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GTG -1883 IHC PCGS****Answered****

rnkmyer1rnkmyer1 Posts: 316 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 10, 2024 7:44PM in U.S. Coin Forum

As this is a IHC, there are two sticker possibilities. If you think there’s none, one or two, please include with your grade assessment. The big reveal is tonight. Top two pics are True Views, 3&4 are mine. Before @winesteven asks, the True Views more accurately depict the coin this time around. Gotcha Steve!




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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,140 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll go first.............65RB

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,033 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with 65RB. Love the longacre effect.
    Jim


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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS64 brown. Just a few too many small marks in the obverse field to go 65. 30 or so years ago it would have been called RB but today I think it will be called brown.

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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 6,505 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm with @291fifth

    64BN


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  • DeplorableDanDeplorableDan Posts: 2,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My initial thought was ms64 because of the obv chatter, and Im not well versed with color designations but i'd rather buy that as a BN than a RB.

  • maddoemaddoe Posts: 31 ✭✭✭

    64BN

  • rnkmyer1rnkmyer1 Posts: 316 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Reminder to all those who submitted their grades + those who haven’t: also looking for sticker assessment. Thanks!

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    Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
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  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,140 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65+ bn cac

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 10, 2024 9:57AM

    64 (edited to BN), but I don’t believe in guessing on stickers when there’s no assigned grade involved.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • bagofnickelsbagofnickels Posts: 345 ✭✭✭✭

    65BN photoseal

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65BN, no idea on the stickers

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 10, 2024 9:55AM

    @Walkerguy21D said:
    65BN, no idea on the stickers

    No one does, since we don’t know the grade upon which a sticker decision would be rendered. For that matter, no one even knows if or where the coin was even tried for a sticker. Anyone who guesses correctly is the beneficiary of good luck.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm a Morgan collector so what do I know.
    My guess is 64 Brown CAC
    If it's a 65 no sticker.
    Very nice coin though. I do like the color.

    Student of numismatics and collector of Morgan dollars

  • PizzamanPizzaman Posts: 212 ✭✭✭

    Easy gem. I'm at 65, as well.

  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 3,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First and most importantly @rnkmyer1 , yes, you got me, lol, as indeed I would have asked you which sets color was closer to the coin in hand.

    I’ll go with the minority color choice, RB, since even though the closer color of the TV’s are “dark”, my guess is there’s enough red on the coin in hand to exceed the 5% required minimum to be categorized as RB.

    I’ll go with 64 on the numerical grade. I’ll guess that it double stickered, getting Rick’s Photo Seal mainly due to the strong strike.

    But here’s the more important question: knowing your old Small Cent sets are “high end”, why would YOU own a 64 or 65 BN or RB coin?

    Steve

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  • rnkmyer1rnkmyer1 Posts: 316 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hi Steve -
    Good question, as usual. I only started Registry IHC’s when I realized I had a lot of RD’s among the BN & RB toners. As you know, RD’s score the highest & to many, are “purist” copper as far as color. So, I kept going until I eventually had high RD % sets & retired them. But, I always liked toners & just continued with nice ones of those after I retired the RD dominated sets.
    Ken

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63 RB, the field in front of the face, probably graded a point or two over that.

  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64RB

    Mr_Spud

  • RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 515 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 10, 2024 11:36AM

    64 BN and a nice one imo

  • KAJ1KAJ1 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭

    64+ BN

  • EastonCollectionEastonCollection Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ms-64, CAC BRN - I am being tough on this one.

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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,156 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65 RB

    no bean

  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,665 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64 rb

    LCoopie = Les
  • JerseyBJerseyB Posts: 68 ✭✭✭

    65 Brown

  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could be 66BN. CAC is warranted, so is PS

  • rnkmyer1rnkmyer1 Posts: 316 ✭✭✭✭✭


    No one nailed it today but a lot of good comments + justification of grades given.

    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

    PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
    Copperindian

    Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 22,564 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was at 65 bn. Nice one! 👍

  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 10, 2024 8:09PM

    The Morgan Dollar collector Nailed the Grade and the Sticker 😎👍

    We Dollar collectors must stick together!! 😉

    @Morgan13 said:
    I'm a Morgan collector so what do I know.
    My guess is 64 Brown CAC
    If it's a 65 no sticker.
    Very nice coin though. I do like the color.

    PS: Looks like a very attractive R&B to me…


    Stuart

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  • rnkmyer1rnkmyer1 Posts: 316 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Stuart: he did, but it also has the EEPS. Not mentioned in his post.

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    Copperindian

    Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
    Copperindian

  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,140 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It would be great to have a set of all the affordable Indians in ms64 Brown, if they were as nice as yours.

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  • rnkmyer1rnkmyer1 Posts: 316 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DoubleEagle59: absolutely agree! Many of the BN’s have nice toning, so that would make such a set extra special.

    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

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    Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
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  • Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 11, 2024 6:10AM

    That's right us Morgan guys do have to stick together.
    Very nice coin.
    What does EEPS mean?
    I want to buy one of these someday. Something with this kind of eye appeal would suit me just fine.

    Student of numismatics and collector of Morgan dollars

  • LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    EEPS = Eagle Eye Photo Seal (Rick Snow)

    I did not get a guess in but I would have said 65/66
    That is a really nice 64

  • rnkmyer1rnkmyer1 Posts: 316 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Morgan13: EEPS is abbreviated Eagle Eye Photo Seal. The acknowledged foremost expert in the Indian Head & Flying Eagle cent series is Rick Snow. He uses that sticker designation for those coins in those two series he considers outstanding for the assigned TPG grade. For many specialists in those series, the EEPS has greater or at least equal weight to CAC. In the slab pic above you will see it over the gold shield.
    Btw, I should acknowledge your participation & input in a coin you’re not exactly comfortable with. Much appreciated!

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