Morgan vam 3 spitting eagle misattributed
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Hey guys, I'm new to the forum and was needing some insight on this vam 3 I just purchased, upon further inspection I think think this is a vam 7 far date, I plan to send it to vss for verification as I heard great things about them and then back to ngc for correction, I'm totally new to all of this and decided to collect top 100 vams, I bought my first one last month and haven't been able to stop since 
, I plan to send it to vss for verification as I heard great things about them and then back to ngc for correction, I'm totally new to all of this and decided to collect top 100 vams, I bought my first one last month and haven't been able to stop since
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Please show a photo of the eagles head.
Thank you, I literally just purchased it about a hour ago and don't have it in hand, if you're looking for the raised metal aka spitting it's already been attributed by ngc
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If it has the raised spit it's a Vam 3 not a Vam 7
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It's already been attributed by ngc being a 1891 cc vam 3 spitting eagle, I posted pictures above, but I think it's a 1891 cc vam 7 spitting eagle (far date) if you look at the date it is set almost 1 full dentil to the right, compare your date picture with mine and you will see
I see what you are saying now.
Yes it looks like the far date Vam 7
I'm not sure it would be worth the trouble to have NGC correct it.
I do as I can't find one for sale and I need it for a registry slot, the VAM 3 can be had anytime
Same for the 1878 8 tf vam 5 double rib, I can't find one for sale
Looks like you found a winner for your open slot.
This is awesome guys, like I said I've only been at it about a month and I have 15 and a long way to go, my best so far is the 1921 vam 1A2 TRU T, pop 3 with one higher, almost 5k points for that one alone, I truly feel this vam 3 needs to be corrected as this is one of the slots allot of collector's are missing along with the VAM 5 double rib, btw if anyone has a lead on a 1878 vam 5 double rib I'm looking to buy asap
You should join Vamworld if you are not already a member.
You can post a "Want to Buy" on the BST forum there.
I've thought about it, I will go ahead and give it a go, thank you
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It is a far date but I don't see the spitting eagle part. Looks like a normal eagle. Pics can be deceiving as it has to be a spitting eagle per Vamworld. Unless of course, it's a new Vam.
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VAM 7 is the only 91-CC far date. There should also be a lump on the E in LIBERTY. The "spit" was polished down a bit for this die pair and is fairly weak.
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On a positive note at least ngc recognizes it as a spitting eagle, once in hand I need to send it in for attribution correction,
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Here are a couple of crop enlargements of the LIBERTY and the UNUM and star for die crack.
I don't know but looks like the E might have it. Also appears to have die crack in UM and maybe at first star but not that clear.
Oh well, gave it a try.
EDIT - changed sharpness (a little improvement)
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Truth be told, VAM collectors would rather see my (VSS) attribution than NGC.
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As soon as I get it in hand I need to get it to you for confirmation, if you would send me a pm I would like to discuss it as I've never done this, tia
@lilolme I'm also looking for a 1895s vam 4 (s horizontal s) for a empty slot, could you do your magic and tell me if you think this is one, the s on this is a little weird, I can verify faintly see the spike coming out of the top left of the s but I don't know what that is at the bottom left end of the s
Sorry, but I think that is damage, the S for a VAM-4 should look like this.
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Ok guys I received the coin today and was able to stick it under my digital microscope and here's the results after comparing pictures from vam world, I'm pretty positive it's a vam 7 and not a vam 3, opinions are needed once again for confirmation pictures are of the actual vam 3 I purchased
Yes, VAM 7. Far date, lump in the E in LIBERTY, and polished eagle spit.
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@MESSYDESK just the person I needed to hear this from, after receiving it yesterday I was ecstatic to get it under my scope and it all lined up from the spike in the 2nd star, the die crack in u-m, the spike in E in liberty and of course the far date and polished spit, anyhow I will get this out to you whenever you like, being so new to this morgan variety stuff would you happen to know if ngc will fix this for free or will I have to pay for it, or is that something I need to call and ask them about
I don't send varieties to NGC, so you'll have to call them to see what they'll do.
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@messydesk I don't know why I was thinking you did, my apologies. give me a date at your convenience and I will get it out to you. thank you