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Guess the Grade 1878 Morgan (revealed in comments)

U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,018 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 27, 2024 5:52PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Please guess the grade of this 1878 Morgan.

(photo courtesy of PCGS)

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  • Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tough to say with all that toning. Can't move the coin around to look for hits.
    It sure is a pretty coin. From what I can tell it's a 65 mabe 66.

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  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,535 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,861 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,308 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think 64 also

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  • maymay Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. Too many hits on the reverse.

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  • jp84jp84 Posts: 201 ✭✭✭

    64

  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62, I’m going on the low side.

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  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 6,112 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say exactly what MFeld says: I’ll guess MS63, bumped up a point for color, resulting in a 64.

  • RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Whats going on below the word "dollar" on the reverse? I'm in the 64 camp.

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  • mattnissmattniss Posts: 698 ✭✭✭✭

    I think this one could be a 65. That hit on the chin gives me a little concern though.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ownerofawheatiehorde said:
    63. Too many hits on the reverse.

    To me, the reverse looks cleaner than the obverse.

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  • maymay Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Ownerofawheatiehorde said:
    63. Too many hits on the reverse.

    To me, the reverse looks cleaner than the obverse.

    Maybe, I can't tell much through that toning.

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  • GaCoinGuyGaCoinGuy Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭✭

    @Rollerman said:
    Whats going on below the word "dollar" on the reverse? I'm in the 64 camp.

    Not sure what the chatter is, but there are several places on the reverse that looks like something going on before the strike (the bottom of dollar, starting over near the E in ONE. The top of AMERICA, and again over on the left side running vertically underneath the wing). Could just be discoloration?

    Pretty coin, regardless of the grade. I'll venture it graded at 63.

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  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GaCoinGuy said:

    @Rollerman said:
    Whats going on below the word "dollar" on the reverse? I'm in the 64 camp.

    Not sure what the chatter is, but there are several places on the reverse that looks like something going on before the strike (the bottom of dollar, starting over near the E in ONE. The top of AMERICA, and again over on the left side running vertically underneath the wing). Could just be discoloration?

    Pretty coin, regardless of the grade. I'll venture it graded at 63.

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    I think you are referring to some of the die cracks on the reverse die (there are a few other lighter ones).
    Agree it has some nice color to it.

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  • GaCoinGuyGaCoinGuy Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭✭

    I was leaning towards them being die cracks, but couldn't see them on the actual devices.

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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the reverse is solid actually, I will guess 64+

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS65. NGC would give it a star probably.

  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    MS65. NGC would give it a star probably.

    Not these days.

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  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,018 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a 62+
    .....I could see it as a 63 but 62 is more technically accurate; you can argue the plus is there for the color or for it being close to a 63.

  • Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Im always fooled by toners.
    Beautiful color.

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭✭✭

    True view glamor shot made it look better than in person.

  • Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm selling a reverse toner with similar toning pattern.

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  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 28, 2024 11:31AM

    Yay, I'm the only one who guessed 62. I didn't have the "+" though.

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