1975D/1961 Cooper Penny
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Ok Guys I need you to bear with me on this one. We all know it’s unlikely that a coin with two date can be a mint error and we have looked at this coin before but it’s not just the dates that are doubled.
Keep an open mind and take a peek at this penny one more time for me and give me your feedback
It’s not just the dates. Look how there seems to be the exact same distance between the dates and his shirt. And if you rotate the coin to where the 1961 is in the right position there is a lighter distortion at the top of the coin where Lincoln’s head would be
The dates, the shirt and the head all line up twice. All you have to do is rotate the coin. I just can’t see how someone could have duplicated Lincoln’s shirt right next to the 1961 that exactly.
That’s why I ask you. You guys are the “Pros” at this
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You were told in your previous thread about this coin, how it ended up like that. Please explain how it could have occurred at the Mint.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Please show a photo of the reverse.
edited: Ah, now I see the reverse in the previous thread, linked in the next comment. Yes, it's odd to have such an effect on one side and not the other. And as in the previous thread, the effect of the supposed 1975-D strike on the 1961 obverse doesn't look realistic. As everyone else is saying, it's most likely a fake.
Collector of Liberty Seated Half Dimes, including die pairs and die states
Been there already....
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1074676/copper-penny-with-two-dates#latest
It's not a matter of "keeping an open mind", it's a matter of understanding the minting process.
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It doesn’t really matter how that cent was produced, the only thing that matters is that it
could not have happened when the coin was struck which eliminates that it is an error.
Since you don’t want to accept the views from the knowledgeable people on this forum from the two threads you posted. I suggest you spend the money and send it in to our host. Maybe you will believe them when it comes back in a body bag and you are out $50 or so.
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It might have been made by a cooper
Of course the second image is correct. But WHY ISN'T THERE A SECOND ROTATED IMAGE ON THE REVERSE?
The only way that can happen at the Mint is for a 1961 coin to get mixed with the planchets. But then the 1975 overstrike should have done 2 things that ARE NOT PRESENT ON YOUR COIN:
It is really you who needs to keep an open mind. You've decided it must be an error and no matter how many people explain that it can't be, and WHY it can't be, you cling to that belief.
With almost 2 years apart, same coin.
You has one of the most low level try to countrafeit coins.
If you look at the history of strikings you can see this PMD. 1961 date is Phill strike on bronze and 1975D is Denver strike on Brass Gilden. In any case this could be happened.
Just understand you has an Magician coin or the low level try for an counterfeit. I go more with Magician coin as per your photos.
Hope you understand and accept the reality. If not seng to our host (PCGS)
NEVER ARGUE WITH AN IDIOT.
FIRST THEY WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL.
THEN, THEY WILL BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE.
MARK TWAIN
But you don't listen to the "PROS"
I said it before and I will say it again. Fake error
Photoshop ?
What are the indicators ? On the other hand, nevermind that question.
The reverse is missing which could tell the tail.
Huh ?
@emeraldATV Sorry, I don't speak word salad and Google translate didn't help either.
I have an app for that.
Pop up books won't work, I tried.
Picture it might help ? Wait...an oldy but a goody.
Who said anything about Photoshop? I don't doubt it's a real picture of a fake error.
This has every appearance of a coin struck with false dies. Even if that isn't exactly what happened, there's no chance it's a real error. A picture of the reverse will not change that answer.
A similar example
Maybe it was meant to be post dated ?
Just checking.
Whooh !
Tough crowd.
@emeraldATV If you were even half as funny as you think you are you might be slightly entertaining.
Answerd
Ok I get it. Officially tossing this thing in the trash..
I owe each of you an apology. You had already checked this coin so I shouldn’t have wasted your time by submitting it twice. It won’t happen again-
Yeah, just don't post it a third time.
No need to throw it in the trash, you may be able to learn from it the more you develop an eye for coins.
And don't keep hoping it's something it's not.
There are collectors for counterfeit coins, someone would be happy to give you a couple of bucks for it.
50 Magician coins for 10$. what collector will be so ignorant to pay a few bucks???
NEVER ARGUE WITH AN IDIOT.
FIRST THEY WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL.
THEN, THEY WILL BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE.
MARK TWAIN
Most magicians coins are hollowed out or dual denomination like penny on one side and dime on the other.
I would love to hear how this is a magicians coin and how the trick works.
I fear I will not understand your explanation and I don't think Google translate will help either.
Look at the side of the coin
NEVER ARGUE WITH AN IDIOT.
FIRST THEY WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL.
THEN, THEY WILL BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE.
MARK TWAIN
It’s a cool coin, even if it’s not a ‘mint error’ doesn’t mean it isn’t a cool coin
if you would like to know absolutely, then definitely send it in to PCGS,
or you could just put it in some kind of holder and make a necklace out of it —
Maybe it’s your lucky coin ❤️