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New 1793 coin for my US Complete Type Circulation Set

willywilly Posts: 273 ✭✭✭✭✭

Picked this one for my PCGS Set. Down to 8 very tough coins at this point. Will probably come up 3- 4 coins short on this set unless I win the lottery.

Island City Circulation Type Set. Ranked # 5 and going no higher unless D.L Hansen crosses all his coins to CACG or others retire their sets.

Willy

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Love your new addition, congrats! Adding a 17XX coin to my collection is still an unmet goal of mine.

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  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great addition! I love the split obverse die.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2024 8:24AM

    Nothing like picking one of the tough 1793 Cap cents (They all are.). I am satisfied with a 1794 or 1795. The 1793 Cap Cents have never been on my want list as a type coin. They are just too expensive. The last one I saw that I really liked was priced at $150,000 after a significant price drop about 8 years ago.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,072 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2024 8:53AM

    Wow, that’s a big large cent!
    S14, R5, and almost certainly in the condition census.
    I briefly owned a 93 liberty cap in Fair, but sold it to a forum member for his want list. On the bright side, the profit on it paid for my 1839 N1 in VF, with change leftover.

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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hopefully, your SLQ collection auction will help you fund another of your remaining!

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  • willywilly Posts: 273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones I agree that nice coins can be tough to find. The last couple of coins in my Type set are tough the 1792 Half Disme is hardly ever found with nice appeal and when I do the price is crazy.

    1795 $10 Small Eagle I will find one
    1829-34 Capped Bust $5 will also find I like eventually and can afford

    1796 $2-1/2 Gold No Stars
    1808 $2-1/2 Gold
    1796-97 Half Dollar
    1907 $10 Gold Wire Edge and Rolled Edge probably skipping these 2.

  • calgolddivercalgolddiver Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭✭✭

    patience ! nice addition to your set !

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  • willywilly Posts: 273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Large Cent came from the Golbrecht's Raisinet Collection that was auctioned off. The auction had a nice 1792 Half Disme and a nice 1796 Half dollar the problem is I can only afford one coin at a time. I was the under bidder on the Half Dollar.

    The coins in this Type set were really nice ones for the middle end Type collector.

  • willywilly Posts: 273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Catbert I hope so but I need a bidding war on every coin.

  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,957 ✭✭✭

    Absolutely love the look. Congratulations

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @willy said:
    The Large Cent came from the Golbrecht's Raisinet Collection that was auctioned off. The auction had a nice 1792 Half Disme and a nice 1796 Half dollar the problem is I can only afford one coin at a time. I was the under bidder on the Half Dollar.

    The coins in this Type set were really nice ones for the middle end Type collector.

    Yes, agree! I won one lot and am anxiously awaiting Heritage shipping.

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  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great looking coin!

  • RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 518 ✭✭✭✭

    I can easily appreciate that one

  • TomBTomB Posts: 20,614 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow! That looks fabulous!

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  • TimNHTimNH Posts: 108 ✭✭✭

    For 'type' purposes, do you consider the 1793 a distinct type from the 1794+ coins, or just prefer the rare date/split die?

    I too am working through a type set and it is far from clear what is a 'type' vs variation within a type .. like, do I really need those small eagles, or will the large eagle do?

  • goldengolden Posts: 8,965 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I looked at that coin at the FUN show. I was interested in it, but it went a little strong for me. It is a very nice coin.

  • willywilly Posts: 273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For the complete type set you need the 1793 Chain Cent, 1793 Wreath Cent and this one the 1793 Liberty Cap Beaded Border cent, plus you need the 1794-96 Liberty Cap Dent Border.

    Some of the other Type sets just need one or two of the Types.

  • willywilly Posts: 273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @golden I paid up for the coin but was told that it looked good for the grade and the surfaces were nice. Also it was CAC which is a plus for me on the early copper. I have been told I am stupid for paying up for CAC coins but I am okay with people thinking that. I will probably die with these coins in my possession so the family will take any losses or profits from buying the CAC coins.

  • goldengolden Posts: 8,965 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Golbrecht Raisinet Collection should be retired since it has sold. If it is not, it will cause problems for winning bidders.

  • willywilly Posts: 273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I cannot register my coin so I will have to send a request PCGS to remove it from the old set.

    Anyone know the owner of this collection. Did they pass away or are they just selling it?

    Lots of times when the coins are not removed it is because the owner is not able to.

  • DeplorableDanDeplorableDan Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @golden said:
    The Golbrecht Raisinet Collection should be retired since it has sold. If it is not, it will cause problems for winning bidders.

    I wanted that 1795 FH $1 soooo bad…. 58cac. I put in a substantial bid and thought I would take her home but boy was I wrong….

  • goldengolden Posts: 8,965 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That 1795 Dollar is out of sight beautiful. Has to be the nicest 58 that I have seen. Just wow!

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 22,571 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That’s awesome!

  • willywilly Posts: 273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree about the 1795 FH $1 I could have used a lot of coins from this set to upgrade my current set. The lack of funds sucks.

  • NicNic Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2024 12:24PM

    @willy said:
    Picked this one for my PCGS Set. Down to 8 very tough coins at this point. Will probably come up 3- 4 coins short on this set unless I win the lottery.

    Island City Circulation Type Set. Ranked # 5 and going no higher unless D.L Hansen crosses all his coins to CACG or others retire their sets.

    Willy

    Great coin!

    Single year of issue type. First year of issue type. Rare without a bad planchet. Perhaps the toughest issue to find nice including gold. Congratulations!

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @willy said:
    @golden I paid up for the coin but was told that it looked good for the grade and the surfaces were nice. Also it was CAC which is a plus for me on the early copper. I have been told I am stupid for paying up for CAC coins but I am okay with people thinking that. I will probably die with these coins in my possession so the family will take any losses or profits from buying the CAC coins.

    That coin is VERY nice for the grade, do you/others think it was net graded because of the break? So far I've decided to skip the type, but who knows. Otherwise, apart from gold I'm down to what I consider the "big 4". It's hard for me to commit serious funds to coins, but then I'm not getting any younger.

  • willywilly Posts: 273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS VF20 CAC

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Love it, absolutely.
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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,493 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2024 2:27PM

    @willy said:
    I cannot register my coin so I will have to send a request PCGS to remove it from the old set.

    Anyone know the owner of this collection. Did they pass away or are they just selling it?

    Lots of times when the coins are not removed it is because the owner is not able to.

    I have heard that the consignor is alive.

    Edited to add consignor's CU Forum name but he's not visited since 2010! @Gobrechts99Grapevine

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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,981 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Such an awesome coin!! Congrats.

  • TimNHTimNH Posts: 108 ✭✭✭

    Is there a 'definitive' list of what needs to go in a proper type set? Gobrecht Dollar? $4 Stella? Half disme ...

  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,347 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome coin! Congratulations on acquiring it!

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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TimNH said:
    Is there a 'definitive' list of what needs to go in a proper type set? Gobrecht Dollar? $4 Stella? Half disme ...

    "proper"? Hmm...define your own or you might look at the various registry permutations for scope of what is popular. :)

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  • RLSnapperRLSnapper Posts: 495 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What a beautiful 1793 cent. These don't get much nicer. Congrats!

  • habaracahabaraca Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭✭✭

    looks to me like you DID win that lottery.......

  • brianc1959brianc1959 Posts: 327 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @willy said:
    @BillJones I agree that nice coins can be tough to find. The last couple of coins in my Type set are tough the 1792 Half Disme is hardly ever found with nice appeal and when I do the price is crazy.

    1795 $10 Small Eagle I will find one
    1829-34 Capped Bust $5 will also find I like eventually and can afford

    1796 $2-1/2 Gold No Stars
    1808 $2-1/2 Gold
    1796-97 Half Dollar
    1907 $10 Gold Wire Edge and Rolled Edge probably skipping these 2.

    I'm slowly working on the same set, and you've certainly listed some of the "brick walls". But your set is already amazing. I was just admiring your 1826/5 $2.50, for instance.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,383 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @brianc1959 said:

    @willy said:
    @BillJones I agree that nice coins can be tough to find. The last couple of coins in my Type set are tough the 1792 Half Disme is hardly ever found with nice appeal and when I do the price is crazy.

    1795 $10 Small Eagle I will find one
    1829-34 Capped Bust $5 will also find I like eventually and can afford

    1796 $2-1/2 Gold No Stars
    1808 $2-1/2 Gold
    1796-97 Half Dollar
    1907 $10 Gold Wire Edge and Rolled Edge probably skipping these 2.

    I'm slowly working on the same set, and you've certainly listed some of the "brick walls". But your set is already amazing. I was just admiring your 1826/5 $2.50, for instance.

    You are looking at the wrong set. I have an 1825 $2.50 in NGC MS-61.

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  • rnkmyer1rnkmyer1 Posts: 330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Truly GREAT acquisition! Congratulations!

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  • NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,755 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice 1793 Liberty Cap, I like the split die.

    @Gobrechts99Grapevine excellent sets that have great descriptions of coins, it would be good to see them retired rather than disappear. I won a draped bust dime and have not sent a removal request yet.

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