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What grade do you guys think this is?

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,945 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A three cent silver.

    All glory is fleeting.
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    Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,676 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to say, lighting is a bit bright.

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    giantsfan20giantsfan20 Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭✭

    You claim to be an expert in your mind what do you think it is ?

    What did you buy it at, guess reading books on subject is too much effort on your part.

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,539 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Damaged. Your pics suck, nobody can grade with any accuracy with those pics.

    bob

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    lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,788 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You need a better camera.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU details. Looks like it was stripped which is why the surface looks porous.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS 64

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    ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,190 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From the pic it appears cleaned UNC details. With that pic that’s my best guess

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    @jmlanzaf said:
    AU details. Looks like it was stripped which is why the surface looks porous.

    My thoughts exactly. Looks like it sat in dip for wayyyyyy too long.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JRGeyer said:
    MS-68

    Neither funny nor helpful. > @Jacques_Loungecoque said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    AU details. Looks like it was stripped which is why the surface looks porous.

    My thoughts exactly. Looks like it sat in dip for wayyyyyy too long.

    It was probably darkly toned. In an attempt to brighten it up they either sat or in dip or straight acid. That'll remove the toning and the surface and leaves the surface porous.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lermish said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @JRGeyer said:
    MS-68

    Neither funny nor helpful.

    It's a little funny.

    Except the OP will take it as confirmation. He's a kid. He's salvageable.

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    yspsalesyspsales Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Finn

    That is why I offered to send you to an ANA seminar.

    But you are the expert.

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    lermishlermish Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @lermish said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @JRGeyer said:
    MS-68

    Neither funny nor helpful.

    It's a little funny.

    Except the OP will take it as confirmation. He's a kid. He's salvageable.

    You're a good educator. I'm way too sarcastic and unforgiving to do that.

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    @yspsales said:
    Finn

    That is why I offered to send you to an ANA seminar.

    But you are the expert.

    I do want an ANA seminar but I don't know how to join a coin club/ work for a coin dealer.

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    @yspsales said:
    Finn

    That is why I offered to send you to an ANA seminar.

    But you are the expert.

    I will try to do as you said though

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    Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lermish said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @lermish said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @JRGeyer said:
    MS-68

    Neither funny nor helpful.

    It's a little funny.

    Except the OP will take it as confirmation. He's a kid. He's salvageable.

    You're a good educator. I'm way too sarcastic and unforgiving to do that.

    And I'm too cynical. :p

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,443 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As a long time ANA member, I took the counterfeit detection course as a correspondence course about 20 years ago. It came with a soft cover book full of pictures and text and was well worth the effort. I'm not sure if the ANA grading course is also available as a correspondence course but if it is, it's well worth the effort.

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    FrazFraz Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf

    He's a kid. He's salvageable.

    Agreed.
    First lesson: guises are bad.
    Second lesson: there are smarter people who can sniff out a scheme.
    Third lesson: coins.

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,640 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 30, 2024 6:31AM

    AU cleaned at best. Probably a circ that was dipped.

    So Cali Area - Coins & Currency
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    yspsalesyspsales Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 30, 2024 7:34AM

    Like the girlfriend's dad sizing him up for the prom date.

    People observe, judge, and form a lasting opinion.

    The opinion follows you.

    There are no short cuts yet he's just keeps digging that hole to nowhere.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,318 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 30, 2024 8:58AM

    @BillJones
    I know that many 1852 3¢ Silver pieces had the upper portion of the shield adornment fairly weak, but yours shows no adornment at all. Not familar with 3¢ Silver, is that an attribution type or error? Just curious.
    Jim


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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:
    @BillJones
    I know that many 1852 3¢ Silver pieces had the upper portion of the shield adornment fairly weak, but yours shows no adornment at all. Not familar with 3¢ Silver, is that an attribution type or error? Just curious.
    Jim

    It’s just weak striking. If you have ever handled one of these coins outside a slab, you would see that these coins are about as thick as a thick piece of paper. To strike these coins perfectly, the calibration of the coin press has to be perfect.

    I bought this piece based upon originally and eye appeal.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,219 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i reserve judgment pending better pics. needs better lighting. also, go all the way out to include the rim

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,521 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it could may be slightly silver, fwiw, cleaned as well buts only 3 cents
    You cab figure it out

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    yspsalesyspsales Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IkesT said:

    @USA_Bullion_and_Coin said:
    What grade do you guys think this is?

    To be fair, you paid yourself $10 to grade this coin, so you owe it to yourself to tell yourself what the grade is. :D

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    BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Second the UNC Details grade above. If you look at the big C on the reverse, you still have the tiny detail outlines on the edge. Those are almost fin thickness and are the first bit of detail to be lost to wear.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,859 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU58 - the peaks of the star arms on the left above the date show a darker color indicative of rub

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    calgolddivercalgolddiver Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    a toned example ... PCGS62


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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @calgolddiver said:
    a toned example ... PCGS62


    Sorry, but an attractive mint state example of a Type 3 date has virtually nothing to do with the coin in the first post.😉

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @calgolddiver said:
    a toned example ... PCGS62


    Sorry, but an attractive mint state example of a Type 3 date has virtually nothing to do with the coin in the first post.😉

    It's aspirational.

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    MWallaceMWallace Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Referencing the thread title: "i" before "e" except after "c". :D

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,219 ✭✭✭✭✭

    can vouchers even be used for crossovers, ignoring the crossover vs raw statements?

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    @MsMorrisine said:
    can vouchers even be used for crossovers, ignoring the crossover vs raw statements?

    It would appear so.
    The Collectors Club voucher may be applied to either the Regular Standard or Gold Shield service. You may submit your coins for either Raw, Crossover, Regrade or Reconsideration service.”

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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,542 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @USA_Bullion_and_Coin said:

    @yspsales said:
    Finn

    That is why I offered to send you to an ANA seminar.

    But you are the expert.

    I will try to do as you said though

    A really good start would be to view all the PCGS grading videos on Youtube.

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    spyglassdesignspyglassdesign Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Connecticoin said:

    @USA_Bullion_and_Coin said:

    @yspsales said:
    Finn

    That is why I offered to send you to an ANA seminar.

    But you are the expert.

    I will try to do as you said though

    A really good start would be to view all the PCGS grading videos on Youtube.

    The easiest and free place to start for sure!

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    yspsalesyspsales Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have also come across grading challenges.

    THOSE... are some humbling videos.

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