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Your opinions on the demand of pre-1985 PSA autographed cards please.

HidhoeHidhoe Posts: 263 ✭✭✭

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I could be wrong, but this market looks like it has been having great demand over the past few years based on my limited research.

Anyone else follow it ? Thanks

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  • DBesse27DBesse27 Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love autographed vintage, especially slabbed!

    Yaz Master Set
    #1 Gino Cappelletti master set
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    Also collecting Andre Tippett, Patriots Greats' RCs, 1964 Venezuelan Topps, 1974 Topps Red Sox, 1968 Venz Sox

  • DM23HOFDM23HOF Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 8, 2024 9:18PM

    Love signed vintage! My favorite thing to collect! The challenge of finding old cards signed with some eye appeal, the interplay of card and auto quality, placement, period of signature (ideally playing days), etc., it is so hard and so rewarding.

    Instagram: mattyc_collection

  • HidhoeHidhoe Posts: 263 ✭✭✭
    edited February 9, 2024 1:45AM

    4 Sharp corners sold 3 different PSA 10/10 Auto of this card recently.

    Just getting three 10/10s in a submission ( consecutive serial numbers) is mind blowing being that the card had to be signed.
    That card would look nice signed in green.



  • HidhoeHidhoe Posts: 263 ✭✭✭

    A non centered Ozzie

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    A centered Ozzie

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    A signed Ozzie

  • countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hidhoe said:
    That card would look nice signed in green.



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    I have indeed seen this card signed in green for sale on ebay previously. You are correct. It does look sharp.

  • HidhoeHidhoe Posts: 263 ✭✭✭
    edited February 9, 2024 3:21AM

    @countdouglas said:

    @Hidhoe said:
    That card would look nice signed in green.



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    I have indeed seen this card signed in green for sale on ebay previously. You are correct. It does look sharp.

    I’m guessing 4SC was involved with a private signing with Rickey but their choice of all blue and no green missed the boat imo.


    This one is still live and I’m sure if it does well 4SC will follow the money and do more.

    Probably best to collect either your favorite living players but better to collect your favorite deceased players as POPs can’t escalate.

  • FirstBeardFirstBeard Posts: 453 ✭✭✭

    Vintage signed cards look incredible. Those prices are really strong!

  • pab1969pab1969 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Vintage signed cards will always sell very well. I love the cursive handwriting and legible signatures.

  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 9, 2024 7:53AM

    I dislike autographed cards and consider the cards as marked! I have no such cards in my PC….

    mint_only_pls
  • HidhoeHidhoe Posts: 263 ✭✭✭

    @mintonlypls said:
    I dislike autographed cards and consider the cards as marked! I have no such cards in my PC….

    Dissenting voices are always welcome 🤗

  • HidhoeHidhoe Posts: 263 ✭✭✭

    @pab1969 said:
    Vintage signed cards will always sell very well. I love the cursive handwriting and legible signatures.

    They are beautiful with great eye appeal on many, but a poor auto/ rush job can ruin a card.

  • HidhoeHidhoe Posts: 263 ✭✭✭

    @FirstBeard said:
    Vintage signed cards look incredible. Those prices are really strong!

    That’s what amazes me is the demand.
    With 4SC heavily involved in this they must know something I don’t.

  • DM23HOFDM23HOF Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 11, 2024 6:17AM

    @Hidhoe said:

    @FirstBeard said:
    Vintage signed cards look incredible. Those prices are really strong!

    That’s what amazes me is the demand.
    With 4SC heavily involved in this they must know something I don’t.

    If you think the 80s stuff is amazing here are some notable older vintage signed pieces:











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  • HidhoeHidhoe Posts: 263 ✭✭✭
    edited February 11, 2024 7:55AM

    The 53 and 61 Mantle are superb.
    Fantastic centering and sweet graphs.

  • DM23HOFDM23HOF Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 11, 2024 8:41AM

    Ah thanks, man, those were actually both my cards that I sold to help offset the cost of the 51B and 52T!

    Instagram: mattyc_collection

  • HidhoeHidhoe Posts: 263 ✭✭✭

    @DM23HOF said:
    Ah thanks, man, those were actually both my cards that I sold to help offset the cost of the 51B and 52T!

    This is none of my business but do you still have the majority of your instagram cards or are you trading a lot. Superb collection and didn’t realize there’s so many Mantle signed cards, but he did sign a lot and it’s not like they’ll ever reach real high populations anyway.

  • HidhoeHidhoe Posts: 263 ✭✭✭
    edited February 11, 2024 8:51AM

    There’s a card up for auction now from 1970 that I know for a fact that this HOFamer signed in 1971. It’s his rookie card too. No one else knows and I’m not saying a word. Lol
    The reason I know is because there are 50 other cards with signatures that match their 1971 signing style in this lot.
    I hope to win it and send him a copy of the card to him in March for him to sign the copy “my early auto”.

  • DM23HOFDM23HOF Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 11, 2024 2:05PM

    @Hidhoe said:

    @DM23HOF said:
    Ah thanks, man, those were actually both my cards that I sold to help offset the cost of the 51B and 52T!

    This is none of my business but do you still have the majority of your instagram cards or are you trading a lot. Superb collection and didn’t realize there’s so many Mantle signed cards, but he did sign a lot and it’s not like they’ll ever reach real high populations anyway.

    In terms of Mantle, in order to create my collecting grail pairing of the centered unsigned 51/52T with the signed pair, I moved the later years, though retained the 53T (which I may turn into one great Ruth card, or may keep, not sure yet on that). All the other stuff pictured is from my 60s-80s stuff that I'll always have for nostalgia.

    In terms of population data for Mantle in particular, it's quite interesting and a big part of why I started collecting signed vintage. From his 1951-69 basic issues there are just 417 signed examples versus 61.976 unsigned in all grades (just PSA slabs, SGC examples would increase that number). Of the 417, I'd say at most 10-15% have elite aesthetics/eye appeal. Whereas there are 214 unsigned PSA 9-10s. The same type of ratios/dynamics are in play for the other long-deceased greats.

    Instagram: mattyc_collection

  • HidhoeHidhoe Posts: 263 ✭✭✭

    @DM23HOF said:

    @Hidhoe said:

    @DM23HOF said:
    Ah thanks, man, those were actually both my cards that I sold to help offset the cost of the 51B and 52T!

    This is none of my business but do you still have the majority of your instagram cards or are you trading a lot. Superb collection and didn’t realize there’s so many Mantle signed cards, but he did sign a lot and it’s not like they’ll ever reach real high populations anyway.

    In terms of Mantle, in order to create the pairing of centering unsigned 51/52T with the signed pair I moved the later years, though retained the 53T, which I may turn into one great Ruth card, or may keep, not sure yet on that. All the other stuff pictured is from my 60s-80s stuff that I'll always have for nostalgia.

    In terms of population data for Mantle in particular, it's quite interesting and a big part of why I started collecting signed vintage. From his 1951-69 basic issues there are just 417 signed examples versus 61.976 unsigned in all grades (just PSA slabs, SGC examples would increase that number). Of the 417, I'd say at most 10-15% have elite aesthetics/eye appeal. Whereas there are 214 unsigned PSA 9-10s. The same type of ratios/dynamics are in play for the other long-deceased greats.

    Signed, centered vintage from elite players who have Super signatures and know how to effectively place them on a card, like Mickey could, is an awesome aspect of our hobby.
    Throw in the low population plus the elite factor within that population makes the chase that much more exciting.

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  • DM23HOFDM23HOF Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great pair of signed cards right there. I don't track the Hank yet there are currently only 19 signed '52T Micks, and only two that he signed in that particular space, which I personally love— as it lets the auto pop and does not touch the central image. Like the stone background of that photo, too.

    Instagram: mattyc_collection

  • HidhoeHidhoe Posts: 263 ✭✭✭
    edited February 12, 2024 1:55AM

    It’s clearly evident that demand is greater then supply for signed cards. How long this will last is anyones call.


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    Pop reports show for now a tremendous advantage for autograph collectors.


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