What do you think about ebay sellers using rare coin photos from CoinFacts to sell lesser quality...
leothelyon
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coins? Came across such a seller doing just that, using photos of rare full step Jeffersons to sell coins that are not FS nor rare. When I asked if I would receive the coin he had pictured in his auction, his reply was that, "I might receive the coin pictured". I haven't responded to the liar yet. But what perspective would the owners of such coins have learning that photos of their coins are being used by ebay sellers to basically deceive buyers into thinking they're buying the coin pictured in the auction?
I'm thinking about giving this seller the chance/opportunity to remove those photos from two of his sales before I out him. There's so much garbage going on with our hobby today that I almost don't want to even care..... Maybe you're one of these type of sellers....why do you use other people's coins for deception and profit? Perhaps posters here can write the response i need to respond to this seller with. What say you?
Leo
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It is against eBay policy to use photos other than those from the coin being sold.
This is misrepresenting the actual coin. It can be reported to eBay.
People will try every scam if they have the opportunity.
The substantial truth doctrine is an important defense in defamation law that allows individuals to avoid liability if the gist of their statement was true.
Pretty crappy. If i list something, its gonna look exactly like it looks in the picture I put up. Ebay is pretty bad about not monitoring listings like they should. I gave up reporting listings long ago. They do not care.
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A misrepresentation.
Just report it and hope for the best. Not worth confronting.
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Links - I wonder if they are using my photos since I have quite a few on coinfacts.
Well, I filed a report with eBay but only after giving them the chance to remove the photos. Their response was to ban me from their sales.
I think I'll pursue who owns the two coins and perhaps they would like to give this individual an earfull.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
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Buyer beware, aka caveat emptor.
Using a photo of another coin to sell your coin is slimy. The only time it would be ok is if the seller uses a "Stock photo" (of a run of the mill example of the coin being sold and not a photo of the Top Pop coin in the series [i.e. selling a raw, brilliant 1959 proof half dollar and using the Trueview photo of the Top Pop DCAM example of that coin]); and state in the acution listing that the photo is a "Stock photo" and is not the coin you will receive.
Terrible situation.
Don’t buy it if bad vibes…..
If you are sure, then provide a link and if enough of us complain to Ebay, they may respond.
Jim
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I see a lot of doctored pictures on EBay and now just ignore it, everything I have reported they have just let slide. There are a lot of crooked sellers there, selling cleaned coins as BU is almost a standard practice for many sellers.
I just take the high road and on ungraded coins, state that it is at least a VF (or whatever) and include numerous very high def pictures to demonstrate that is the case
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The way to force action is for our hosts to file a DMCA takedown notice. That has legal teeth. However, it becomes a more than f/t job to police fleaBay and our hosts have better things to do.
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Just another example of eBay allowing fraud on their website.
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You "might" get the coin? Then probability enters into the sale?! Jeez... I'm seeing this as a feeble attempt to perpetrate the classic "bait and switch". Total scam....
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I have a personal policy of not buying coins on eBay with stock photos or coins listed where more than one is available but only one is pictured.
Yeah, I let them know however innocent of a mistake they may have made, that eBay sales should not be misleading to gain sales. The coins they're displaying are a 1961-D PCGS MS64+FS and a 1963-D PCGS MS66+ both Jefferson nickels. They don't state the coins are in PCGS holders. They don't state they are stock photos in the photos themselves either.
I haven't outed them because, yeah, I fear lawsuits or any retaliation that could cost me. And I don't want to give them any publicity for their sales. Yes, there are folks out there who think the opposite of what's right or wrong.
I don't see how eBay will do anything without having some kind of proof this seller does not own the coins they are using in their sales. No way they're going to take my word over theirs.
The two sales have expired only to be relisted again with the same photos. Does the seller not care about ripping off his fellow man. Of course, they're charging only $10-$11 for a coin.
Maybe I'm making a molehill into a mountain, shouldn't be making a big deal out of their doings.
And they might own the coins or they did at one time.....they may have seen a few rolls with having close to 2500 feedbacks. Only the owners of these coins can make a stink about them. They can send photos of their coins.....I can't!
I say now, the he!! with it! It's not going to matter to a lot of people anyway, right?
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
Ask the seller "Will I be getting the same exact coin that you have pictured?" If he says yes and then sends you a different coin, do a return and neg him.
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When I asked if I would receive the coin he had pictured in his auction, his reply was that, "I might receive the coin pictured".
With these type of sellers, I tell them, until you can send me a photo of the coin I'm buying/receiving, we won't be doing any transaction.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
Fraud.
I think it’s fraudulent of them to do that. Photos should be of the actual coin you will receive.
You should respond "In that case, I might give you a negative review."
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire