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I do not currently own any "DETAILS" coins. But I have in the past.
PCGS AU DETAILS Environmental Damage
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Check out my WORM, obverse is pretty much perfect but an odd patch of discoloration on the reverse brought it down into my zone. Hey if it's good enough for Sydney Martin it's good enough for me.
Virtually all 1855-C gold dollars are poorly produced. They have bad planchets and weak strikes. This one has been cleaned but is much better stuck and nicer looking than most.
Doesn't fit the criteria per se. I would replace it with a straight graded VF if I could find one.
This one is only available in a details holder.
What date and denomination?
https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-11E0OG/1800-draped-bust-half-dime-lm-5-unique-libekty-ag-details-holed-pcgs
They were a lot cheaper than straight grades. I don't plan on replacing them with straight graded coins either. They're some of my favorite coins.
VF30 bid is $14,400. No way could I afford one with a full horn and problem free. The look on this one isn’t as bad as other environmental damaged ones I’ve seen.
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Used to own this one - it was used by NGC for advertising when they started slabbing detail grade coins. Later crossed to PCGS details. Still a mid 6-figure coin.
There seems to only be about a dozen 1839 Small Letters halves in all grades. A few years ago I tried to get a VF sample, but wound up being an underbidder to a billionaire. I consider myself lucky to have found this details-graded sample about a year later:
I'm passionate about capped bust half dimes - assembling the best set by Logan-McCloskey marriages and remarriages. Although I prefer straight graded coins, here are a few Details R7's I am pleased to own.
One: 1835 LM-12, VG8 Details. Full disclosure: this one won't be mine after Dave Perkins' auction at 2024 FUN. Any interested parties can come talk to Dave and me (Sean) at Table 115 before the auction closes on Fri Jan 5 at 6pm EST and have a look at the coin.
Two: 1835 LM-12, XF Details. This is the upgrade that renders the above VG8 Deetz coin a candidate for sale.
Side note: Once upon a time I bid on (and lost) the only straight-graded 1835 LM-12 that I've seen come up. This coin, a PCGS VF35, went for what I call "moon money."
Three: 1832 LM-9.2, G4 Details. This is a remarriage of obverse 2 and reverse T. It's a remarriage because the pairing was interrupted by reverse T being paired with obverse 4 for LM-8.2, where the upper loop of the second S in STATES got filled. Reverse T was quite promiscuous. The sequence goes: 1832 LM-8.1 -> 1833 LM-2 -> 33 LM-3.1 -> 32 LM-9.1 -> 32 LM-8.2 -> 32 9.2 -> 33 3.2 -> 32 8.3 -> 33 3.3 -> 32 8.4 -> 33 3.4 -> 32 8.5 -> 33 3.5 (where it ends with a big cud that retires the die).
Full disclosure here too: since I got a straight-graded LM-9.2 (for moon money, and not pictured here), this one is also in Dave Perkins' 1/5/24 auction at FUN. PM me here or reach to Dave if you want a bid sheet and terms for that sale.
Moral of the story for me: the perfect is the enemy of the good, and I'm pleased to have touched these rarities even though they ain't "perfect."
New website: Groovycoins.com Capped Bust Half Dime registry set: Bikergeek CBHD LM Set
This one has given me nightmares for years. Some people think it could have been an S.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Looks like a D to me………damaged. 😏
A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.
A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
Ahh billionaires, always getting in the way of me buying some nice coins, the audacity..........
Mike
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It's not damaged, it's D for detailed. 🤣
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Was lucky to find it in the showcase of a dealer I'd bought from may times before..If not for rim ding and corrosion, I'd give it a VG-10. Now raw in Capitol holder with rest of set. A straight grade would have cost me 3X. Well out of my ballpark.
Did NGC offer details grading before PCGS? Helluva coin btw!
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Here are a couple of difficult die marriages that I own in compromised condition.
The first is obviously scratched. The second has been lightly cleaned and has been freed from its plastic coffin and is currently residing in a Kraft envelope. M hoping that someday it may be “market acceptable” in plastic. Until then I can enjoy it raw along with many of her sisters.
A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.
A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
That would give me nightmares as well. Two different coins? What am I seeing? Obverse looks like it has 4 holes and Reverse 5 holes. I guess I am really confused.
bob
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This one is not in a details holder, but it's obvious enough what a TPG would say were I to send it in. I suppose I could afford an unimpaired one now, but I definitely couldn't when I bought it fifteen years ago.
Good eye @AUandAG! This one is just a black spot on the coin. But yes, it does look like a hole from a distance. I probably should have taken the picture on a white piece of paper.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Maybe that 1909 is the key to a treasure map to a 1909 S-VDB...lollll!!! Now just need to find that map and use the holes as a GPS.
AU details damage - I actually could afford the coin but it is not a series I collect except for type. WTH for $250 I am a buyer.
This is my one and only. Affordability wasn't the issue at the time. Took a chance on an auction for this one in the raw, hoping it would straight grade but it didn't. Price for tuition.
However, in the aftermath it certainly is a keeper at more than 2x less the cost of a straight grade for equal detail and eye appeal.
In hand it's spectacular IMO and the TV, in this case, doesn't do it justice.
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My current Registry sets:
✓ Everyman Mint State Carson City Morgan Dollars (1878 – 1893)
✓ Everyman Mint State Lincoln Cents (1909 – 1958)
✓ Morgan Dollar GSA Hoard (1878 – 1891)
Just this one for me
Mr_Spud
This O.101, ten known, completed my 1795 half dollar die marriage set O.101 to O.131. I could have bought a graded one possibly if I was a lucky bidder after waiting a few years for a chance, but I kinda like this one at a tenth of the cost of graded, it has a story to tell
I have never been a details coin guy, but after a recent personal experience I am changing my philosophy. Today I put a bid on a detail coin. (nothing super rare) but I feel good about it. James
AU Details, Environmental Damage:
UNC Details, Cleaned:
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VF Details, Altered Surfaces:
Sean Reynolds
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A 55DDO clip! Damn!! That is sweetness!! 👍
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This 1873-CC Trade Dollar is the only chopmarked example with UNC detail that has come to light, but shows some unfortunate hairlines on the obverse that will always keep it out of a straight grade holder. If it was missing even one of the two condition issues (chop/cleaning), it would be well out of my price range, but together it's a one-two punch to the value.
I purchased an 1874-cc seated dime in an Ana's xf details net f-12 holder a year ago from brian greer.no way I could afford a no problem xf-45 example
I grade it MS63, with chopmarks. Sans chopmarks...probably in the top 3 out there.
I'm fond of this 1873-CC Trade $, FS-301 MPD. I bought it as PCGS AU details cleaned because: I could afford it, CC, no chop marks, and liked the appearance despite the cleaning. Then identified it as a FS-301 once I owned it and sent it back in for attribution.
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Pretty killer. Wouldn't be surprising if this is the nicest chopped Seated Half, bar none; crazy that such a nicely preserved example exists for such a rare date.
For my Dansco 7070, I didn’t want to crack out a straight graded example, this one has a nice strike and smooth planchet.
Okay, will you guys tell me what's so funny? I'm sitting here crying and you're laughing. 😉
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That’s a heck of a lot of eye appeal for a details coin. I’d be a buyer.
Great coin! Really good example of a case where a "problem" coin makes a lot of sense, IMO.
Can't speak for anybody else; for me it's just the "Might there have been an S there? Or will we never know?" nature of this coin's particular problem. I assume that somebody around here has knowledge of die marker traits sufficient to determine whether this is the money coin or not -- maybe yourself included -- and I'm certainly not meaning to suggest that I'm laughing at anybody.
I think most of the die markers are associated with the S. Here it says the center bar on the B tilted up is a genuine 09-S-VDB. I would say mine is tilted up.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
@CaptHenway - Would the center bar on the B tilted up be enough to attribute the coin as a genuine S-VDB?
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )