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Raw 1920 S Dime, Whatcha Think (I’m Ducking)

7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭✭✭

Just got home his on an overseas venture, have at it. Only thing I can say is other than dipping - not me - the in-hand lustre better than photos:






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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,114 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No need to duck...watermellons are out of season.

    On a serious note- looks to be a great strike and likely worthy of FSB. I am having a tough time with the fields/surfaces. I think an in hand look would be needed to just develop a comfort level to offer the best possible opinion. Something tells me it looks better in hand.

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,002 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is that damage from upper I to B to E to R? Perhaps similar to counting wheel damage? Just looks like it is a pattern to me. JMO
    Jim


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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The images show a FB example that’s either AU or Unc. - that’s about all I’m confident of without better pictures.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 20, 2024 6:13AM

    CK Kind Sir, will you be at Baltimore show in June - I will show it to you there if you like?

    Mark, I agree & don't know why these seem to pixellate (or whatever is going on) & probably need an update on my iPhone 11S. I don't detect any hairlines but think the coin was dipped. I will see if I can do better than the above pictures later today.

    Don't like the mild dip too much but the coin does appear very well struck with FSB and edges of coin even practically finned in spots (also with little evidence of scuff).

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a dipped 65 FS.

    Pretty nice for a San Francisco made coin.

    The 1920-S Buffs are crap.

    Pete

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  • RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely need better photos for as full and realistic assessment of photos as one can do. The color and lighting and sharpness is all off, making the surfaces appear odd imo

  • Jacques_LoungecoqueJacques_Loungecoque Posts: 733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pics are fuzzy so surfaces looks grainy. Over dipped , or dipped too many times?

    Having fun while switching things up and focusing on a next level PCGS slabbed 1950+ type set, while still looking for great examples for the 7070.

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,522 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Overdipped, damaged.

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First, I am no expert on Mercury dimes. Couple of things I would be looking at very carefully if in hand:

    The cheek finish does appear somewhat granular- uneven surfaces. Rub? AU? Helped in some way?

    Also, has the split band been 'helped'?

    ----- kj
  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,476 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 21, 2024 12:41AM

    Early Winged Liberty Head dimes typically have a rippled texture to the luster, like the subject coin.
    I see some sort of small defect or mark on the jaw.

    To me it looks like a MS-62 FB.
    I would not classify it as "damaged".
    It may have been "dipped", but if so, I doubt that the coin was heavily toned prior to that.
    So I think it would grade and is "market acceptable".

    The photos are too granular to have high confidence in that assessment, however.

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, I don't seem to manage pictures well, as in this post and particularly if you look back at similar purchases that I posted on the 1872 S Half and 1905 O quarter that got similar [appropriate] commentary but ended up graded MS63 and MS64 at our hosts.
    The bands are natural and unmolested, I will put two more obverse pictures in the next post as the jaw is "clean" IMHO. I am at a loss as to how the very good lustre does not show in the pictures. Sorry to beat a dead horse.

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 21, 2024 4:22AM

    Maybe this shows the jawline better - now the cheek looks to have grazing which it does not in hand with the lustre still not showing! Actually cartwheels on the reverse.


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    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BuffaloIronTail said:
    It's a dipped 65 FS.

    Pretty nice for a San Francisco made coin.

    The 1920-S Buffs are crap.

    Pete

    I strongly disagree with your “FS” designation, though I’d settle on “FB”.

    As for grade, there’s no way to provide a meaningful grade guess from those images.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @7Jaguars I read above that you are using a camera phone. It seems like it is not focusing on the dime. I don't know apple phones and if you are doing this, but when taking the photo tap the screen where the dime is located. This should tell the phone camera to do its thing (focus and light) in that spot. There might be some setup / settings that do something similar. Can test it out by just pointing the camera at a room with a light source (not a close up). Tap the screen where the light source is and then other areas. If you see adjustments to the photo screen, then I would think it is working.

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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks! Will try that

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 21, 2024 6:30AM



    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those photos give a much nicer look. Nice coin!

    ----- kj
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,868 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on last photo looks like 64FB shot 5. Unless there are hairlines not showing

  • WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Getting closer. Suspect it will show more accurate if you can get the lighting angle just right.

    Now after using all those different backgrounds it might get called out for "carpet friction". :o

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @BuffaloIronTail said:
    It's a dipped 65 FS.

    Pretty nice for a San Francisco made coin.

    The 1920-S Buffs are crap.

    Pete

    I strongly disagree with your “FS” designation, though I’d settle on “FB”.

    As for grade, there’s no way to provide a meaningful grade guess from those images.

    I see why, Mark. Thinking nickels again.

    Although my comment was a "step" in the right direction.

    Pete

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