What would you consider as average percentage premium for a Toner?

Cougar1978

What is highest premium percent you paid for a Toner? Do you think some of them priced at moon money? Have you ever been ripped on one? Did not sticker, came back AT, etc.

Bochiman

You're not "ripped on one" until you go to sell it and get substantially less.
I've been "ripped" on buying one and sold for a profit when I was (almost) ready to sell...and some may think the buyer was "ripped" but I honestly think, since he plans to own for a bit, that he will NOT be "ripped" when he goes to sell it.

Depends on the coin and the toning. Some are more common than others with toning and if the toning is NT and unique, throw the guide away.

lcoopie

1-100
How nice is the toner?

Dave99B

I’ve paid 3x price guide for a few nice ones. Fantastic coins, worth every nickel IMO.

Dave

JBN

Three and a half times guide:

david3142

I’ve paid about 120x a comparable white coin. I don’t consider that crazy. I suspect I could sell it for a profit.

I have never bought a raw one for a huge premium so no risk on having it come back QC. I have bought coins in graded holders that were previously QC though. In those cases I obviously think the graders got it wrong the first time.

messydesk

Between 0.5x and 150x is about right.

2windy2fish

Other side of the fence here but a great example of “Toner Tax”

lermish

I only have one "wild" toner and I paid about double guide (~$125 premium).

Jacques_Loungecoque

I would deduct value. I generally prefer my coins without rust.

TomB

Many (most?) folks here know I am a longtime advocate of wonderfully toned coinage, but in my experience the "average" toned coin has essentially neutral eye appeal, or perhaps slightly negative eye appeal, when compared to an untoned or "blast white" coin. Therefore, if we are writing about toned MS coinage, or unimpaired proof coins, I would suggest the "average" premium I would pay for the "average" coin is zero.

Connecticoin

Agree with TomB. And many coins with dark or fugly toning have a negative toning premium.

Copperindian

I’m biased - LOVE a nice toner! For a really really good one as much as 50%, but that’s just me, I admit!

Walkerguy21D

I neither pay for nor charge a substantial premium for attractively toned coins. And I’m not at all interested in bag toning, tape toning, wild toning, etc., but I do like concentric toning.

That said, when a dealer acquaintance at the monthly show priced this to me apologetically at full GS Ask, I didn’t haggle:

seatedlib3991

I have bid around 10 to 15 percent more than I normally would. This is not the most aggressive approach and four times out of five my bid is left in the dust. On the other hand I have won about 15 coins that I felt featured attractive toning and I never have buyer regret. james

Catbert

@Cougar1978 said:
What is highest premium percent you paid for a Toner? Do you think some of them priced at moon money? Have you ever been ripped on one? Did not sticker, came back AT, etc.

In my opinion, you do not have the marketing experience or perspective necessary to evaluate toners that are unusually eye appealing. Therefore, to answer your question would be wasting time.

RYK

@messydesk said:
Between 0.5x and 150x is about right.

I would say that it also depends on the basal value of the coin. If it is a common date Mercury dime, Franklin half or Washington quarter that is beautifully toned, 150x might be conservative. If it is rare date Seated or Barber coin, the rarity premium probably eats into the toning premium quite a bit.

gumby1234

I have paid about 10X for some really nice already slabbed. Like these.