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BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭✭✭


My unlettered edge capped bust half dollar, ex: Dosier, Hilgard, Logan.

Likely the second finest unlettered edge CBH of no more than a dozen known and possibly the earliest date.

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know. Something is happening here. Die crack, struck thru, some kind of lamination...I don't know!

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Okay, thanks @BustDMs! 👍

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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's pretty cool! @BustDMs

    Not as major as a complete missing edge lettering, but this "Planchet Crack" (as it's labeled) is kind of cool. I'm not sure it's really a planchet crack so much as a small incomplete area of the planchet, but it probably would have made a good 14-gauge wire stripper. :p




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  • ByersByers Posts: 1,406 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 10, 2023 5:12PM

    Milt Cohen had a 15% off center reduced size.

    I am not aware of one that is more O/C on the large size.

    https://minterrornews.com/features-11-14-06-milt_cohen_collection.html

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  • ByersByers Posts: 1,406 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My large size was just 5% off center but on a very rare over-date and in gem condition, selling in the 25k range.

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  • OKbustchaserOKbustchaser Posts: 5,431 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Double flip over edge lettering. ex Russ Logan, ex Stewart Witham



    Sorry, no edge pics as I have never been able to make the "flashlight trick" work.

    Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BustDMs said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    I don't know. Something is happening here. Die crack, struck thru, some kind of lamination...I don't know!

    That is a well known die crack for the marriage.

    You say it's a well known die crack. I'm hoping someone else posts one.

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  • MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭✭

    Yes, they are pretty common, but one of my favorites. I have several in grades up to EF.

    Derek

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  • @scubafuel said:
    This is (I think) the largest offcenter large size bust quarter known.

    Is that ex. Cohen? B-3?

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Moldnut said:
    Yes, they are pretty common, but one of my favorites. I have several in grades up to EF.

    OUTSTANDING!! Thank you very much for that! 👍

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  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Byers Your 1818/5 is very nice! So rare to see gem bust quarters to begin with, let alone with major errors. It’s interesting that there’s a small group of that offcenter in various grades. Maybe it was a misalignment issue.

    @Bustquarterhound yes this is ex-Cohen. He had such an amazing collection.

    @jacrispies Great set of bust half errors! You have a good eye for the dentil tracks.

  • jacrispiesjacrispies Posts: 671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bikergeek That's cool! Another proof that these dimes were struck with a collar and not run through the Castaing Machine. I believe the most accurate term for your example would be "partial collar." Were you the one who discovered the error or was it purchased as described?

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jacrispies - Your calling it a Partially Detached Lamination. Could this also have been a old rim burr?

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  • jacrispiesjacrispies Posts: 671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR Not a rim burr. This particular coin's defect is the result of planchet impurities. As far as I know, rim burrs have nothing to do with impurities. I suppose both partial lams and rim burrs visually can appear similar, having an arm of metal detached from the surface of the coin.

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    👍 👍

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  • BikergeekBikergeek Posts: 179 ✭✭✭✭

    @jacrispies said:
    @Bikergeek That's cool! Another proof that these dimes were struck with a collar and not run through the Castaing Machine. I believe the most accurate term for your example would be "partial collar." Were you the one who discovered the error or was it purchased as described?

    At the auction site I bought it from it didn't have much of a description. I was thinking broadstruck. It didn't have any photos of the rims. I was drawn to it because it was a marriage I needed, and I figured I could go a little strong on bidding cuz of the error. Someone else was apparently a fan of the error, because my underbidder pushed me higher than I'd expected.

    Later, I took the detailed pics and got some pros to describe the error to me.

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  • USMarine6USMarine6 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great thread

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BustDMs said:

    My unlettered edge capped bust half dollar, ex: Dosier, Hilgard, Logan.

    Likely the second finest unlettered edge CBH of no more than a dozen known and possibly the earliest date.

    What have you to contribute?

    This is a wonderful example of why they upset the rims of planchets, and what happens when they don't!

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  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Byers that is an amazing double struck bust dollar. Most times there is hardly any underlying detail remaining.

    Have you handled any major offcenter bust dollars?

  • ByersByers Posts: 1,406 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks scubafuel!

    I handled a 1799 Bust Dollar 15% off-center in a PCGS AU 55 holder, but I can’t find it in my archives. I will try to locate images…

    https://mikebyers.com/rarecoins-archives.html

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  • jacrispiesjacrispies Posts: 671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BustDMs I think you have the wrong reverse photo for the misaligned 1826. That crack is sign of the 1810 O-108 reverse!

    "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord" Romans 6:23. Young fellow suffering from Bust Half fever.

  • jacrispiesjacrispies Posts: 671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Calling @habaraca to post some neat errors!

    "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord" Romans 6:23. Young fellow suffering from Bust Half fever.

  • OKbustchaserOKbustchaser Posts: 5,431 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jacrispies said:
    @BustDMs I think you have the wrong reverse photo for the misaligned 1826. That crack is sign of the 1810 O-108 reverse!

    A bust boo-boo :wink: )

    Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Calling @1TwoBits this seems like your type of thread also…

  • BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jacrispies said:
    @BustDMs I think you have the wrong reverse photo for the misaligned 1826. That crack is sign of the 1810 O-108 reverse!

    So it is. The photos were side by side in my album.

    Great sleuthing!

    Q: When does a collector become a numismatist?



    A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.



    A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are there any errors known for the 1796 Quarter Dollar? The only one I have ever seen was a small lamination in the right obverse field.

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  • ByersByers Posts: 1,406 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is a 1796 Quarter Dollar slightly double struck, rotated in the collar. It was in good or very good condition. Either Milt Cohen or Natalie Halperin showed it to me, I think around 1980 ish.

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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:
    I don't know. Something is happening here. Die crack, struck thru, some kind of lamination...I don't know!

    Here's the one in my 7070...


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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh man @lkenefic, that is beautiful! Thanks for posting that! What a great example! And you broke her out for your 7070. You're my kinda guy. Thanks!

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  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1TwoBits great errors! bust half dime errors seem very tough. I haven’t been able to find an image of an offcenter bust half dime (I did see a draped bust one though)

  • carabonnaircarabonnair Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I might have a minor error somewhere, but don't forget the archive of Henry Hilgard's collection.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Byers said:
    There is a 1796 Quarter Dollar slightly double struck, rotated in the collar. It was in good or very good condition. Either Milt Cohen or Natalie Halperin showed it to me, I think around 1980 ish.

    Could be the only error for the type.

    Has anybody ever done a specific error, such as off center or clip, by type? Could be tough.

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  • BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭✭✭



    Here is the correct pairing of photos for the 1810.

    Q: When does a collector become a numismatist?



    A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.



    A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
  • ThreeCentSilverFLThreeCentSilverFL Posts: 1,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here’s my 1837 in an old ANACS holder with a planchet flaw.

  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sean, that incomplete clip is really neat.

  • jacrispiesjacrispies Posts: 671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BustDMs That is a SWEET off center double strike. Particularly because it has both obverse and reverse detail. Does it have a set of dentil tracks on either side? I am curious how that particular coin reacted with the metal movement during the first strike.

    "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord" Romans 6:23. Young fellow suffering from Bust Half fever.

  • Pnies20Pnies20 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BustDMs said:

    Just took photos of this today.

    now THAT is sweet!

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  • BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jacrispies said:
    @BustDMs That is a SWEET off center double strike. Particularly because it has both obverse and reverse detail. Does it have a set of dentil tracks on either side? I am curious how that particular coin reacted with the metal movement during the first strike.


    Here are more complete images. As you can see NO dentil tracks…..humm.

    Q: When does a collector become a numismatist?



    A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.



    A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.

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