Unfortunately no pics and it’s in a OGH.
A 1877 DE in MS60cac. Spectacular luster, no wear…………but 3 major contact marks in the obverse fields. I really think it’s a 61-61+ today regardless. It was definitely ‘net graded’ back in the day. I got a good deal and am not going to crack it, but it’s a great looking coin minus the marks!👍
@FlyingAl said:
A coin that is better than AU58 but not as good as an MS61.
I disagree, there are some gorgeous 58s, but 60s always look like crap. I'd go further and say 60 is the worst grade of all, none of the 'story/history/charm' of a circulated coin, and none of the eye appeal of an UNC coin. If I had one of these I'd carry it around til it was a 58.
I'm virtually certain that by "better", @FlyingAl meant in terms of a higher numerical grade, even if less desirable than many AU58's.
This is correct. My comment was mostly made in jest, as there is really no “fits all” definition.
I didn't see that before I replied. Either way, no real arguing here. I agree with whatever else has been written that lines up with what I said, and I'm happy with the zero MS60 and MS61 coins I own. (And yes, I knew that @FlyingAl was making a comment about numbers--it was refreshing to see some simple math today).
Not a touch of wear, but the amount of hits, hairlines and noticeable rim dings are more distracting than the ugly toning and spotting that resides over the impaired luster.
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Oops! You are correct, We cannot define MS-60 because no one agrees on Mint State. I'm reading the can of worms in your thread. I've been reluctant to post much anymore because I ran off a professional grader from a discussion because I disagreed with him.
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Unfortunately no pics and it’s in a OGH.
A 1877 DE in MS60cac. Spectacular luster, no wear…………but 3 major contact marks in the obverse fields. I really think it’s a 61-61+ today regardless. It was definitely ‘net graded’ back in the day. I got a good deal and am not going to crack it, but it’s a great looking coin minus the marks!👍
I didn't see that before I replied. Either way, no real arguing here. I agree with whatever else has been written that lines up with what I said, and I'm happy with the zero MS60 and MS61 coins I own. (And yes, I knew that @FlyingAl was making a comment about numbers--it was refreshing to see some simple math today).
Describe a MS-60
Not a touch of wear, but the amount of hits, hairlines and noticeable rim dings are more distracting than the ugly toning and spotting that resides over the impaired luster.
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
Oops! You are correct, We cannot define MS-60 because no one agrees on Mint State. I'm reading the can of worms in your thread. I've been reluctant to post much anymore because I ran off a professional grader from a discussion because I disagreed with him.
An MS details coin with a pardon.