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Did CAC Miss The Mark On This Coin? I Am Puzzled

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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,961 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2024 10:04AM

    Some coins simply do not look good in a photo as they are not photogenic. But when you view them in person the same coin “pops!”

    This might be the case?

    A Collectors Universe poster since 1997!
  • dhikewhitneydhikewhitney Posts: 437 ✭✭✭

    @Walkerlover said:

    @1madman said:
    Perhaps this post is beneficial in the fact that I’ve never bought a coin from Bob Paul Rare Coins, but isn’t this coin correctly valued ~$300? If his style is to sell unattractively toned coins at a 50%+ premium, it will save me time in the future by ignoring his inventory. Thank you walkerlover

    I left out the name of the seller to protect his privacy. Not necessary for the purpose of this discussion

    If only everyone had done the same; pity;
    I think this is a valid educational question but the answer is elusive because it depends on how much one values originality.
    For me, it is simply a function of price; ie., at what discount to list price would it be available; obviously it is not priced at my level now.

  • dhikewhitneydhikewhitney Posts: 437 ✭✭✭

    @DisneyFan said:
    I once had an opportunity to talk with Laura Sperber at a FUN show and showed her a CAC coin I owned which I had doubts about. I had expected her to say, "DRECK!" Instead, she said, "Nice coin." Surprised, I questioned her about the dark eye appeal. Her answer, "But, sometimes that's the way they come."

    Now Laura knows coins and is kind with advice.

  • lermishlermish Posts: 2,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DeplorableDan said:

    @MFeld said:

    Throw it back in the roll lol. It’s definitely not something I would want. Just put it on the bay starting at 99c and see what she rips for. BS walks, money talks. Which one are you? What’s entertaining (or revolting) on these threads how they go round and round with their various spiels.

    You might have a better chance of providing helpful or relevant feedback/suggestions if you'd take the time to read the posts to which you reply.

    The OP didn't give any indication that he owns the coin, so it's highly doubtful he could throw it back in the roll or list it for sale on eBay.

    For what reason would he need to read the posts in the thread? What if it’s more efficient for him to just spin the wheel and blurt something out?

    Post of the day. I loved CaptHenway's history of AU58/MS63/etc but this may have my vote for post of the month.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2024 7:27PM

    @DeplorableDan said:

    @MFeld said:

    Throw it back in the roll lol. It’s definitely not something I would want. Just put it on the bay starting at 99c and see what she rips for. BS walks, money talks. Which one are you? What’s entertaining (or revolting) on these threads how they go round and round with their various spiels.

    You might have a better chance of providing helpful or relevant feedback/suggestions if you'd take the time to read the posts to which you reply.

    The OP didn't give any indication that he owns the coin, so it's highly doubtful he could throw it back in the roll or list it for sale on eBay.

    For what reason would he need to read the posts in the thread? What if it’s more efficient for him to just spin the wheel and blurt something out?

    I wonder if he's EVER put anything on ebay at 99 cents and let her rip... it's cost plus 20 on the wheel.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2024 9:56PM

    Well take your BS go buy it then since u know so much rofl. Remember when u call people names here u lost. The down elevator over there btw if you took a wrong turn.

    The 56 Frank looks horrible. Just start it on the bay and some toner guys may bid her up. Do you think it went bad in holder to look that doggy?

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2024 10:04PM

    @lermish said:

    @Cougar1978 said:
    Throw it back in the roll lol. It’s definitely not something I would want. Just put it on the bay starting at 99c and see what she rips for. BS walks, money talks. Which one are you? What’s entertaining (or revolting) on these threads how they go round and round with their various spiels.

    Speaking of BS and being revolted and various spiels....it just never stops with you does it?

    Doesn’t seem stop w u either want to go round n round? I just can’t believe they stickered it. Perhaps it’s turned in the holder. Marty has a box full of slabs like that at his shop that went off the rails to tarnish city. Calls it the ugly roster.

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  • RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 934 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There should be a law enacted, one can just not accurately rely, judge, or grade off of photos, no ifs, ands or buts. A coin must be seen in hand for definitive interpretation, enough said

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 19, 2024 7:42AM

    @asheland said:
    Quite often I see coins with CAC stickers that don’t appeal to me in the slightest, I guess they’re technically high end for the grade, but it doesn’t always mean they’ll be pretty.

    Same here. On rare occasions not only can they be ugly, but IMO, they can be poorly graded with excessive chatter, pitting, and other environmental damage. It's rare, but every now and then a real turd gets stickered. Here are two from my CAC Hall of Shame. I cannot show the worst examples because people get upset.

    Ugly toning hiding hits, punches, and chatter all over and likely PVC damage. Is that a PVC booger on the "E" in LIBERTY? Dip this coin and it will immediately morph into a details coin.

    Stickered coin with corrosion and pitting on the high surfaces. Run!

    Not sure if it's the coin or the photography, but this coin needed an acetone pressure washing yesterday.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oreville said:

    Some coins simply do not look good in a photo as they are not photogenic. But when you view them in person the same coin “pops!”

    This might be the case?

    Here is an example of a coin that pops in hand. The closer you get, the better it looks.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,189 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Barberian said:

    @asheland said:
    Quite often I see coins with CAC stickers that don’t appeal to me in the slightest, I guess they’re technically high end for the grade, but it doesn’t always mean they’ll be pretty.

    Same here. On rare occasions not only can they be ugly, but IMO, they can be poorly graded with excessive chatter, pitting, and other environmental damage. It's rare, but every now and then a real turd gets stickered. Here are two from my CAC Hall of Shame. I cannot show the worst examples because people get upset.

    Ugly toning hiding hits, punches, and chatter all over and likely PVC damage. Is that a PVC booger on the "E" in LIBERTY? Dip this coin and it will immediately morph into a details coin.

    Stickered coin with corrosion and pitting on the high surfaces. Run!

    Not sure if it's the coin or the photography, but this coin needed an acetone pressure washing yesterday.

    I agree, that’s a real head scratcher!

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