Real or Fake? 1797 Dime
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I wouldn't buy it without it first being slabbed by a major grading service as being genuine. Looks heavily corroded so it may be a metal detector find.
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It is a counterfeit.
The two Obverse varieties have either 9 or 7stars on the left and 7 or 6 on the right.
The example posted only has 8 on the left side.
Looking on Coin Facts I see 7 or 9 stars on the left. Your coin has 8, so I vote fake.
https://pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1797-10c-16-stars/4462
Sugar magnolia blossoms blooming, heads all empty and I don't care ...
The date does look all wrong. Could it be a real coin with an altered date?
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Very counterfeit, even the LIBERTY is too high and stars wrong. Too much to consider.
Jim
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I think It’s a real 15 star coin half dime. But F to hell
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
Here is the half dime, much better match
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
So, it appears to actually be a 1797 half dime rather than a dime as described by the seller.
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crap photo, for sure
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I agree crap photo, and the surfaces are f'ed up, how ever it does match the LM-1 obv at least, I could not match the reverse but with the notable die cracks I have to believe it is genuine details of course
What’s the story @CoinHoarder, did you buy it?
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
No. My sister sent me the picture, since she knows I collect coins. I told her it looked counterfeit. However, I told her that I would consult with the experts on this forum, to find out for sure. I forwarded her the link to this thread. I would never even consider buying a coin this ugly, real or not. I appreciate all the input.
Was $650 a good price for this 1797 half dime considering that we've pretty much established that it's authentic?
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
It comes closest to the 16 star variety which always has a big die crack above the date. That means it should have nine stars on the left. It doesn't.
Here's another example of the 15 star half dime which has eight stars on the left.
Bill,
the description of at least the obverse in the Logan McCloskey H10c book reads:
"Only use of Obverse 1 (15 stars, 8 left, 7 right).Die crack develops from rim to S2. Die crack develops from rim at lower right thru drapery, thru bust, up thru neck and check to forehead, on thru upright of T to rim. Another crack develops from rim thru the digit 9 and on to the neck where it joins the first crack."
Does anyone have an opinion? I'm no expert in this series and I'm curious if the buyer got a good deal. The coin has what appears to be extensive corrosion but the date is sharp and there's plenty of design detail to identify it as an early US half dime.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire