Thoughts on this 3 cent peice

USA_Bullion_and_Coin

What grade do you guys think this is?

291fifth

A three cent silver.

Namvet69

Hard to say, lighting is a bit bright.

giantsfan20

You claim to be an expert in your mind what do you think it is ?

What did you buy it at, guess reading books on subject is too much effort on your part.

AUandAG

Damaged. Your pics suck, nobody can grade with any accuracy with those pics.

bob

lcoopie

You need a better camera.

jmlanzaf

AU details. Looks like it was stripped which is why the surface looks porous.

jmlanzaf

PCGS 64

JRGeyer

MS-68

jmlanzaf

@JRGeyer said:
MS-68

Neither funny nor helpful.

ScarsdaleCoin

From the pic it appears cleaned UNC details. With that pic that’s my best guess

lermish

@jmlanzaf said:

@JRGeyer said:
MS-68

Neither funny nor helpful.

It's a little funny.

Jacques_Loungecoque

@jmlanzaf said:
AU details. Looks like it was stripped which is why the surface looks porous.

My thoughts exactly. Looks like it sat in dip for wayyyyyy too long.

jmlanzaf

@JRGeyer said:
MS-68

Neither funny nor helpful. > @Jacques_Loungecoque said:

@jmlanzaf said:
AU details. Looks like it was stripped which is why the surface looks porous.

My thoughts exactly. Looks like it sat in dip for wayyyyyy too long.

It was probably darkly toned. In an attempt to brighten it up they either sat or in dip or straight acid. That'll remove the toning and the surface and leaves the surface porous.

jmlanzaf

@lermish said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@JRGeyer said:
MS-68

Neither funny nor helpful.

It's a little funny.

Except the OP will take it as confirmation. He's a kid. He's salvageable.

yspsales

Finn

That is why I offered to send you to an ANA seminar.

But you are the expert.

lermish

@jmlanzaf said:

@lermish said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@JRGeyer said:
MS-68

Neither funny nor helpful.

It's a little funny.

Except the OP will take it as confirmation. He's a kid. He's salvageable.

You're a good educator. I'm way too sarcastic and unforgiving to do that.

USA_Bullion_and_Coin

@yspsales said:
Finn

That is why I offered to send you to an ANA seminar.

But you are the expert.

I do want an ANA seminar but I don't know how to join a coin club/ work for a coin dealer.

USA_Bullion_and_Coin

@yspsales said:
Finn

That is why I offered to send you to an ANA seminar.

But you are the expert.

I will try to do as you said though

World67

@lermish said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@lermish said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@JRGeyer said:
MS-68

Neither funny nor helpful.

It's a little funny.

Except the OP will take it as confirmation. He's a kid. He's salvageable.

You're a good educator. I'm way too sarcastic and unforgiving to do that.

And I'm too cynical.

PerryHall

As a long time ANA member, I took the counterfeit detection course as a correspondence course about 20 years ago. It came with a soft cover book full of pictures and text and was well worth the effort. I'm not sure if the ANA grading course is also available as a correspondence course but if it is, it's well worth the effort.

Fraz

@jmlanzaf

He's a kid. He's salvageable.

Agreed.
First lesson: guises are bad.
Second lesson: there are smarter people who can sniff out a scheme.
Third lesson: coins.

Cougar1978

AU cleaned at best. Probably a circ that was dipped.

yspsales

Like the girlfriend's dad sizing him up for the prom date.

People observe, judge, and form a lasting opinion.

The opinion follows you.

There are no short cuts yet he's just keeps digging that hole to nowhere.

BillJones

The Type I Silver Three Cent piece was 75% silver and 25% copper. The coin often does not tone well, and it is prone to spots. I have seen Mint State graded pieces that had ugly black toning spots. They were of little interest to me.

The OP coin appears to have been over dipped or "fried." It looks like the surfaces are granular. As such, I don't think that it would get a straight grade from a legitimate grading service.

Another possibility is that the photos have had the "sharpen" button hit too many times when the pictures were processed. This causes the digital photos to look grainy.

Here is an MS-66 I have in my collection.

Here is another one that NGC graded MS-64.

jesbroken

@BillJones
I know that many 1852 3¢ Silver pieces had the upper portion of the shield adornment fairly weak, but yours shows no adornment at all. Not familar with 3¢ Silver, is that an attribution type or error? Just curious.
Jim

BillJones

@jesbroken said:
@BillJones
I know that many 1852 3¢ Silver pieces had the upper portion of the shield adornment fairly weak, but yours shows no adornment at all. Not familar with 3¢ Silver, is that an attribution type or error? Just curious.
Jim

It’s just weak striking. If you have ever handled one of these coins outside a slab, you would see that these coins are about as thick as a thick piece of paper. To strike these coins perfectly, the calibration of the coin press has to be perfect.

I bought this piece based upon originally and eye appeal.

MsMorrisine

i reserve judgment pending better pics. needs better lighting. also, go all the way out to include the rim

IkesT

@USA_Bullion_and_Coin said:
What grade do you guys think this is?

To be fair, you paid yourself $10 to grade this coin, so you owe it to yourself to tell yourself what the grade is.

johnny9434

I think it could may be slightly silver, fwiw, cleaned as well buts only 3 cents
You cab figure it out

yspsales

@IkesT said:

@USA_Bullion_and_Coin said:
What grade do you guys think this is?

To be fair, you paid yourself $10 to grade this coin, so you owe it to yourself to tell yourself what the grade is.

Cold blooded.... but true

BStrauss3

Second the UNC Details grade above. If you look at the big C on the reverse, you still have the tiny detail outlines on the edge. Those are almost fin thickness and are the first bit of detail to be lost to wear.

davewesen

AU58 - the peaks of the star arms on the left above the date show a darker color indicative of rub

calgolddiver

a toned example ... PCGS62

MFeld

@calgolddiver said:
a toned example ... PCGS62

Sorry, but an attractive mint state example of a Type 3 date has virtually nothing to do with the coin in the first post.😉

jmlanzaf

@MFeld said:

@calgolddiver said:
a toned example ... PCGS62

Sorry, but an attractive mint state example of a Type 3 date has virtually nothing to do with the coin in the first post.😉

It's aspirational.

MWallace

Referencing the thread title: "i" before "e" except after "c".

MsMorrisine

can vouchers even be used for crossovers, ignoring the crossover vs raw statements?

johnhenry9009

@MsMorrisine said:
can vouchers even be used for crossovers, ignoring the crossover vs raw statements?

It would appear so.
“The Collectors Club voucher may be applied to either the Regular Standard or Gold Shield service. You may submit your coins for either Raw, Crossover, Regrade or Reconsideration service.”

Connecticoin

@USA_Bullion_and_Coin said:

@yspsales said:
Finn

That is why I offered to send you to an ANA seminar.

But you are the expert.

I will try to do as you said though

A really good start would be to view all the PCGS grading videos on Youtube.

spyglassdesign

@Connecticoin said:

@USA_Bullion_and_Coin said:

@yspsales said:
Finn

That is why I offered to send you to an ANA seminar.

But you are the expert.

I will try to do as you said though

A really good start would be to view all the PCGS grading videos on Youtube.

The easiest and free place to start for sure!

yspsales

I have also come across grading challenges.

THOSE... are some humbling videos.