Dramatic lamination on 1882-S Morgan?
Picked this Morgan up at a random estate sale. I didn't have my loupe me (Christmas shopping trip and just happened to see a sign, lol). It looked like a lamination and a big one to boot, so I bought it ($27.50). I wanted to get others thoughts on the lamination... truly lamination issue? And it seems like a large one? I haven't seen a lamination that big on a Morgan, so that is what made me question things -- just a casual Morgan collector.
(hope these images work out right, cheap Amazon microscope)
Overall (iPhone pix)
Closer views...
Date has some doubling it appears as well, might be MD.
Reverse has a few spots that look odd, but I'm wonder if it's more MD. STATES and IGWT has some clear MD, but the left wreath looks strange with some wavy MD to the left of the leaves?
MM for reference. Here are what looks like minor lamination in several places on the coin, like under LL on Dollar here.
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Looks more like damage to me, but wait for one of the error experts to weigh in.
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That’s what I thought at first too. After seeing it in better light, I wasn’t sure how the damage would miss that star, the chin isn’t deformed, and there’s still lots of detail in the hair.
Under magnification there’s also a few “retained” pieces like this.
Enough interesting things to lead me to roll the dice on a conversation piece. :-)
I think it's a strike-through of something very thin, maybe grease, more than a lamination.
Well worth the $27.50 !
I am not an error type so No expert opinion here. My Guess is that it would be called a slag inclusion. Here is some information on them and the similar lamination which is described as a piece that fell out due to impurities.
From the resources thread and error ref .com the slag inclusion:
https://www.error-ref.com/alloy-errors-slag-inclusions-3/
And the lamination (loss after strike and before which has no photos)
https://www.error-ref.com/lamination-loss-after-strike/
https://www.error-ref.com/lamination-error-loss-before-strke/
A quick search of Heritage found these two:
https://coins.ha.com/itm/errors/1941-50c-walking-liberty-half-dollar-slag-inclusion-obverse-at-10-o-clock-ms63-pcgs/a/60151-91503.s
https://coins.ha.com/itm/errors/1898-1-morgan-dollar-slag-inclusion-obverse-cleaned-pcgs-genuine-unc-details/a/60301-50274.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515
A coin world article and there are more pictures but need to scroll across for each. It has that cent again in the other pictures. It describes some of the foreign material found in the peace $. The cent they found none but could have been in the lamination that fell out maybe.
https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/peace-dollar-coin-world-numismatics-coin-collecting-lamination-contamination-solder.html
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There might be something with the slag thing. It’s hard to tell in the images I posted, but along the lower line on the neck, there is rust coloring (image below). It’s only right up against that edge though. I thought it might just be dirt caught in it. Haven’t had a chance to soak in distilled water yet.
Wow. That was one massive slag streak!