point, Indiana was the victim of a brazen theft that occurred in Crete, Il. The victim stopped to eat and while in the restaurant, two suspect vehicles pulled up on both sides of the victims vehicle. The suspects then broke the victim’s van window and grabbed totes with the victims inventory. The incident was captured by the restaurant parking lot video and took less than one minute. The suspect vehicles were described as a blue Odyssey and a blue Dodge Caravan.
Partial Listing of Stolen Inventory: (Dealer working on detailed list)
Double row boxes containing raw Bust half dollars, Twenty Cent pieces, Seated halves, Silver dollars, Barber halves
Examples of coins housed in 2x2's and suspects below.
Anyone with Information contact:
Doug Davis
817-723-7231
Doug@numismaticcrimes.org
Another east of that Mississippi "incident." Why doesn't it surprise me?
"It'll heppen to someone else, not me."
BTW go to any coin show, small, medium, large and what do you usually see behind dealer tables?
Large frame males w/large to huge bellies.
Suffice to say they are the main targets for the following reasons:
1. Somewhere on the way home, they'll have to stop to eat
2. The theives know that they're easier targets.
3. And even if they fought back they would be no match against multiple, younger, slimmer crooks.
My nickels worth.
This is ridiculously prejudiced.
Coin dealers are targets because they carry around tens of thousands of dollars worth of precious metals that are easy to sell. It is not because you think they are out of shape.
Jeez..
Well, the obvious takeaway is “pack a lunch and eat in the car” for the drive home. And make sure you have enough gas to get home.
Of course, even if you do that, you may be followed home. I would drive to the nearest police station in that scenario, but would be interested in hearing what others would do.
Finally, where do dealers typically go when transporting substantial inventory in the car? Do they go home? I guess if they have a well-secured office or shop with a vault they would go there first.
How do they get that "beer belly" in the first place. By eating home made healthy sandwiches or salads?
How about junk food at the show, on the way home. Go read some of Penny Lady's show reports and see pics of dealers wine & dine at fancy restaurants.
Unfortunately most of us struggle trying to keep our weight down, the quality, availability and price of much food these days has gone up a lot. It's not hard to lower your guard as crime is not something most people expect, let alone someone following for many miles waiting for a pull off opportunity. 20 or so years ago I made dumb mistakes similar to this and the thieves have gotten a lot more aggressive. There are few opportunities like this for thieves that greatly rival the swag gained by bank robberies where the FBI and law enforcement has a much higher chance of interdiction._
I sure am sad to hear about the latest break-in, but dealers have to start thinking.
A man’s belly size is irrelevant to his ability to rapidly acquire a target and squeeze. What surprises me is how many of these rips are occurring in freedom states. Guess a lot of dealers are choosing to avoid situational awareness and thus the ability to ventilate those committing felonious acts.
I’ll tell you what, once a couple of these miscreants get tagged the rest might think of finding even easier targets. This economy sucks and people are going to get theirs, or actually yours, one way or the other. This coupled with a massive influx of organized criminal organizations from Central and South America is a recipe for disaster.
Be on guard folks. Be prepared to defend your property, but most of all - YOUR LIFE!
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Aren’t you the one that got taken for the fake gold eagle? Are you skinny? Any more rocks to throw at glass houses?
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Could you please post pictures of all the people robbed in the stories on this thread? Other than sheer bigotry, you have no indication that they weigh more than 160 pounds.
You will also note that these individuals were NOT confronted by the thieves. The thieves waited for an opportunity to simply grab the coins when unattended. The victims could all have been, and might all have been, 30 years old and ripped as well as strapped.
Yes but I'm 5-4, 110 lbs.
What does being scammed have to do with being a victim of a robbery?
It's scary how easy it is to do this kind of crime. Do all dealers transport their own inventory? Do people just rely on their guns? The last thing I'd want is a gunfight over dumb coins. Are thefts like this covered by insurance? It seems like stopping to eat after the show would be a coverage exception. I feel less inclined to haggle the next time I'm at a show.
good Lord, are you actually a female member of the forum? congratulations, you're part of the good .01%
Before leaving a show, visit the restroom, have a doggie bag with food, get in your car and get home.
"Seu cabra da peste,
"Sou Mangueira......."
I've known people who went on a plant-based diet together with a complement of vitamins and got taken out by cancer! Weight can have a positive and healthy effect dealing with stress.
What does size have to do with it? You're the one that introduced size.
I'm sure that prospective thieves will be suitably put off by your 110 pounds and would prefer to grapple with the 250 pound guy.
How much are these guys carrying to these local shows? Why not put your most valuable coins in a backpack and wear it into the store/restaurant? If the thieves steal the junk/dreck, it sucks but damages have been mitigated.
Maybe an announcement should be made at the end of a show to not stop and go inside a restaurant to eat on the way home.
How do they even have the room to eat anymore after half a dozen mustard dogs?
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Some people carry far too much to carry it on their back. It's not usually 20 $5000 coins. It's 500 $200 coins.
People are somewhat missing the point, I think. They are being FOLLOWED. I'm not sure going home solves the problem. You're just bringing the thieves home with you.
500 1oz coins = 31.25 lbs.
Or pickled eggs.
And that's 25 boxes of 20. It's not the weight. It's the volume.
Not a bad suggestion. I would love to see some of these low lifes going by the moniker 'Lefty'!
Actually a dealer friend of mine does, or at least used to, do that. His most valuable items would be in a medium sized carrying case and he took those in with him. The dreck was in totes and stayed in the car.
,,,> @jmlanzaf said:
Ripped coin dealers? LOL! That would be a very rare coin dealer.
See my original post. Some dealers refuse to listen to reason.
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Well, all you can do is minimize your risk. I remember very well in 2007 when a dealer was robbed at knife point right in front of the lobby in 2007 at the Peabody (Hilton now). I came upon the scene right after it happened. Very disturbing!
Isn’t that the cleverness of it? You’ll be surrounded by authorities, and the thieves won’t rob you.
Actually, the animal advocates will break the window to get the dog out and make it easier on the thieves.
For the love of God, don't leave your vehicle unattended for any reason when transporting coins. At least have a safe bolted to the car for the high end stuff and have dummy bags filled with junk that are totally visible for the perps to grab.
Even if you are not a dealer and make a purchase at a coin show, the parking lot can get scary too. I always check the exit before leaving and leave during daylight hours too. A smash and grab can happen to anyone these days. If you think someone is following you home, just head the nearest police station that you can find or to a parked police. Be cautious and try to be safe too.
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